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As John Duncan has said, get an Airport Express (or AppleTV) and there's your streaming solution.
The Dacmagic is a fine DAC, by the way.
The Dacmagic is a fine DAC, by the way.
plastic penguin said:The other reason for going with a DacMagic - apart from the sound - is if I don't like it I can sell it on and lose little money or if I get the DAC upgrade bug in a few months/ a year I have a good starting point.
Going this route means I'm not pressured into buying something i don't like/can't afford, and I can build at my own pace.
nopiano said:plastic penguin said:The other reason for going with a DacMagic - apart from the sound - is if I don't like it I can sell it on and lose little money or if I get the DAC upgrade bug in a few months/ a year I have a good starting point.
Going this route means I'm not pressured into buying something i don't like/can't afford, and I can build at my own pace.
Hi pp, I wouldn't want to put you off, but I came to this thread immediately after reading this:- http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/from-dacmagic-to-rega-dac
I realise the Rega is over twice the price, so just wondering if you had considered the MF V-DACII at under £200? It might be worth a punt instead, and it has just been upgraded?
nopiano said:Hi pp, I wouldn't want to put you off, but I came to this thread immediately after reading this:- http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/from-dacmagic-to-rega-dac
I realise the Rega is over twice the price, so just wondering if you had considered the MF V-DACII at under £200? It might be worth a punt instead, and it has just been upgraded?
CnoEvil said:nopiano said:Hi pp, I wouldn't want to put you off, but I came to this thread immediately after reading this:- http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/from-dacmagic-to-rega-dac
I realise the Rega is over twice the price, so just wondering if you had considered the MF V-DACII at under £200? It might be worth a punt instead, and it has just been upgraded?
I wasn't going to say anthing as I had no wish to complicate things further....but NP has just said what I was thinking. A review of the V-Dac 11 is available here: http://www.musicalfidelity.com/products/V-Series/V-DAC/V-DACII-review.pdf It is my view that the MF gives the most musical presentation outside of a Rega Dac.
plastic penguin said:I don't doubt your reasoning and there are far better DACs out there. One thing Saturday has really done is to give me a stone-like resolve. I maybe making a mistake or may not, but one thing that never normally lets me down is that "gut-feeling." I liked the DacMagic with RS6s with no splashy treble: Just a clear presentation, punchy and detailed.
Might be opening a 'can of worms', so let's just see which way they wiggle.![]()
Thank you, gentlemen.
nopiano said:Like a couple of you here, I'm not a big Naim fan, if I was pressed to say so. But, ironically, perhaps because I wasn't 'listening' to the Naims on purpose, I have to say it was a cracking good system. I know it should be for the price of a decent family car. The PMCs are every bit as good as folks have said, and my first chance to hear them properly. The demo CD was Keb Mo's self-titled album.
CnoEvil said:plastic penguin said:I don't doubt your reasoning and there are far better DACs out there. One thing Saturday has really done is to give me a stone-like resolve. I maybe making a mistake or may not, but one thing that never normally lets me down is that "gut-feeling." I liked the DacMagic with RS6s with no splashy treble: Just a clear presentation, punchy and detailed.
Might be opening a 'can of worms', so let's just see which way they wiggle.![]()
Thank you, gentlemen.
That's exactly why I initially said nothing; but when someone else writes down your thoughts, then you start thinking there might be something to it. 🙂
plastic penguin said:This penguin is not for turning; decision has been firmly made and no-one or nothing will make me change. Cambridge DacMagic it is. If I drop a biggy I'll be the first to say so, but if I love it then, again, I'll tell you.
CnoEvil said:plastic penguin said:This penguin is not for turning; decision has been firmly made and no-one or nothing will make me change. Cambridge DacMagic it is. If I drop a biggy I'll be the first to say so, but if I love it then, again, I'll tell you.
:silenced: 🙂
CnoEvil said:nopiano said:Like a couple of you here, I'm not a big Naim fan, if I was pressed to say so. But, ironically, perhaps because I wasn't 'listening' to the Naims on purpose, I have to say it was a cracking good system. I know it should be for the price of a decent family car. The PMCs are every bit as good as folks have said, and my first chance to hear them properly. The demo CD was Keb Mo's self-titled album.
Being the cynical old being that I am, I think the choice of CD had a bearing on how you perceived the system. Keb Mo is a favorite album that is very often used to show off systems at their best. It is beautifully recorded and sounds great on most makes - was this the only CD they used? This is a personal observation to explain the above comment, and is in no way meant as a pop at Naim gear per se. 🙂
plastic penguin said:One thing Saturday has really done is to give me a stone-like resolve. I maybe making a mistake or may not, but one thing that never normally lets me down is that "gut-feeling." I liked the DacMagic with RS6s with no splashy treble: Just a clear presentation, punchy and detailed.
nopiano said:Good observation, and I am beginning to expect nothing less, Cno! There was plenty of CDs to choose from, but I was happy to go with it, because (a) I know it has a good reputation and (b) I don't own it or know it, other than from the odd demo over the years. So, at the risk of blurring the lines with the 'tune dem' thread, it seemed to fit the bill.
The acoustic 'setting' was as revealing as the instrumental and vocal details; it became clearer on the better wires, with more natural sounding reflection and decay. It was interesting how the more expensive cables seemed to highlight something un-noticed previously, but the top two ranges seemed to keep the detail but assemble it much more coherently.
CnoEvil said:I believe we think alike as we're from a similar era (though I think you're older!)
nopiano said:plastic penguin said:One thing Saturday has really done is to give me a stone-like resolve. I maybe making a mistake or may not, but one thing that never normally lets me down is that "gut-feeling." I liked the DacMagic with RS6s with no splashy treble: Just a clear presentation, punchy and detailed.
Well, now I realise you heard it with your speakers I'd have no reservations. Good call, pp.
Sorry if you had already said that - if so I missed it! Wasn't wanting to complicate things, especially in this little thread!
nopiano said:CnoEvil said:I believe we think alike as we're from a similar era (though I think you're older!)
Oh, you've seen page 57 of the November mag then?![]()
No necessarily. I found little difference between the Touch's own DAC & the similarly priced Beresford Caiman. Although going straight to the Touch may not be the best route for PP.John Duncan said:EDIT - though this still presupposes your purchase of a DacMagic.
John Duncan said:Bearing in mind comparative price between Squeezebox and Airport Express, and the fact that the SB includes a remote, this recommendation supersedes mine.
EDIT - though this still presupposes your purchase of a DacMagic.
tino said:The price of the Squeezebox on Amazon has dropped another tenner to a shade over £150.
Worth a punt. Woops ... I just did!🙂