my new Audio Technica at33-ptg/ii

[stevebrock]

Heard a friends AT33 PTG II on a Garrard 401....... very very nice sounding cart!

Just got an Aria phono stage - AT33 PTG II on order

I might need some help with dip settings on the Aria - I havent got a clue tbh.

 

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Keep us posted Steve...it's gonna sound nice through that aria and gyrodec.wish I could have a listen.lol.

 

[Al ears]

Heard a friends AT33 PTG II on a Garrard 401....... very very nice sounding cart!

Just got an Aria phono stage - AT33 PTG II on order

I might need some help with dip settings on the Aria - I havent got a clue tbh.

It should come with a manual or one should be able online if second-hand.

 

[stevebrock]

Yeah I know its a case of matching up the settings I just want to understand the effect each setting has on loading capicatance etc etc !

Should be here in a few days !

 

[Al ears]

Yeah I know its a case of matching up the settings I just want to understand the effect each setting has on loading capicatance etc etc !

Should be here in a few days !

With the AT33 I would start off with the same configuration as Rega recommend for the Apheta cartridge as seen in the manual.

Load resistance is a figure you can play with to fine tune to your preference. The recommended figure of 100ohm or greater means you have three choices. I have left mine on exactly 100ohm for my AT33.

There's a good thread here:-

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/audio-technica-at33ptg-ii-loading-impedance.368731/

 

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I also have mine at 100 ohm..but haven't fettled with other loads since as I wouldn't really know what I was doing.lol.

 

[Al ears]

I also have mine at 100 ohm..but haven't fettled with other loads since as I wouldn't really know what I was doing.lol.

There are some they say it's better at around 150 ohm but I am not so sure, guess it depends on your phono preamp as well.

 

[stevebrock]

Got the AT 33 fitted this morning - been spinning vinyl all day - it's lovely.

I have been playing with the loading 100 ohms then 150 ohms, currently got it on 70 ohms through the Aria phono stage. Top end a bit recessed on 150 ohms but need to give it some time before I settle.

Have the gain on low at 63.5 Db as opposed to 69.3 Db

What should I have the capacitance at ? How should I match it to the cart ?

 

[Al ears]

Got the AT 33 fitted this morning - been spinning vinyl all day - it's lovely.

I have been playing with the loading 100 ohms then 150 ohms, currently got it on 70 ohms through the Aria phono stage. Top end a bit recessed on 150 ohms but need to give it some time before I settle.

Have the gain on low at 63.5 Db as opposed to 69.3 Db

What should I have the capacitance at ? How should I match it to the cart ?

Try 100pf as a minimum, this can be played with as well

 

[stevebrock]

Thanks al

settimgs on the Aria for capacitance are :

1000pf

2000pf

3200pf

4200pf

i presume you mean 1000pf ?

 

[Al ears]

Thanks al

settimgs on the Aria for capacitance are :

1000pf

2000pf

3200pf

4200pf

i presume you mean 1000pf ?

If I remember correctly the manual recommends 100pf as a minimum. Try 1000 if that's the lowest you have, it's not set in stone.

 

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I got my dino set at cart loading =mc 1.1nf/100 ohms and the Gain set at 70 db

 

[stevebrock]

Loading : 400 ohms

Capacitance : 2000pf

Gain : 63.5db

All sounds very good to me especially on vocals

Will keep experimenting & taking notes

Its a lovely sounding cartridge - quite remarkable really compared to the Nag 500

 

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Loading : 400 ohms

Capacitance : 2000pf

Gain : 63.5db

All sounds very good to me especially on vocals

Will keep experimenting & taking notes

Its a lovely sounding cartridge - quite remarkable really compared to the Nag 500

Sitting here avidly following this evolving thread and wondering when the Nagaoka comparison would raise its head *biggrin* With the Phono Box DS now returned and leaning towards a Dino/Aria/Microgroove or an SUT as a possible way forward this is becoming very interesting. C'mon Steve how much better does the AT MC sound over the MP500?

 

[stevebrock]

It is very hard to put the AT33 over the Nagaoka MP500 both have their fortes - it really is a case over what you prefer - I know that doesnt help.

The Nagaoka is a warmer cartridge for definite which is not a bad thing - however the treble does slightly roll off but there is plenty of detail there.

The AT packs a mighty punch and the detail is really forward, I find the imaging a lot better on the AT with every nuance of the recording presented to me. However we are comparing 2 carts through 2 different paths of the Aria. The MC stage is very tweakable which throws up a pleothora of settings to tune the presentation on the AT

I dont want to do a diservice to the Nagaoka because its an amazing MM cart and I could quite easily live with it but the AT just pips it with the option of tuning the sounds to your ears.

With me suffering with Tinnitus I am finding the AT more enjoyable at the minute.

Hope this helps

 

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Thanks Steve, much appreciated, as always. The AT is at a good price-point for entry into MC territory with the added bonus that the prices are reasonable for the UK market.

Now that I have discovered my Marantz internal stage is really rather good I am leaning more towards the SUT route at the moment.

Was sorry to hear about your tinnitus, I don't think mine is as severe as yours as I have learnt to live with it, but I have found that headphone use does make it far more pronounced.

 

[Al ears]

Thanks Steve, much appreciated, as always. The AT is at a good price-point for entry into MC territory with the added bonus that the prices are reasonable for the UK market.

Now that I have discovered my Marantz internal stage is really rather good I am leaning more towards the SUT route at the moment.

Was sorry to hear about your tinnitus, I don't think mine is as severe as yours as I have learnt to live with it, but I have found that headphone use does make it far more pronounced.

Be aware that good SUTs are quite often more expensive than a suitable phono preamp. ;-)

Other benefits of a moving magnet are you can change the stylus when it breaks or wears out and you, with some amps, don't need to go to the expense of a separate phono preamp.

Having said that the AT33, in any of it's guises, is a quality product for the money.

 

[stevebrock]

Thought I would resurrect this thread !

today my mate popped round and asked me to fit a Nag 200 to his RP6 - duly fitted and listened too through my Primare gear - still gobsmacked how the Nags sound.

However something funny happened - on the back of the Primare phono I have settings for the loading ranging from 10 to 500 ohms - for some reason I had set the loading at 10 ohms when in fact the AT33 should be loaded at 100ohms - oops I've it set like this since new - always sounded great but now I have it loaded at 100 ohms it's like night & day everything thing seems more precise - so much better.........

small things eh

 

[Al ears]

Thought I would resurrect this thread !

today my mate popped round and asked me to fit a Nag 200 to his RP6 - duly fitted and listened too through my Primare gear - still gobsmacked how the Nags sound.

However something funny happened - on the back of the Primare phono I have settings for the loading ranging from 10 to 500 ohms - for some reason I had set the loading at 10 ohms when in fact the AT33 should be loaded at 100ohms - oops I've it set like this since new - always sounded great but now I have it loaded at 100 ohms it's like night & day everything thing seems more precise - so much better.........

small things eh

Small things indeed, although don't be afraid to play with those settings, they are just recommendations. ;-)