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[ellisdj]

Its perfect distance for max detail

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Article/How-Far-Should-I-Sit.php

I also have it raised up on the wall - is 100% better and looks bigger then being level or below eye height.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Ah thanks for the feedback, it is good to know you can go back to the old settings, I think Steve Withers is a good route. Looks like it will cost me £250 though, how much did you pay? Cheers.

If you get it done gel you will get a full report with all your settings listed for you, you can go back to the presets at the touch of a button with no issue. If the worst happens and you wipe the settings or need to do a factory reset then you just follow the settings in the report and input them to get back to the calibrated result.

Yep, that is really good to know - cheers! :cheers:

 

[Deleted member 2457]

£225 to £250 for a single calibration seems to be a pretty standard price.

:cheers:

 

[rocketrazor]

Great review

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp50vt65b-201310062973.htm

Interesting though the part about 2.4 calibration. Other than ellisdj who I remember reading calibrated his at 2.4 did any of the professional calibrations get done at 2.4? (For any tv not just the vt65's)

cheers

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Great review

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp50vt65b-201310062973.htm

Interesting though the part about 2.4 calibration. Other than ellisdj who I remember reading calibrated his at 2.4 did any of the professional calibrations get done at 2.4? (For any tv not just the vt65's)

cheers

:cheers: Good review.

 

[mr malarky]

Great review

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp50vt65b-201310062973.htm

Interesting though the part about 2.4 calibration. Other than ellisdj who I remember reading calibrated his at 2.4 did any of the professional calibrations get done at 2.4? (For any tv not just the vt65's)

cheers

That is interesting re the 2:4 gamma. Mine was done at 2:2 (though we rarely, if ever, watch in true "blackout" conditions).

 

[rocketrazor]

Great review

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp50vt65b-201310062973.htm

Interesting though the part about 2.4 calibration. Other than ellisdj who I remember reading calibrated his at 2.4 did any of the professional calibrations get done at 2.4? (For any tv not just the vt65's)

cheers

That is interesting re the 2:4 gamma. Mine was done at 2:2 (though we rarely, if ever, watch in true "blackout" conditions).

i always watch my evening films in blackout conditions in the winter, it's a little more difficult in the summer

i guess that would be true blackout as the only light availble is the light from the tv, once I turn it off I can't see anything and keep tripping over the remotes, I really shouldn't keep them on the floor in the middle of the room :rofl:

 

[Pindi]

Oldboy, what happened to Homer ?

Wasn't appropriate to my forum name, meant to change it ages ago. The image comes from where my forum name came from ie the movie Oldboy, simply a fabulous movie and one of my top 3 movies of all time

I was only talking about Oldboy on one of my many Whatsapp chats a couple of days ago. It really is an epic film.

But, did the director copy one of the fight scenes from Enter the Dragon? Remember the breathtaking fight scene where he goes into the lift?

Bruce Lee does something very similiar in Enter the Dragon, although not quite on the same level.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I watched tennis for the first time on my VT65 last night and that looked fantastic. Motion was really good. The next step must be 4K.

 

[rocketrazor]

I watched tennis for the first time on my VT65 last night and that looked fantastic.

I'm not sure tennis and fantastic should ever be in the same sentence

 

[Oldboy]

Great review

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp50vt65b-201310062973.htm

Interesting though the part about 2.4 calibration. Other than ellisdj who I remember reading calibrated his at 2.4 did any of the professional calibrations get done at 2.4? (For any tv not just the vt65's)

cheers

Yes my movie mode was calibrated to 2.4 rocket. Standard mode is set to 2.2 so I do have a choice between the two and when using movie mode I have just one table lamp on in the room to make it much darker and turn off my halogen floorlamp or indeed have the lights off entirely. A 2.4 setting in a bright room seems to crush the blacks and you lose detail and definition to any dark scene, Julian told me that 2.4 is now considered the optimal setting for movies but that different calibrators have their own view on that so perhaps that's not a given and depends on who calibrates your TV.

I do prefer the 2.4 movie setting for blu rays and dvds even though you do need to darken the room somewhat but it produces a far better image to my eyes, 2.2 standard mode is still great in a brighter room though and is set up for that environment but 2.4 movie mode is definately better.

Any news with your TV since the last update?

 

[rocketrazor]

My tv is being collected tomorrow for the retailer to do their own testing. Then I have to sit and wait and see if they either 'can't see it' or 'it's within spec' :wall:

or if they admit that it is faulty and will give me a refund :bounce:

either way I expect to be waiting and chasing for a couple of weeks, such a painful process

 

[Oldboy]

I was only talking about Oldboy on one of my many Whatsapp chats a couple of days ago. It really is an epic film.

But, did the director copy one of the fight scenes from Enter the Dragon? Remember the breathtaking fight scene where he goes into the lift?

Bruce Lee does something very similiar in Enter the Dragon, although not quite on the same level.

Agreed. It's simply brilliant and a must see...shame Hollywood is about to completely ruin it by needlessly remaking it as they have run out of original ideas for movies, I hope it's an epic fail as the original is faultless.

I wouldn't say the fight scene with the hammer copies Enter The Dragon though...there are similar in style and indeed cinematogrophy but are very different scenes although taking the nunchucks out of the the scene from Enter The Dragon initially was a mistake and it's great that later editions restored it. I'm just happy you are as much of a fan of that scene from Enter The Dragon as I am as far too many people hold up the final scenes featuring the mirrored room as the iconic scenes but for me that whole escape part of the film is far better and more brutal.

The fight scene in Oldboy is alot shorter and far more brutal and nasty than anything in Enter The Dragon and serves a very different purpose as he had been waiting for the opportunity for so long, if you have ever seen The Raid then you can see where alot of the tone for the fight scenes in there came from...Oldboy. Very similar in tone and shot in claustrophobic corridors with little room to move and no extended kicks and punches, a kick or a punch does hurt and Hollywood should take note

 

[ellisdj]

I havent found the 2.4 calibration it to crush blacks in lighter room viewing - I have mine on 2.4 gamma all the time. I dont generally watch films in the daytime that much - more general tv, there is not a huge amount of dark scenes in general tv. When I have put films on I havent found the images lacking in the blacks at all. I would close the curtains to watch a film seriously - but that will not be total blackout conditions. I have found at 2.4 gamma everything is shown up - by that I mean poor production, poor camera work/ focusing - one scene or bit of a scene can be more in focus than another due to the camera angle, work, light etc. Not all camera work is spot on I can really see the difference in the lighting in certain parts of programs. How an outdoor filmed part of a program with dull sun light is not a clear as as one in a manufactured or brighter sun lit filmed part of the same thing .... Maybe I am just imagining it... Not just a little bit - its clear as a day.

 

[rocketrazor]

Good to see that there are 2.4 calibrations out there. So 2.2 is better for a brighter room, 2.4 is better for a darker room. 2.4 in a bright room looses the blacks, what if you do 2.2 in a dark room, that's the difference to 2.4?

cheers

 

[Oldboy]

My tv is being collected tomorrow for the retailer to do their own testing. Then I have to sit and wait and see if they either 'can't see it' or 'it's within spec' :wall:

or if they admit that it is faulty and will give me a refund :bounce:

either way I expect to be waiting and chasing for a couple of weeks, such a painful process

The fight continues then :wall:

I just hope that once the retailer has looked at it they see sense and that you get a refund, it does seem to have dragged on and on this one though and it's about time you had a definitive answer one way or the other. Fingers crossed you get some good news soon and can move on, what's on the hit list to replace it or haven't you thought that far ahead yet?

 

[Oldboy]

Good to see that there are 2.4 calibrations out there. So 2.2 is better for a brighter room, 2.4 is better for a darker room. 2.4 in a bright room looses the blacks, what if you do 2.2 in a dark room, that's the difference to 2.4?

cheers

2.2 in a darker room seems a bit too bright to me and the blacks don't go as deep as they do in 2.4 movie mode. Every TV is different though and the same may well not be true of plasma TVs simply because of the differences in tech, plasma is better in a darker room and therefore might not need to go down to 2.4 as it's able to dig out that detail and black level at 2.2??

All I can say is how my calibration was done and for my Samsung 55F8000 TV in my room 2.4 movie is better in a darker room

 

[rocketrazor]

My tv is being collected tomorrow for the retailer to do their own testing. Then I have to sit and wait and see if they either 'can't see it' or 'it's within spec' :wall:

or if they admit that it is faulty and will give me a refund :bounce:

either way I expect to be waiting and chasing for a couple of weeks, such a painful process

The fight continues then :wall:

I just hope that once the retailer has looked at it they see sense and that you get a refund, it does seem to have dragged on and on this one though and it's about time you had a definitive answer one way or the other. Fingers crossed you get some good news soon and can move on, what's on the hit list to replace it or haven't you thought that far ahead yet?

cheers oldboy, I could do with getting it sorted soon.

ive considered a few tvs if I can get a refund.

Sony 55" w905 and w805

Samsung 55" f7000, can't have the f8000 due to the stand, I can't wall mount the tv as it's in a corner

Philips 55" 8008 although this might be to much and you can't get at John Lewis, but I'd it's the best I'll get it else where if there returns policy is any good

Panasonic 50vt65 I'd be silly not to consider it given that it's so good, but it would really have to be much much much better than the rest. Also given my space I can get 55" LCD/led but only 50" plasma due to the frame

cant think of any more, if there is one I've missed let me know

 

[rocketrazor]

Good to see that there are 2.4 calibrations out there. So 2.2 is better for a brighter room, 2.4 is better for a darker room. 2.4 in a bright room looses the blacks, what if you do 2.2 in a dark room, that's the difference to 2.4?

cheers

2.2 in a darker room seems a bit too bright to me and the blacks don't go as deep as they do in 2.4 movie mode. Every TV is different though and the same may well not be true of plasma TVs simply because of the differences in tech, plasma is better in a darker room and therefore might not need to go down to 2.4 as it's able to dig out that detail and black level at 2.2??

All I can say is how my calibration was done and for my Samsung 55F8000 TV in my room 2.4 movie is better in a darker room

cheers, it's all interesting stuff to consider later on.

Did I read elsewhere that you lost all your calibrated settings after some firmware update/reset :help:

hope it was easy to get back

 

[Oldboy]

Your list seems pretty much identical to the one I drew up of replacement TVs rocket except I added the 55F8000 to it. It came down to the Sony W9, Samsung F7000 and 8000 and a VT65 when I auditioned them and I've a feeling the same will be true for you, it's a personal choice but any of those are a good bet.

Yep lost all my settings when trying to rectify a slight niggle with the Smart Hub of the TV which had slowed to a crawl and took the advice on the Samsung UES8000 thread here:

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/tvs-and-projectors/samsung-ue55es8000-warning

which turned out to be incorrect advice and instead of doing a so called "soft" reset it reset EVERYTHING! It even wiped my entire Smart Hub and just left me with the web browser, it's taken me a few days to get it all back as I wasn't able to access the Samsung portal for downloading apps as that is an app in itself...I could shoot the person responsible for that misguided advice as it's caused me all sorts of issues but serves me right for assuming an ES8000 model would be the same as F8000.

Fortunately getting the calibration results back into the TV was simple enough as I just copied the report which detailed every setting but it was still time consuming and not what I expected, I've left a warning on the thread for everyone else so they don't have to go through the same hassle but it's mostly my fault so lesson learnt and it's all back and working correctly now

 

[rocketrazor]

Your list seems pretty much identical to the one I drew up of replacement TVs rocket except I added the 55F8000 to it. It came down to the Sony W9, Samsung F7000 and 8000 and a VT65 when I auditioned them and I've a feeling the same will be true for you, it's a personal choice but any of those are a good bet.

Yep lost all my settings when trying to rectify a slight niggle with the Smart Hub of the TV which had slowed to a crawl and took the advice on the Samsung UES8000 thread here:

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/tvs-and-projectors/samsung-ue55es8000-warning

which turned out to be incorrect advice and instead of doing a so called "soft" reset it reset EVERYTHING! It even wiped my entire Smart Hub and just left me with the web browser, it's taken me a few days to get it all back as I wasn't able to access the Samsung portal for downloading apps as that is an app in itself...I could shoot the person responsible for that misguided advice as it's caused me all sorts of issues but serves me right for assuming an ES8000 model would be the same as F8000.

Fortunately getting the calibration results back into the TV was simple enough as I just copied the report which detailed every setting but it was still time consuming and not what I expected, I've left a warning on the thread for everyone else so they don't have to go through the same hassle but it's mostly my fault so lesson learnt and it's all back and working correctly now

ah mate, sorry to hear that. At least it's back to normal now though :wall:

i thought the list was similar, they seem to be the better tv's at the mo

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Great review

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp50vt65b-201310062973.htm

Interesting though the part about 2.4 calibration. Other than ellisdj who I remember reading calibrated his at 2.4 did any of the professional calibrations get done at 2.4? (For any tv not just the vt65's)

cheers

Hello rocketrazor, when Steve Withers calibrated my televisions, all of which are plasmas, and all for subdued daylight, with the curtains drawn but certainly not blackout conditions, these were the gammas he arrived at: Pioneer LX5090, gamma 2.1338; Pioneer 428XD, gamma 2.2476; Samsung PS64D8000, gamma 2.2681; LG 60PZ950T, gamma 2.4224.

 

[rocketrazor]

Thanks son_of_sj

do I take it very few people watch films in total black out! am I the only one? I like all lights off

 

[strapped for cash]

I take it very few people watch films in total black out! am I the only one? I like all lights off

Most professional calibrators provide day and night calibration settings. For instance, my TV is calibrated to 2.2. gamma for daytime viewing and 2.4 for viewing in a completely dark room. That way I can watch with the lights on or off.

Ambient light affects greyscale and colour reproduction, so a calibration performed with the lights on will not be as accurate when you turn the lights off, and vice-versa. (It's probably of minor interest, but my 3D calibration was done in a completely dark room. This is the best way to watch 3D content due to the loss of brightness the glasses impose.)

 

[ellisdj]

Strapped that depends on the meter used.

Ifs its a contact meter then it will matter much less.

Even if the meter is not contact then they have compensation for ambient light built in. However I would always do a calibration in a darkened room to overly make sure there are no adverse affects on the results I am sure that's the same for all

You should really learn to do it now you have seen it done.