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Ill be near(ish) your area in may Going to Corfu haha

Envy. I'm sure you'll have a brilliant time. Not too hot yet full sunny Mediterranean in May.

We had to change last min from spain becuase could not get an appointment with spanish embassy and this corfu place is much better.
Anyway was looking at map and saw your country haha
Anyway sorry to derail
Back to power chords making sweet music
 

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can you name the 7 studios please and provide links clearly saying they use mentioned cables. cheers

1. Skywalker sound use MIT: http://ww2.mitcables.com/pdf/perfect_vision_pressrelease_mit_skywalker.pdf

2. BOP Studios use Van Den Hul: http://www.soundonsound.com/music-business/bop-studios-story

3. Peter Gabriel Studios use Kimber Cables: The best I can do here is George 47 (Moderator) at the Wam: http://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/121538-xlr-cables-whats-worth-the-money-to-pay-for-cables/?page=2

4. Gateway Studios (Bob Ludwig) uses Transparent Cables: http://www.avhub.com.au/news/hi-fi/transparent-audio-in-gateway-studios-393952

5. Astoria (David Gilmore): http://www.russandrews.com/history/

6/7. Ocean Way and Grundman Mastering both use Cardas: http://www.cardas.com/insights_cable_resonance.php
 

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Andrewjvt said:
We had to change last min from spain becuase could not get an appointment with spanish embassy and this corfu place is much better. Anyway was looking at map and saw your country haha

Closest open water surface near me are two glacial lakes 8500ft asl, so I have low chances of swiming in May.

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Anyway sorry to derail Back to power chords making sweet music

And don't forget the musical solder.
 

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lpv said:
can you name the 7 studios please and provide links clearly saying they use mentioned cables. cheers

1. Skywalker sound  use MIT:  http://ww2.mitcables.com/pdf/perfect_vision_pressrelease_mit_skywalker.pdf

2. BOP Studios use Van Den Hul:  http://www.soundonsound.com/music-business/bop-studios-story

3. Peter Gabriel Studios use Kimber Cables: The best I can do here is George 47 (Moderator) at the Wam: http://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/121538-xlr-cables-whats-worth-the-money-to-pay-for-cables/?page=2

4. Gateway Studios (Bob Ludwig) uses Transparent Cables: http://www.avhub.com.au/news/hi-fi/transparent-audio-in-gateway-studios-393952

5. Astoria (David Gilmore): http://www.russandrews.com/history/

6/7. Ocean Way and Grundman Mastering both use Cardas:  http://www.cardas.com/insights_cable_resonance.php

 

I only found this quote in hifiwigam
In my opinion, there will be no difference at all. I have tried many. My Chord Anthems XLR, sound no better than QED 1, from 14 years ago. One was a few hundred pounds and the other £20. Ive tried, other brands too, Nordost and Kimber mainly . Its the electronics that make the difference. The cables are hyped up by reviewers who , in a blind test, would not be able to tell which is which. 

Can you copy the post as its hard to shift through it all
 

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CnoEvil said:
lpv said:
can you name the 7 studios please and provide links clearly saying they use mentioned cables. cheers

1. Skywalker sound use MIT: http://ww2.mitcables.com/pdf/perfect_vision_pressrelease_mit_skywalker.pdf

2. BOP Studios use Van Den Hul: http://www.soundonsound.com/music-business/bop-studios-story

3. Peter Gabriel Studios use Kimber Cables: The best I can do here is George 47 (Moderator) at the Wam: http://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/121538-xlr-cables-whats-worth-the-money-to-pay-for-cables/?page=2

4. Gateway Studios (Bob Ludwig) uses Transparent Cables: http://www.avhub.com.au/news/hi-fi/transparent-audio-in-gateway-studios-393952

5. Astoria (David Gilmore): http://www.russandrews.com/history/

6/7. Ocean Way and Grundman Mastering both use Cardas: http://www.cardas.com/insights_cable_resonance.php

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is that power cables?

If you are talking to me, then I have no idea....but I made that quite clear in the post you quoted. My post was in response to Andrewjvt, who seemed to be saying that Studios didn't use "Snake Oil" cables.
 

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I am amazed that anyone would hold up modern professional recording studios as any sort of authority on what to buy or what not to buy.

Just listen to the overcompressed / over-produced dross they've been producing for the last 20 years.

That should be enough to tell you that when it comes to high fidelity they either have no clue or no interest.

...And at the end of the day, who cares what anyone else says, thinks or does? Your hi-fi system is your own very personal and private property. If you want to try different cables: go ahead. If you think they're a waste of time and money then don't bother. Do whatever makes you happiest.
 

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CnoEvil said:
lpv said:
is that power cables?

If you are talking to me, then I have no idea....but I made that quite clear in the post you quoted. My post was in response to Andrewjvt, who seemed to be saying that Studios didn't use "Snake Oil" cables.

this is not first time people link something they have no idea about..

this thread is about power cables..

off topic?
 

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I only found this quote in hifiwigam In my opinion, there will be no difference at all. I have tried many. My Chord Anthems XLR, sound no better than QED 1, from 14 years ago. One was a few hundred pounds and the other £20. Ive tried, other brands too, Nordost and Kimber mainly . Its the electronics that make the difference. The cables are hyped up by reviewers who , in a blind test, would not be able to tell which is which.

Can you copy the post as its hard to shift through it all

My argument was not that cables make a difference, only that Studios do use them.

The post at the Wam is the 10th one down and says:

"Absolutely you would never get Wilson Audio using Transparent Audio cables and Nordost is not used in major speakers and Sonus Faber and heaven forbid that Elac designers use anything but thin cheap wire. A quick scan on the TA site reveals many professional studios use their cable and Real World Studios (Peter Gabriel's recording studio) and the David Gilmour Astoria recording studios on the Thames and"
ROY HALEELEW LIPNICKBOB LUDWIGSHAWN MURPHYPETER POLTUNRON SAINT GERMAINED TUTON
 

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Of these have been given the cables on the basis the cable company can boast that they supply such and such...a company for marketing purpose.

Show me a link where a professional opens his mouth and actually says 'power cables and such improve performance of his electronics.

Ir show me a speaker manufactuer say his speakers only perform well with expensive special cable

Do you really think professionals would waste money on placebo
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Of these have been given the cables on the basis the cable company can boast that they supply such and such...a company for marketing purpose.

Show me a link where a professional opens his mouth and actually says 'power cables and such improve performance of his electronics.

Ir show me a speaker manufactuer say his speakers only perform well with expensive special cable

Do you really think professionals would waste money on placebo

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html

Why would these guys put their professional integrity on the line for free cables? Of course they wouldn't.
 

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lindsayt said:
I am amazed that anyone would hold up modern professional recording studios as any sort of authority on what to buy or what not to buy.

Just listen to the overcompressed / over-produced dross they've been producing for the last 20 years.

That should be enough to tell you that when it comes to high fidelity they either have no clue or no interest.

 

...And at the end of the day, who cares what anyone else says, thinks or does? Your hi-fi system is your own very personal and private property. If you want to try different cables: go ahead. If you think they're a waste of time and money then don't bother. Do whatever makes you happiest.

People are comming on here with cambridge audio cx80 and monitor audio bronze speakers and being advised to spend £1000 on a power conditoner...
Now before anyine actually looks for cx 80 and bronze that is just an example
But its what happens.

Then when they have spent all that wasted money and come back for more advise they told to buy an av stand with a 5 star review for the next upgrade.
 

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I hope dakchi is half convinced as I am that power cables make a tremendous difference, especially after these authoritive revelations about studio professionals. LessLoss with a schuko plug is a must purchase now.

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I've got some armoured electricity cable outside it has lots of copper inside of it .

its yours for the bargain price of £10.000 and please believe me it makes a difference to your sound *yahoo* first person served *smile*

he is another out look on this topic if you spending large sums of money on fancy power cables were do you stop ? Do you take the lid of your amplifier and change all of the Wires inside do you take all of the wire from inside your speakers .

surely all the years of hifi and no one as come up with the evidence to prove that any cable changes or improves sound only as we all know does a job to carry a signal gives us sound .

I believe you can change sound a bit with speaker cable but not with power cables
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Of these have been given the cables on the basis the cable company can boast that they supply such and such...a company for marketing purpose.

Show me a link where a professional opens his mouth and actually says 'power cables and such improve performance of his electronics.

Ir show me a speaker manufactuer say his speakers only perform well with expensive special cable

Do you really think professionals would waste money on placebo

Having had your original statement proved wrong, you have now shifted the Goal Posts. Why don't you prove that these professionals didn't use them on the grounds of improved sound.

and....If I did manage to provide a quote, you would just say they were paid to say it. *unknw*

EDIT. If you had read some of my links, you would have found this referring to Transparent Cables:

"Acoustically it will be a musical experience like no other with the clarity. The cables present fundamental tones, overtones in their correct proportion,’ Luder told Australian Hi-Fi Magazine."

and this on MIT cables:

"According to Reiff, "During listening tests, I was amazed at the drastic differences we uncovered when comparing MIT to other products." The scoring stage’s AC power was given the complete MIT Z-System treatment, which Reiff reports resulted in a "reduction in noise and increased clarity throughout the audio range."
 

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CnoEvil said:
Andrewjvt said:
Of these have been given the cables on the basis the cable company can boast that they supply such and such...a company for marketing purpose.

Show me a link where a professional opens his mouth and actually says 'power cables and such improve performance of his electronics.

Ir show me a speaker manufactuer say his speakers only perform well with expensive special cable

Do you really think professionals would waste money on placebo

Having had your original statement proved wrong, you have now shifted the Goal Posts. Why don't you prove that these professionals didn't use them on the grounds of improved sound.

and....If I did manage to provide a quote, you would just say they were paid to say it. *unknw*

EDIT. If you had read some of my links, you would have found this referring to Transparent Cables:

"Acoustically it will be a musical experience like no other with the clarity. The cables present fundamental tones, overtones in their correct proportion,’ Luder told Australian Hi-Fi Magazine."

Well im at work for one and all thise posts are misleading and that quote is pure marketing bs and you know it.
Come on man
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Of these have been given the cables on the basis the cable company can boast that they supply such and such...a company for marketing purpose.

Show me a link where a professional opens his mouth and actually says 'power cables and such improve performance of his electronics.

Ir show me a speaker manufactuer say his speakers only perform well with expensive special cable

Do you really think professionals would waste money on placebo

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html

Why would these guys put their professional integrity on the line for free cables? Of course they wouldn't.
Hi,

As per my other post :

If you examine the link below - you will see that the designer is a recording studio professional. So this is a studio professional selling his cables to other studio professionals. One must assume there is no conflict of interest.

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/meet-the-designer.html

Regards,

Shadders.
 

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