pioneer bdp-lx71 vs Panasonic bdt-460

[bigboss]

I seem to remember one member on the forum who has a silver Oppo 105 connected to B&O speakers as the Hi Fi system.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

With 4K blu ray player coming next year, how many would be willing to pay £1300 for this? I think Pioneer is a couple of years late in releasing this player.

Agreed. Might as well start saving for an Oppo 4K Blu-ray player, buying a Blu-ray player now is crazy.

 

[bigboss]

Found it. Here's the system, which works as Oppo is also a pre-amp. I wonder if Pioneer can do this....

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/your-system/2014-active-setup

 

[bigboss]

With 4K blu ray player coming next year, how many would be willing to pay £1300 for this? I think Pioneer is a couple of years late in releasing this player.

Agreed.  Might as well start saving for an Oppo 4K Blu-ray player, buying a Blu-ray player now is crazy.

Well, I will be buying a player in December, most likely an Oppo (would have been tempted by the LX58 if it was £400).

 

[ellisdj]

Found it. Here's the system, which works as Oppo is also a pre-amp. I wonder if Pioneer can do this....

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/your-system/2014-active-setup

I think its going be a rare person who uses a blu ray player as a dedicated source for hifi.

If you think - Universal Blu Ray Player but with onboard 1TB SSD - with ability to rip and store your music - or simply copy onto it from exisiitng rips / or stream via the new HD good quality music servers.

But the money spent on the analogue section is invested in the digital output section - to make it proper solution - this will surely be a better more appealing product

 

[bigboss]

Law of diminishing returns is what comes to my mind.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

With 4K blu ray player coming next year, how many would be willing to pay £1300 for this? I think Pioneer is a couple of years late in releasing this player.

Agreed. Might as well start saving for an Oppo 4K Blu-ray player, buying a Blu-ray player now is crazy.

Well, I will be buying a player in December, most likely an Oppo (would have been tempted by the LX58 if it was £400).

Why would you buy a Blu-ray player now, when in a year you can buy a real 4K one?

 

[ellisdj]

That makes less sense than having a dedicated section to a product that you cant use - or that using it brings no benefit?

i.e feed a receiver analogue it converts it to digital then back to analogue again and ends up sounding like it would had you fed it digital in the first place, and in most cases sounding worse thanks to the extra conversion

Where as that money is used on something useful like a storage facility for music doing away with the need for an additional streaming type product and product for storage for your music. And also ££ invested on improved playback over digital - thats a triple win for most people in my book

Its also truely universal then

 

[bigboss]

With 4K blu ray player coming next year, how many would be willing to pay £1300 for this? I think Pioneer is a couple of years late in releasing this player.

Agreed. Might as well start saving for an Oppo 4K Blu-ray player, buying a Blu-ray player now is crazy.

Well, I will be buying a player in December, most likely an Oppo (would have been tempted by the LX58 if it was £400).

Why would you buy a Blu-ray player now, when in a year you can buy a real 4K one?

I don't anticipate watching 4K for 2-3 years at least, especially after investing in a 1080p projector now. I need a 3D capable blu ray player in the meantime. I want a well built player with smooth disc loading tray mechanism and excellent support with firmware updates. Only Oppo, Panasonic and Sony provide that level of support, and only Oppo has the build I'm looking for (Panasonic BDT700 is as expensive as the Oppo; I'll prefer the Oppo to it). Pioneer has a great build but not sure about firmware updates in the future.

 

[bigboss]

That makes less sense than having a dedicated section to a product that you cant use - or that using it brings no benefit?

i.e feed a receiver analogue it converts it to digital then back to analogue again and ends up sounding like it would had you fed it digital in the first place, and in most cases sounding worse thanks to the extra conversion

Where as that money is used on something useful like a storage facility for music doing away with the need for an additional streaming type product and product for storage for your music. And also ££ invested on improved playback over digital - thats a triple win for most people in my book

Its also truely universal then

Of course, it makes sense for not having features in a player you'll never use.

The Pioneers will drop in price soon; I can't see them selling many players at that price.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

With 4K blu ray player coming next year, how many would be willing to pay £1300 for this? I think Pioneer is a couple of years late in releasing this player.

Agreed. Might as well start saving for an Oppo 4K Blu-ray player, buying a Blu-ray player now is crazy.

Well, I will be buying a player in December, most likely an Oppo (would have been tempted by the LX58 if it was £400).

Why would you buy a Blu-ray player now, when in a year you can buy a real 4K one?

I don't anticipate watching 4K for 2-3 years at least, especially after investing in a 1080p projector now. I need a 3D capable blu ray player in the meantime. I want a well built player with smooth disc loading tray mechanism and excellent support with firmware updates. Only Oppo, Panasonic and Sony provide that level of support, and only Oppo has the build I'm looking for (Panasonic BDT700 is as expensive as the Oppo; I'll prefer the Oppo to it). Pioneer has a great build but not sure about firmware updates in the future.

I see. I suppose with me it will come down to what OLED comes out. LG are releasing one soon that is only 1080p again, but some are saying motion is not very good. This one here:

http://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-55ec930v-oled-tv.1898778/

 

[bigboss]

This is what I wrote in my impressions of the TV shootout I attended:

"LG OLED looked very attractive with beautiful images, which made motion problems more difficult to spot.".

Check what's mentioned in HDTV Test's summary of the shootout:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/result-201406013793.htm
"Mesmerised by the LG OLED’s awesome dynamic range, a few attendees commented that football was highly enjoyable on the TV despite featuring the lowest motion resolution even with [TruMotion] engaged."

 

[Deleted member 2457]

This is what I wrote in my impressions of the TV shootout I attended:

"LG OLED looked very attractive with beautiful images, which made motion problems more difficult to spot.".

Check what's mentioned in HDTV Test's summary of the shootout:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/result-201406013793.htm

"Mesmerised by the LG OLED’s awesome dynamic range, a few attendees commented that football was highly enjoyable on the TV despite featuring the lowest motion resolution even with [TruMotion] engaged.Mesmerised by the LG OLED’s awesome dynamic range, a few attendees commented that football was highly enjoyable on the TV despite featuring the lowest motion resolution even with [TruMotion] engaged."

Yep. Then I think it's hard to fault my system at the moment anyway but I do keep looking at these upgrades to see what is what.

 

[ellisdj]

Dynamic range is the thing that most people naturally appreciate - not sure the science behind it but I posted a video with the owner of ISF in another thread and he mentioned it in that.

So thats obviosuly what gives more of a wow factor than other characterisitcs