Speaker upgrade suggestions.

[Tessie]

Hello,

I would like to upgrade my wharefedale Diamond 2.1 speakers.
Can you guys recommend some good speakers for me but the depth of the speakers can not be more then 11 inch because of my dekstop setup. Also a speaker with a 6" woofer would be nice upgrade.

Here is my small list for now:

• Ascend Acoustics SIERRA-LX PAIR
• Revel M16
• Focal Vestia 1
• Neat Petite Classic ( So expensive! )

Current music system: PC -> S/PDIF -> NAD M10 V3 -> Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 -> SVS SB-1000 PRO
Thanks.

Edit: Added a video of my desk setup.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AuOMuC6d50

 

[daytona600]

LS3/5a
Elipson Planets
Heco Celan Revolution 3
Magnat Signature Edelstein
Technics SB-C600
GoldenEar BRX
ProJect Speaker Box S2
Usher Audio SD-500
MonAcoustic SuperMon Mini
NEAT Acoustics Ministra
Falcon Acoustics M10

 

[nopiano]

Neat Iota are tiny and super, but you need a good amp.

 

[Fandango Andy]

Hello,

I would like to upgrade my wharefedale Diamond 2.1 speakers.
Can you guys recommend some good speakers for me but the depth of the speakers can not be more then 11 inch because of my dekstop setup also a 6" woofer would be nice upgrade.

Here is my small list for now:

• DynAudio Evoke 10
• Focal Vestia 1
• Neat Petite Classic (these are very expensive)

Thanks.

If you are that tight for space you either need speakers intended for confined spaces. Or, you accept the sound will be compromised and just go for the best compromise.

Whats your budget?

 

[Tessie]

If you are that tight for space you either need speakers intended for confined spaces. Or, you accept the sound will be compromised and just go for the best compromise.

Whats your budget?

A budget for an upgrade from the wharfedales would be between 1000€ and 2000€ for the pair
Depth of the box max 11 inch or 27 cm.

The Neat Petite Classic, Revel M16 and the Focal Vestia 1 speakers would fit nice on my desk and have a 6" woofer.

 

[Juzzie Wuzzie]

Neat Iota are tiny and super, but you need a good amp.

I had a pair of these, sold them ... and regretted it. Now trawl EB looking to buy a pair.

 

[nopiano]

A budget for an upgrade from the wharfedales would be between 1000€ and 2000€ for the pair
Depth of the box max 11 inch or 27 cm.

The Neat Petite Classic, Revel M16 and the Focal Vestia 1 speakers would fit nice on my desk and have a 6" woofer.

I’ve owned the Revel M16 Concerta 2 and they are far too big for any desk I’ve ever seen. They needed plenty of room too - mine were on stands well into the room.

 

[Al ears]

I’ve owned the Revel M16 Concerta 2 and they are far too big for any desk I’ve ever seen. They needed plenty of room too - mine were on stands well into the room.

Most of the speakers listed might fit on a desk but obviously aren't going to perform their best in that location so my advice to OP is buy the cheapest....

 

[Fandango Andy]

A budget for an upgrade from the wharfedales would be between 1000€ and 2000€ for the pair
Depth of the box max 11 inch or 27 cm.

The Neat Petite Classic, Revel M16 and the Focal Vestia 1 speakers would fit nice on my desk and have a 6" woofer.

If they are going to be on a desk with limited space around them you aren't going to get the best sound. There is no definitive answer two the best compromise, but there are two schools of thought that make sense.
1. Buy something relatively inexpensive as it is never going to sound great. If front ported you will reduce a lot of the issues.
2. Buy something designed for more confined spaces. The Epos ES-7N has a switch to change the midrange and treble depending on if they are standouted or closer to walls. Or the Rogers Ls3/5a. They are the best BBC monitors within your suggested budget.

 

[Fandango Andy]

I’ve owned the Revel M16 Concerta 2 and they are far too big for any desk I’ve ever seen. They needed plenty of room too - mine were on stands well into the room.

You make the most important point. It isn't the size of the speakers it's the amount of space they need around them. I have a pair of Mission 701 on a desk, they are quite large at 450 x 215 x 300mm but are ridiculously forgiving and don't mind being close to a wall.

On the other hand my Tannoy's are tiny by comparison but need to be at least 400mm from the wall.

 

[gasolin]

Dali Menuet or Menuet se

Not the most loud speaker but sound quality should be very good, not expensive

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[daytona600]

Passive BBC LS3/5A grand father of all near field small desktop monitors for decades
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[Tessie]

Added a picture of my setup.
So all you guy's are saying just keep the wharefedales?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AuOMuC6d50

 

[RoA]

You do not have much space on your desk. Options will be limited to tiny speakers unless you can re-arrange things. I had a pair of Quad 11 Classics which sounded wonderful very close/near and mid field but whether or not that would be an upgrade over what you have, no idea.

The usual suspects of LS3 5/A and Harbeth PS3's have been mentioned. How well they would match with your NAD ... again, no idea.

 

[daytona600]

Run out of desk space Elipson Planet , Desk , Floor , Ceiling , Wall , in-wall mounting kits

https://www.avforums.com/reviews/elipson-planet-gold-edition-standmount-speaker-review.22006/

 

[Tessie]

I think i found some good speakers and they are not bigger then my Wharefedales.

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[Al ears]

I think i found some good speakers and they are not bigger then my Wharefedales.
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SIERRA-2EX V2 PAIR

Our New Benchmark Bookshelf Ribbon Speaker New Klippel NFS optimized version! Using high resolution 360-degree measurements generated by our Klippel NFS, we developed a new method of integrating our Sierra-2 RAAL ribbon with our EX woofer, greatly improving directivity and providing a more...

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Our Latest And Greatest Bookshelf Monitor Class-leading bass extension, massive dynamics and midbass punch, high power handling, exceptionally wide and linear dispersion combined with some of the best measurements in the industry, our new LX is truly something quite unique and special. This is...

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Never heard of them.

 

[Noddy]

Hello,

I would like to upgrade my wharefedale Diamond 2.1 speakers.
Can you guys recommend some good speakers for me but the depth of the speakers can not be more then 11 inch because of my dekstop setup also a 6" woofer would be nice upgrade.

Here is my small list for now:

• DynAudio Evoke 10
• Revel M16
• Focal Vestia 1
• Neat Petite Classic ( So expensive! )

Thanks.

Edit: Added a video of my desk setup.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AuOMuC6d50

Studio monitors are made for near field listening, including Genelec and Neumann but they’re often not cheap. Many suggestions here are costly and as they say, maybe not good up against a wall for close listening. And placing speakers directly on a desk is usually bad news.

Another option is decent headphones. The Cambridge Audio P100 are very good, but many others are available.

Your Diamond 12.1 test well:

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This is a review and detailed measurements of the Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 bookshelf speaker. It was kindly purchased by a member and drop shipped to me. It costs US $399 for a pair. The look and feel of the 12.1 is definitely above the budget category: The back is rather pedestrian but...

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The problem with speakers is the wide variation in sound quality and voicing.

Do you like the sound you currently get? If not, why not? I’d be tempted to put them on some cork place mats, see if that helps, but just stick with them, or get headphones.

 

[matthewpianist]

What are you trying to improve in the sound you are getting?

 

[gasolin]

Added a picture of my setup.
So all you guy's are saying just keep the wharefedales?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AuOMuC6d50

Pretty expensive amp relative to the front speakers

Move the pc to avoid any unnecessary reflection from it

Mabye hang them above the monitor angled down

 

[matthewpianist]

Your NAD has subwoofer outputs. If it's more bass depth you want (which I'm assuming given your request for larger drivers), I strongly suggest you invest in a subwoofer rather than trying to squeeze larger speakers into that space.

 

[Amormusic]

These are tiny, sound absolutely fantastic, and are amazingly well finished. Just 9 inches tall. Will fill a room with a wall of sound. Also surprising bass as they have a passive radiator on the back and are designed for wall reinforcement.

I've heard a pair twice now and was gobsmacked on both occasions. I will be buying a set of these for my office. Mine is a very similar setup to you OP.

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[gasolin]

Your NAD has subwoofer outputs. If it's more bass depth you want (which I'm assuming given your request for larger drivers), I strongly suggest you invest in a subwoofer rather than trying to squeeze larger speakers into that space.

Not to be rude but dit you watch and listen to the video ???

Did you read his specs ?

NAD M10 V3 -> Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 -> SVS SB-1000 PRO

 

[matthewpianist]

Not to be rude but dit you watch and listen to the video ???

Did you read his specs ?

NAD M10 V3 -> Wharfedale Diamond 12.1 -> SVS SB-1000 PRO

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Missed that. In which case what does the OP hope to achieve by squeezing unsuitable speakers into such a tight space. Perhaps the integration of the sub needs further work instead.

 

[gasolin]

I guess he wants hifi speakers and don't want to mount them above the monitors angled down

If you have heard the whole video you would have heard deep punchy bass

squeezing unsuitable speakers into such a tight space ?????

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