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Sonos Amp to drive B&W 607

Precision

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Will Sonos Amp have power enough to drive a pair of B&W 607, which have only 84 dB sensitivity?

Or would e.g. Marantz NR1200 be a better choice (in combination with a Sonos Port to access the streaming functions).

I have recently sold my Sonos Sub and Sonos Beam (but keep 2 Sonos One for the kitchen) and want to upgrade to better sound quality, but still use the Sonos app for easy streaming of ex Spotify. Will also supplement with a smaller sub in the long run, will mainly play TV/Apple TV sound and stream Spotify in a room of about 30 sqm.
 

millennia_one

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Think you have to ask your self why you moved away from the beam and subwoofer and what you didn't like about it.

You're largely going to get the same sound with Sonos amp, which to answer your question will make sound come out those speakers. How good it will be i don't know, but to my ears, the beam actually sounded pretty good to me and gives a very enjoyable sound.

But if your looking at the Marantz NR1200 why would you need the Sonos port? The Marantz NR1200 can do everything the Sonos can and a little more. And its all app-controlled

You also have the cyrus one cast good right ups

If you wanted to go a little more upmarket there's the naim uniti atom (very good app integration) and Cambridge audio offer some options and i believe Arcam have an option now.

If you wanted to go a little more traditional a rotel would be good with a cheap DAC like a Schitt modi and if you can still get hold of one a Chromecast audio.

All these options would allow you to get rid of the Sonos all together out of the chain. And arguably work better, they would certainly have better sound.
 

Precision

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Thanks for your reply millennia_one and sorry for my radio silence until now. In the meantime have made some changes which I am very happy with.

The Sonos app is something that our family is used to, which works very well for our needs and which gives us both simplicity and flexibility in the home. Therefore, it was a basic requirement to keep it as a "hub" in our home. But I had more to wish for from both Sonos Sub and Sonos Beam, which made me look for a hybrid solution between partly Sonos and partly HiFi. And I found a perfect combo, for me/us at least :)

But first a little about the Sonos Sub / Beam ...

Sonos Sub
is an excellent sub for movies where it gave enough punch for effects, explosions and thunder. It could easily make the interior shake. But for music, I often experienced it as mushy, indistinct and slow. In addition, it was easy to locate its location in the room.

Sonos Beam is also an excellent product that worked well for movies and daily TV watching where voices performed particularly well. But, again, I was not happy with it when it came to music. It could, like the Sub, fill a room of about 30sqm quite well, but I mainly lacked clarity in the upper registers, it gave no stereo separation and it had to struggle at slightly higher volumes, where the sound was experienced as quite mushy and confined.

For these reasons, I got rid of both Sonos Sub and Sonos Beam and have now replaced them with the following systems:

+ Sonos Amp
+ Bowers & Wilkins 607
+ Dali E-9F sub
+ (1 pair of Sonos One, kept from my previous setup)

How does this sound then?
First, I can answer my own question if Sonos Amp has enough power to drive the 607s... and yes it can, there are no problems, it works great and sounds very good! The B&W 607 standmounters are the smallest in B&Ws 600 series but deliver the clarity in the top notes, precision and warmth in the mid and lower regions and provides a real stereo perspective when listening to music.

Sonos Amp allows me to stay in their (according to me) excellent ecosystem, get a clear and excellent TV sound (via HDMI-arc and Amp) to the 607s, and also supplement with a third-party sub that possesses completely other qualities than the Sonos Sub does.

The Dali sub sounds magical to both film and music. It is powerful, creates a deep, full-bodied, warm and distinct base that is in no way perceived as mushy regardless of sound level. The interesting thing is also that I now experience the same bass quality and level no matter where in the room I sit, which was not really the case with the Sonos Sub as in my opinion/room was more sensitive to the listening position.

Am I missing something?
I'm really happy with how it sounds, looks and feels when handling the system. I have full flexibility to control all functions via any handheld device in the home, no matter where you are in the house. I can easily choose to play either "real" stereo by turning off the surround speakers in the Sonos app, or quickly turn them on again and then get full surround sound for movies.

Of course it is possible to achieve even better stereo sound, but then you most often have to give up, among other things, the flexibility (and scalability) that I now have. Therefore, I chose not to proceed with, for example, the Marantz NR1200 (which I mentioned in my first post) or with other separate amplifiers. But thanks again for all the tips you gave millennia_one they were quite interesting and might be something I explore in the future.

:)
 
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millennia_one

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Thanks for your reply millennia_one and sorry for my radio silence until now. In the meantime have made some changes which I am very happy with.

The Sonos app is something that our family is used to, which works very well for our needs and which gives us both simplicity and flexibility in the home. Therefore, it was a basic requirement to keep it as a "hub" in our home. But I had more to wish for from both Sonos Sub and Sonos Beam, which made me look for a hybrid solution between partly Sonos and partly HiFi. And I found a perfect combo, for me/us at least :)

But first a little about the Sonos Sub / Beam ...

Sonos Sub
is an excellent sub for movies where it gave enough punch for effects, explosions and thunder. It could easily make the interior shake. But for music, I often experienced it as mushy, indistinct and slow. In addition, it was easy to locate its location in the room.

Sonos Beam is also an excellent product that worked well for movies and daily TV watching where voices performed particularly well. But, again, I was not happy with it when it came to music. It could, like the Sub, fill a room of about 30sqm quite well, but I mainly lacked clarity in the upper registers, it gave no stereo separation and it had to struggle at slightly higher volumes, where the sound was experienced as quite mushy and confined.

For these reasons, I got rid of both Sonos Sub and Sonos Beam and have now replaced them with the following systems:

+ Sonos Amp
+ Bowers & Wilkins 607
+ Dali E-9F sub
+ (1 pair of Sonos One, kept from my previous setup)

How does this sound then?
First, I can answer my own question if Sonos Amp has enough power to drive the 607s... and yes it can, there are no problems, it works great and sounds very good! The B&W 607 standmounters are the smallest in B&Ws 600 series but deliver the clarity in the top notes, precision and warmth in the mid and lower regions and provides a real stereo perspective when listening to music.

Sonos Amp allows me to stay in their (according to me) excellent ecosystem, get a clear and excellent TV sound (via HDMI-arc and Amp) to the 607s, and also supplement with a third-party sub that possesses completely other qualities than the Sonos Sub does.

The Dali sub sounds magical to both film and music. It is powerful, creates a deep, full-bodied, warm and distinct base that is in no way perceived as mushy regardless of sound level. The interesting thing is also that I now experience the same bass quality and level no matter where in the room I sit, which was not really the case with the Sonos Sub as in my opinion/room was more sensitive to the listening position.

Am I missing something?
I'm really happy with how it sounds, looks and feels when handling the system. I have full flexibility to control all functions via any handheld device in the home, no matter where you are in the house. I can easily choose to play either "real" stereo by turning off the surround speakers in the Sonos app, or quickly turn them on again and then get full surround sound for movies.

Of course it is possible to achieve even better stereo sound, but then you most often have to give up, among other things, the flexibility (and scalability) that I now have. Therefore, I chose not to proceed with, for example, the Marantz NR1200 (which I mentioned in my first post) or with other separate amplifiers. But thanks again for all the tips you gave millennia_one they were quite interesting and might be something I explore in the future.

:)
Glad you got something you enjoy that's all that matters! have fun and I'm sure it will last you many many years!
 
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