Question Pro-ject T1 BT Turntable

smbmetal · Jan 30, 2020

Hi,

I’m considering dipping my toe into the world of vinyl.

I need a turntable with Bluetooth connectivity and my research (and max budget) has pointed me in the direction of the above turntable.

It will be connected to a Denon AV 3600H amp with B&W 603 speakers.

Has anyone had any experience of the above turntable, or have alternative suggestions?

Al ears · Jan 31, 2020

Cannot for the life of me think why you'd want a Bluetooth turntable when the Denon has an inbuilt phono stage. Perhaps you could explain why if it is only to connect to the 3600H

smbmetal · Jan 31, 2020

Thanks for your reply.

The turntable will be located the other side of the room (~15 feet), a long way from the amp. Unfortunately it's not practical for me to hard wire it in.

My AV cabinet is full and I have a 65" TV stuck on the top of it, so there's no where for the deck to go, hence needing the bluetooth option.

I should add, I have huge OCD, so there is only ONE place for the deck to go haha. OCD and Hi-Fi doesn't go well together I find.

Al ears · Jan 31, 2020

Thanks for getting back to us.
In that case you will not find much better than the Pro-ject T1 for that money.

smbmetal · Jan 31, 2020

Thank you.

Out of interest do you know if there is a huge difference when transmitting Bluetooth compared to hard wiring? Is it night and day for example?

Al ears · Jan 31, 2020

Personally never used Bluetooth on a turntable but I'm a hardwire man.... ;-)
You'll have the opportunity to try it won't you.

smbmetal · Jan 31, 2020

I’ll probably just go and buy it.

I’ve seen the Pro-ject Essential III for about the same price. Not knowing a lot about turntables the reviews say this has a better cartridge etc. Ofroton 10?

The setting up of it though looks very difficult in my simple mind though! What’s with the swinging weight on a string thing?

Al ears · Feb 1, 2020

smbmetal said:
I’ll probably just go and buy it.

I’ve seen the Pro-ject Essential III for about the same price. Not knowing a lot about turntables the reviews say this has a better cartridge etc. Ofroton 10?

The setting up of it though looks very difficult in my simple mind though! What’s with the swinging weight on a string thing?

That's the anti-skate device...
The Essential doesn't have BT and has a cheaper cartridge.

smbmetal · Feb 1, 2020

Richer Sounds has the Essential III with BT?

Pro-Ject Essential III BT (Black)

Shop for Project Essential III BT Black Bluetooth Turntable with Richer Sounds for expert advice and lowest prices guaranteed

www.richersounds.com

Al ears · Feb 1, 2020

smbmetal said:
Richer Sounds has the Essential III with BT?

Pro-Ject Essential III BT (Black)

Shop for Project Essential III BT Black Bluetooth Turntable with Richer Sounds for expert advice and lowest prices guaranteed

www.richersounds.com

Interesting, never knew they did a BT equipped Essential.
Another for the OP to think about.

smbmetal · Feb 1, 2020

Would you say the Essential III is a better table?

Deleted member 108165 · Feb 1, 2020

smbmetal said:
Would you say the Essential III is a better table?

Yes. The Essential III will give you more scope to try different carts at a later date due to adjustable VTF and bias settings. The T1-BT has a fixed counter weight and bias so you are stuck with the OEM cart fitted. However, the Essential will take more time to set-up, the T1-BT will play almost straight out of the box.

Al ears · Feb 1, 2020

I'd agree with DougK. The Essential will be more flexible in the future and comes fitted with a slightly better cartridge from the off.

sonic1 · Feb 1, 2020

I just set up an Essential III for my brother in law, the cart is already fitted, 2 mins of a youtube video will help you set it up although a £8 tracking force gauge will help to get it spot on.

I am very impressed with it for the money.

Henley · Feb 18, 2020

DougK said:
Yes. The Essential III will give you more scope to try different carts at a later date due to adjustable VTF and bias settings. The T1-BT has a fixed counter weight and bias so you are stuck with the OEM cart fitted. However, the Essential will take more time to set-up, the T1-BT will play almost straight out of the box.

The essential doesn't have VTA adjustment, this only starts on the RPM series or above a Debut. Tracking weight can be adjusted on both but the counterweight is held in place by a grub screw on the T1.

Al ears · Feb 18, 2020

Henley said:
The essential doesn't have VTA adjustment, this only starts on the RPM series or above a Debut. Tracking weight can be adjusted on both but the counterweight is held in place by a grub screw on the T1.

I'd question whether anyone buying at this level is going to be concerned about VTA adjustment.....

smbmetal · Feb 18, 2020

Thanks all for the advice. I don’t know what VTA means (sorry)

I’ve seen the Essential III for £299 so I think I’ll buy that as it‘s £30 cheaper than the T1 and from reading the advice above is a better table. Plus I can buy a record or two with £30 saving over the T1.

Al ears · Feb 18, 2020

smbmetal said:
Thanks all for the advice. I don’t know what VTA means (sorry)

I’ve seen the Essential III for £299 so I think I’ll buy that as it‘s £30 cheaper than the T1 and from reading the advice above is a better table. Plus I can buy a record or two with £30 saving over the T1.

I rest my case.....

Deleted member 108165 · Feb 18, 2020

Henley said:
The essential doesn't have VTA adjustment, this only starts on the RPM series or above a Debut. Tracking weight can be adjusted on both but the counterweight is held in place by a grub screw on the T1.

Who mentioned anything about adjustable VTA? Tracking weight on the T1 will be rather difficult to adjust with only a grub screw available for fine tuning... Essential III is a far better option.

Deleted member 108165 · Feb 18, 2020

smbmetal said:
Thanks all for the advice. I don’t know what VTA means (sorry)

I’ve seen the Essential III for £299 so I think I’ll buy that as it‘s £30 cheaper than the T1 and from reading the advice above is a better table. Plus I can buy a record or two with £30 saving over the T1.

VTA = vertical tracking angle
VTF = vertical tracking force
Bias = anti-skate

You're on the right track with the Essential

smbmetal · Feb 19, 2020

Thanks.

I ordered the Essential III BT today in white. Just need a little Kallax from Ikea to keep my grand total of two records safe that I’ve just bought

Deleted member 108165 · Feb 19, 2020

smbmetal said:
Thanks.

I ordered the Essential III BT today in white. Just need a little Kallax from Ikea to keep my grand total of two records safe that I’ve just bought

It can be an expensive hobby if you're not careful. Enjoy

Al ears · Feb 20, 2020

DougK said:
It can be an expensive hobby if you're not careful. Enjoy

It can be an expensive hobby if you are careful....

smbmetal · Feb 21, 2020

All set up! The anti skate weight was fiddly.

Sounds good over Bluetooth to me. Can’t hard wire it so can’t compare sound quality.

Can‘t go too loud or I get a rather loud rumbling. Vibration I guess?

90db is loud enough for me though.

Sounds better with the lid shut for some reason.

Jimboo · Feb 21, 2020

Whoah! You have a picture of your set up?

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