Room 101

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Well, acts like. And his lack of subtlety is upsetting to my general idiom.

'Lack of subtlety' is a masterpiece of understatement!

 

[Friesiansam]

Michael McIntyre is neither young or good looking…

He should be exiled to Tristan da Cunha, he would be well out of the way there...

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

The common cold. Time of posting should make clear why...

 

[Friesiansam]

The common cold. Time of posting should make clear why...

Compared to what has been grinding me down since late December, the common cold is fine. Like so many this Winter, I have had the very persistent cough and flu-like symptoms, that just goes on, and on, and on, and on...

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Compared to what has been grinding me down since late December, the common cold is fine. Like so many this Winter, I have had the very persistent cough and flu-like symptoms, that just goes on, and on, and on, and on...

Lots of it about - and it could just be me, but colds seem more like how you describe these days, rather than just a bit of a runny nose.

 

[JDL]

What are your pet hates? It could be anything from a taste, smell, lane hoggers on motorways... anything that really gets your back up.

I hate with a passion is text speak. When you have a face-to-face conversation with someone. For example:

You say to someone I lost a winning lottery ticket, and instead of them responding "oh my God, that's awful", they go OMG. This really turns a mild mannered individual like me into a raging bull.

One of Mrs. Ps,hate is the word "flavoursome" when referring to food or drink.

Wow...do people really say; ...."OMG"...
That's cringy as hell. I haven't come across it myself. If I did, I might be compelled to pretend not to know what it means. Press the point, for fun.

 

[JDL]

Is it any worse than TV? That was creating 'stinking thinking' long before the internet.

At the risk of being a killjoy, I'll suggest that we need to avoid politics - even though I suspect many of us might have strong antipathies towards a particular world leader at the moment!

Ha ha ha. Which one? Just joking.

 

[jjbomber]

Ha ha ha. Which one? Just joking.

One? All of them surely!

 

[Friesiansam]

Lots of it about - and it could just be me, but colds seem more like how you describe these days, rather than just a bit of a runny nose.

I usually deal with colds easily, they cause me little problem but, this is different.

 

[plastic penguin]

Wow...do people really say; ...."OMG"...
That's cringy as hell. I haven't come across it myself. If I did, I might be compelled to pretend not to know what it means. Press the point, for fun.

Yup. Mrs. P brother says it quite often. His head is firmly up his backside. Neither of us get on, he thinks I was born in a gutter and he's been pampered all his life. He wouldn't know a decent days work if it came up and bit him.

Anyhoo.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Yup. Mrs. P brother says it quite often. His head is firmly up his backside. Neither of us get on, he thinks I was born in a gutter and he's been pampered all his life. He wouldn't know a decent days work if it came up and bit him.

As the old saying goes, you can choose your friends...

Anyone who judges people based upon things that they cannot help is an idiot.

 

[plastic penguin]

As the old saying goes, you can choose your friends...

Anyone who judges people based upon things that they cannot help is an idiot.

Too true 👍

 

[JDL]

Yup. Mrs. P brother says it quite often. His head is firmly up his backside. Neither of us get on, he thinks I was born in a gutter and he's been pampered all his life. He wouldn't know a decent days work if it came up and bit him.

Anyhoo.

Oh dear. It's bloody depressing. I've no idea what it feels like to have been pampered one's whole life.
Back to the needless bleedin' acronyms or text speak..... that's a poor excuse.
I think it's kind of annoying even in messages.

 

[JDL]

One? All of them surely!

Yes. Nearly all for me. I'd better not say which ones I despise the most.

 

[Gray]

STANDING CHARGES FOR ENERGY.
When energy prices come down slightly in April, standing charges are increasing to around 91p per day.
So you pay more than you used to when you leave everything switched off.

AND Ofgem have decided to put £28 on all annual bills to cover debts to the energy companies - companies that have all recorded record profits - and whose bosses are paid millions.
(BG boss said his £4,000,000 salary is too much. Who wouldn't agree with that?).

Yes, there are other important things going on in the world but....the political party that gave a cast iron promise to scrap standing charges on energy, would be voted in at the next election wouldn't they?

 

[JDL]

STANDING CHARGES FOR ENERGY.
When energy prices come down slightly in April, standing charges are increasing to around 91p per day.
So you pay more than you used to when you leave everything switched off.

AND Ofgem have decided to put £28 on all annual bills to cover debts to the energy companies - companies that have all recorded record profits - and whose bosses are paid millions.
(BG boss said his £4,000,000 salary is too much. Who wouldn't agree with that?).

Yes, there are other important things going on in the world but....the political party that gave a cast iron promise to scrap standing charges on energy, would be voted in at the next election wouldn't they?

Yes I couldn't agree more. I'm getting the feeling, certainly in the last few years, that a lot of politicians aren't worried at all about fulfilling their promises. Furthermore, they couldn't care less, what any of the ordinary British public want or think at all. They seem indifferent to me.
Where I live in Wales lots of houses have been switched over to solar panels and heat source pumps as their only heating, including our house. We had no choice because our energy efficiency rating would have been too low and the house would have been illegal to rent out.
The new heating system doesn't work when the weather is cold. Luckily, we didn't allow them to remove our Rayburn and coal's still available.
Our friend and neighbour had a similar system fitted. They ripped out her fairly recently fitted oil fired system and her electricity bill is now about two to three times what it used to be.
An insulation inspector visited her house yesterday while I was there at my neighbours house. He told me, that when the weather's too cold for these heat source pumps to extract enough heat out of the air, they're struggling to get any radiators warm at all unless they're left running all the time.
Forgive the lengthy post. This implies then, that we've been lied to and scammed basically. Forced into having heating systems that aren't suitable, given our climate, because of the so called "climate crisis".
Those imposing all this will continue to have oil fired central heating in their mansions. They'll continue to use private jets to visit emergency climate conferences, cooking up more restrictions on our means to heat our houses and travel. They'll continue to use large engined luxury cars and immense ocean going vessels. You know how much diesel, large boats consume, I'm sure.
I can't help thinking now, that some of these champions and saviours of the world are dupes and others liars.
If this post is too overtly political or critical, then, I apologise, to readers and moderators.

 

[daveh75]

Where I live in Wales lots of houses have been switched over to solar panels and heat source pumps as their only heating, including our house. We had no choice because our energy efficiency rating would have been too low and the house would have been illegal to rent out.
The new heating system doesn't work when the weather is cold. Luckily, we didn't allow them to remove our Rayburn and coal's still available.
Our friend and neighbour had a similar system fitted. They ripped out her fairly recently fitted oil fired system and her electricity bill is now about two to three times what it used to be.
An insulation inspector visited her house yesterday while I was there at my neighbours house. He told me, that when the weather's too cold for these heat source pumps to extract enough heat out of the air, they're struggling to get any radiators warm at all unless they're left running all the time.

If the AHSP isn't heating your homes properly then it's a poorly designed system/installation. Probably either under spec, or more commonly the pipe work is the issue. Old 10mm microbore systems are totally inadequate for ASHP for example, they require 22mm circulation/feed pipes and 15mm radiator tails to operate properly.

As for the insulation inspector he is talking out of his hat!

ASHP are very popular in much colder climates than ours....

 

[JDL]

If the AHSP isn't heating your homes properly then it's a poorly designed system/installation. Probably either under spec, or more commonly the pipe work is the issue. Old 10mm microbore systems are totally inadequate for ASHP for example, they require 22mm circulation/feed pipes and 15mm radiator tails to operate properly.

As for the insulation inspector he is talking out of his hat!

ASHP are very popular in much colder climates than ours....

Do you have one?

 

[plastic penguin]

Oh dear. It's bloody depressing. I've no idea what it feels like to have been pampered one's whole life.
Back to the needless bleedin' acronyms or text speak..... that's a poor excuse.
I think it's kind of annoying even in messages.

Strange thing is he never attended private school, only drives a Citreon people carrier... his wife's family are very rich, his father-in-law worked oil. His house was largely paid for by his wife's dad... £800,000 the cost and nearly half has been paid for. I wonder if they would be still together if they weren't that rich?

Mrs. Ps mum isn't short of a Bob or two yet the only prezzie I've received, at Christmas, was a box of tea bags (in a metal tin).

 

[DougK1]

STANDING CHARGES FOR ENERGY.
When energy prices come down slightly in April, standing charges are increasing to around 91p per day.
So you pay more than you used to when you leave everything switched off.

AND Ofgem have decided to put £28 on all annual bills to cover debts to the energy companies - companies that have all recorded record profits - and whose bosses are paid millions.
(BG boss said his £4,000,000 salary is too much. Who wouldn't agree with that?).

Yes, there are other important things going on in the world but....the political party that gave a cast iron promise to scrap standing charges on energy, would be voted in at the next election wouldn't they?

Been watching standing charges creep-up over the last year. Came out of a fixed-rate last year and have done two tariff changes since, standing charge rates have changed as follows:
Fixed 1 - Elec 18p per day, Gas 14p per day = £116pa
Variable 1 - Elec 42p per day, Gas 27p per day = £251pa
Fixed 2 - Elec 51p per day, Gas 31p per day = £298pa
Ruddy rip-off!

 

[JDL]

If the AHSP isn't heating your homes properly then it's a poorly designed system/installation. Probably either under spec, or more commonly the pipe work is the issue. Old 10mm microbore systems are totally inadequate for ASHP for example, they require 22mm circulation/feed pipes and 15mm radiator tails to operate properly.

As for the insulation inspector he is talking out of his hat!

ASHP are very popular in much colder climates than ours....

I wonder if you have one. Remember please, with all due respect, it's helpful if one doesn't violate logic.
If air is cold, you cannot extract heat that is not there.
Air source heat pumps, unfortunately suffer from reduced efficiency as air temperature drops. The consequence of this, is that it becomes increasingly difficult to effectively extract heat from air that has no heat in it.
To overcome this, air source heat pumps include, a backup heating element to cope with drops in outside air temperature.
When the air source heat pump is forced to employ the backup heating element, the electricity used, reverses from so called efficiency to actual inefficiency. This is why the cost for users goes up, beyond the cost of using for example, oil. Especially since when we are generating electricity with our panels in the summer and autumn, we have no way to store that electricity for the winter, unless we buy enormously expensive, and environmentally unfriendly batteries. Furthermore, the suppliers prefer not to let you meter go backwards, in order that you may store it abstractly, so to speak.
My system was fitted beautifully well, by a very professional company with exactly the correct sized pipes.
However, when the temperature dropped, not even to freezing, the pump was on for six hours, the radiators didn't even manage to get anywhere near warm.
The 'argument from majority' is not a logically valid argument, as I'm sure most people can understand. We would need to know exactly why all these allegedly cold country people had air source heat pumps fitted. The fact remains though regardless. If heat isn't there, you cannot extract it.
I'll add, that the insulation inspector I conversed with, certainly wasn't talking "...out of his hat", he wasn't wearing one. He was talking out of his mouth and that is where the sound was coming from.
Moreover, he was quoting 'primary source' or first hand testimonies, expressed by users themselves. When studying history, as an example, 'primary source' information is as good as it gets, assuming of course that people aren't telling 'porkies'.
Therefore, I believe we can trust that actual users of air source heat pumps and associated heating systems, with 'first hand' experience of such pumps and heating systems, would have no real motivation not to tell it straight so to speak, whereas, politicians and so called experts, plied with cash and other motivating forces, certainly might well have reasons to stray from what is actually true.
Have one fitted. I'm sure your Wife will absolutely love it.

 

[JDL]

Strange thing is he never attended private school, only drives a Citreon people carrier... his wife's family are very rich, his father-in-law worked oil. His house was largely paid for by his wife's dad... £800,000 the cost and nearly half has been paid for. I wonder if they would be still together if they weren't that rich?

Mrs. Ps mum isn't short of a Bob or two yet the only prezzie I've received, at Christmas, was a box of tea bags (in a metal tin).

I think I'm beginning to understand. Money doesn't equal merit in my view. Posh accents aside, people with money can be cultured, intelligent and decent. Others - uncultivated, brash not particularly civil. Lacking generosity.
Odd ain't it.
When I put marquees up in the nineties, some rich people were very nice and couldn't do enough to try and ease the burden.
Others, would do things like sit at their garden tables, indulging in chilled drinks whilst watching us labouring in the sweltering heat, and not even offer us a cup of tea. It didn't matter.
We took our own gas bottle, portable gas ring, tea, coffee milk, sugar food. Nevertheless, the hours were long and the work had to be done even if it meant working from 8am until midnight, sometimes later.
All these things are an illustration of the metal of which people are forged, are they not?

 

[jjbomber]

STANDING CHARGES FOR ENERGY.
When energy prices come down slightly in April, standing charges are increasing to around 91p per day.
So you pay more than you used to when you leave everything switched off.

AND Ofgem have decided to put £28 on all annual bills to cover debts to the energy companies - companies that have all recorded record profits - and whose bosses are paid millions.
(BG boss said his £4,000,000 salary is too much. Who wouldn't agree with that?).

Yes, there are other important things going on in the world but....the political party that gave a cast iron promise to scrap standing charges on energy, would be voted in at the next election wouldn't they?

The maintenance costs for the pipes and power supply have to be covered, no matter how much or how little you use.
We will have Mr U-turn after the next election. Cast iron promises won't happen!

 

[DougK1]

The maintenance costs for the pipes and power supply have to be covered, no matter how much or how little you use.

And that's increased three-fold in the last two years has it?

 

[jjbomber]

And that's increased three-fold in the last two years has it?

No idea. Generally, the government force the companies to do loads of unneeded 'improvements' to the infrastructure. These costs have to be covered.
As an aside, I doubt that 5% of the UK public are on the cheapest tariff for their use, while phones and broadband would be less than that.