Problem with tonearm

GeorgePt

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Hi i have project debut carbon and my problem is, when i move the tonearm with my hands (with the cueing lever up!) In the middle of the platter starts to lowering and almost touch the platter..

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I dont think this is the problem.. in the edge of the platter is ok,when i move it inside goes down as you can see in the photos..
 
I'm using the latest version of Firefox browser to view this site but all I'm seeing is two greyed out no entry signs instead of photos.

*music2*
 
yes I can see the photos now, still not sure of a solution, have you checked that nothing is broken where the tonearm connects to its mounting on the base.

also does this problem affect playback, I do have a Project myself (different model) but I will check to see what happens.

*music2*
 
turntable is brand new so i dont think something is broken..
also platter is not full leveled,maybe this is the problem?
please check your pro-ject and tell me.. maybe is something normal..
 
The curing lever is exactly that, it allows you to cue over the outer edge of the record where you lower it.

It is not intended to cue over the middle of an album as its not long enough...... or am I missing something here?
 
Can't really tell much from the pictures as they're not detailed enough, but does the tonearm lift look straight and level in the raised position?
 
In some models the cueing lever only works for the start of the lp. If you wish to play the innergroove lift the tonearm and carefully and manually place on the track you want.

Also check your downforce, and anti-skate

For better advice please post photos from the tonearm-rest angle with a focus on the lever. A view from above straight down would work fine.
 
Another set for where and when the problem occurs please.

Also an upclose focusing on the lever and counter-weight, with the lid removed, the reflection doesn't help. 😛

Your downforce seems a bit light, the reccomended df is 17.5

This is a pretty neat tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLuOgA9i7AY start at the one minute marker.
 
here is a video with the problem.. or is it normal? im new to turntables so i dont really know..

as you can see in the end of the video tonearm lowered down near the spindle..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjarFnFUko
 
Not that you'd ever need that amount of travel but that does indeed look weird! I've just tested both my decks and neither of them manifest this problem, the lift should keep the arm level past the spindle until it reaches its physical stop at the end of its travel.

I can't be sure but it appears that the lifter arm support is bent or loose. You need to gun-sight down the arm as you move it across the platter paying particular attention to any downward movment in the lifter arm support. It should remain pefectly level with no vertical movement or sagging from start to finish.

Are you sure it's not falling off the support at the end of its travel?

Is everything set perfectly level, base, platter etc.?
 
i dont think i have a problem because this happens near the label so there are no grooves to damage..

tonearm starts to lose at this point.

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The cueing platform looks bent in your last picture. Could you take a photo of the whole thing from directly in front?
 
In order for the problem described to occur there must either be a sag downwards on the cueing platform or the arm or turntable not mounted level.
 
Freddy58 said:
Yet τo me, it looks like it's running down to the left, which would account for the problem.

i agree, i dont think to cause any trouble because it's near the label,right?
 
No it won't cause any problems as it is near the end of its travel, over the label area. But this shouldn't happen on a decent turntable, it should run straight and level across its entire arc.
 
also i have a digital stylus gauge but is not level as you can see is it normal? sorry for too many questions..

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GeorgePt said:
Freddy58 said:
Yet τo me, it looks like it's running down to the left, which would account for the problem.

i agree, i dont think to cause any trouble because it's near the label,right?

The cueing arm isn't designed to cue over the section of record with no grooves on it. It's normal. It will drop towards the end of the cue arm because your tonearm is round and tapered.
 

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