Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
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aliEnRIK:
Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
well its plenty powerful enough for music, ive had the volume far louder for that and they remain perfectly composed, they're not damaged either, thank god
Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
well its plenty powerful enough for music, ive had the volume far louder for that and they remain perfectly composed, they're not damaged either, thank god
maxflinn:aliEnRIK:
Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
well its plenty powerful enough for music, ive had the volume far louder for that and they remain perfectly composed, they're not damaged either, thank god
So your amp goes to zero and you had it at -10?
But when you listen to music you have it FAR louder than that??
Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
well its plenty powerful enough for music, ive had the volume far louder for that and they remain perfectly composed, they're not damaged either, thank god
So your amp goes to zero and you had it at -10?
But when you listen to music you have it FAR louder than that??
aliEnRIK:maxflinn:aliEnRIK:
Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
well its plenty powerful enough for music, ive had the volume far louder for that and they remain perfectly composed, they're not damaged either, thank god
So your amp goes to zero and you had it at -10?
But when you listen to music you have it FAR louder than that??
no rik, my avr goes to +16, but thats no longer connected, i had the as-500 at around 10 o'clock on the dial when i heard the crackles, i can play music at 12 o'clock with no distortion at all, i dont listen at that level but ive tried it and its fine.
the avr (when it was connected, yesterday) did cut out at the same point in the movie that caused the crackles though (the hospital explosion in the dark knight, but only when true hd was selected in the bdp's language menu),
Sounds to me like the amp isnt powerful enough for the speakers
You may also have damaged your speakers
well its plenty powerful enough for music, ive had the volume far louder for that and they remain perfectly composed, they're not damaged either, thank god
So your amp goes to zero and you had it at -10?
But when you listen to music you have it FAR louder than that??
no rik, my avr goes to +16, but thats no longer connected, i had the as-500 at around 10 o'clock on the dial when i heard the crackles, i can play music at 12 o'clock with no distortion at all, i dont listen at that level but ive tried it and its fine.
the avr (when it was connected, yesterday) did cut out at the same point in the movie that caused the crackles though (the hospital explosion in the dark knight, but only when true hd was selected in the bdp's language menu),
if my bdp is decoding the true hd audio and then downmixing it to stereo and sending that to my as-500 via analogue interconnects then am i actually getting high res sound? albeit stereo..
im having great fun here guys
.. i phoned my dealer who reccomended stripping back the speaker cable ends and refitting them, done that.
so i played back the same hospital explosion scene and the picture froze temporarily during it
the subwoofer is about a foot away from the bdp wgich is sitting on a fairly sturdy table, i wonder is the heavy bass affecting it? i dont know whats gonna happen next my tv's picture settings are all back to factory settings but i didnt change them
.. what the hell is happening here
so i played back the same hospital explosion scene and the picture froze temporarily during it
Dave_
Well-known member
maxflinn:if my bdp is decoding the true hd audio and then
downmixing it to stereo and sending that to my as-500 via analogue
interconnects then am i actually getting high res sound? albeit stereo..
Yes, but a downmixed/Stereo version of it......
maxflinn:
im having great fun here guys
.. i phoned my dealer who reccomended stripping back the speaker cable ends and refitting them, done that.
so i played back the same hospital explosion scene and the picture froze temporarily during it
the subwoofer is about a foot away from the bdp wgich is sitting on a fairly sturdy table, i wonder is the heavy bass affecting it? i dont know whats gonna happen next my tv's picture settings are all back to factory settings but i didnt change them
.. what the hell is happening here
Not really sure what's going on here max...
But FWIW i think the problem is in the digital domain, a faulty disc or a problem with the BDP maybe? I don't think it's problem with your amp/speakers/wiring.
downmixing it to stereo and sending that to my as-500 via analogue
interconnects then am i actually getting high res sound? albeit stereo..
Yes, but a downmixed/Stereo version of it......
maxflinn:
im having great fun here guys
so i played back the same hospital explosion scene and the picture froze temporarily during it
Not really sure what's going on here max...
But FWIW i think the problem is in the digital domain, a faulty disc or a problem with the BDP maybe? I don't think it's problem with your amp/speakers/wiring.
cheers dave, i think your right, it's not the avr anyway as the same problems occur without it, and i doubt its the as-500 or the speakers as ive tried other bass heavy scenes, one example is chapter 13 in the blu-ray of star trek, where spock goes to warp speed in his spaceship (i really need to grow up
), there's some really potent LFE, but no problems at any volume, so the bdp seems ok, that only leaves the disc
maxflinn:the subwoofer is about a foot away from the bdp wgich is sitting on a fairly sturdy table, i wonder is the heavy bass affecting it?
All 'heavy bass' is not the same
Its possible that the bass in that particular movie is causing the issue. Youd be better off moving the sub away from the player (It wont be doing it any good even if it works fine)
All 'heavy bass' is not the same
Its possible that the bass in that particular movie is causing the issue. Youd be better off moving the sub away from the player (It wont be doing it any good even if it works fine)
maxflinn:if my bdp is decoding the true hd audio and then downmixing it to stereo and sending that to my as-500 via analogue interconnects then am i actually getting high res sound? albeit stereo..
It would be stereo, but im pretty sure it wont be hidef stereo
It would be stereo, but im pretty sure it wont be hidef stereo
maxflinn:
there's a worrying little issue emerging though, when watching the hospital explosion in the dark knight, with true hd selected on the bdp, there are loud crackles and pops coming from my speakers, i thought that this was part of the effects, but when i turned the sound down a touch i couldn't hear them
..
So when you turned the sound down the crackles etc disappeared and it sounded ok?
That definitely points to a volume problem then (And possibly in conjunction with playing in stereo)
there's a worrying little issue emerging though, when watching the hospital explosion in the dark knight, with true hd selected on the bdp, there are loud crackles and pops coming from my speakers, i thought that this was part of the effects, but when i turned the sound down a touch i couldn't hear them
So when you turned the sound down the crackles etc disappeared and it sounded ok?
That definitely points to a volume problem then (And possibly in conjunction with playing in stereo)
aliEnRIK:maxflinn:
there's a worrying little issue emerging though, when watching the hospital explosion in the dark knight, with true hd selected on the bdp, there are loud crackles and pops coming from my speakers, i thought that this was part of the effects, but when i turned the sound down a touch i couldn't hear them
..
So when you turned the sound down the crackles etc disappeared and it sounded ok?
That definitely points to a volume problem then (And possibly in conjunction with playing in stereo)
hmmm, i dont know about a volume issue persay as i can turn it up very very loud with other movies and music with no problems. but perhaps its an issue with the scene itself, all those explosions are designed to be output through 5 speakers and a sub, the bdp is mixing it up and sending it all through the amp in just two, plus the sub..
there's a worrying little issue emerging though, when watching the hospital explosion in the dark knight, with true hd selected on the bdp, there are loud crackles and pops coming from my speakers, i thought that this was part of the effects, but when i turned the sound down a touch i couldn't hear them
So when you turned the sound down the crackles etc disappeared and it sounded ok?
That definitely points to a volume problem then (And possibly in conjunction with playing in stereo)
hmmm, i dont know about a volume issue persay as i can turn it up very very loud with other movies and music with no problems. but perhaps its an issue with the scene itself, all those explosions are designed to be output through 5 speakers and a sub, the bdp is mixing it up and sending it all through the amp in just two, plus the sub..
Sounds to me like the amp is struggling to drive some frequencies in that scene into the Dynaudios. Don't think anything is wrong, just that you're pushing it too hard.
Oh, and isn't Persay what Robert Plant's friends in Halesowen used to call him when he was growing up? I didn't know you did accents, max...
Oh, and isn't Persay what Robert Plant's friends in Halesowen used to call him when he was growing up? I didn't know you did accents, max...
yea perhaps your right andrew, if it was the disc or bdp that was the problem then i suppose my avr wouldn't have cut out, if it happens again with a different movie then ill have to look at changing something, probably my stereo amp, if not ill just enjoy and forget about it..
i have to say i dont like the subwoofer with music at all, sure it lends some more bass but for my tastes its too much, i cant get it to integrate with my amp as i would like, i much prefer the dynaudios on their own, although if i do flog my avr i guess i can turn on the sub for movies only as its fine for them..
i thought id hit the space bar earlier, it's not that i'm poor at spelling per se, honest
i have to say i dont like the subwoofer with music at all, sure it lends some more bass but for my tastes its too much, i cant get it to integrate with my amp as i would like, i much prefer the dynaudios on their own, although if i do flog my avr i guess i can turn on the sub for movies only as its fine for them..
i thought id hit the space bar earlier, it's not that i'm poor at spelling per se, honest
well, rick is looking into the issues ive had guys, he's been in
contact with yamaha and has emailed me asking for the exact point in the
movie that caused the problem, and i didn't even buy any of my kit from
rick, well, bar my new chunky copper speaker cables, so fair play to him
..
the
latest advice rick has given me is to set my as-500 to 8ohms and to use
that setting unless i see/hear any signs of the amp struggling, although
that advice may be in the context of my ongoing search into the issues
ive had and not general advice re. using 4ohm speakers..
music and movies still sound great though, no difference to the
4ohm setting that i can detect, i'm going to avoid the dark knight till i get to the bottom of this issue, everything else sounds great anyway..
contact with yamaha and has emailed me asking for the exact point in the
movie that caused the problem, and i didn't even buy any of my kit from
rick, well, bar my new chunky copper speaker cables, so fair play to him
the
latest advice rick has given me is to set my as-500 to 8ohms and to use
that setting unless i see/hear any signs of the amp struggling, although
that advice may be in the context of my ongoing search into the issues
ive had and not general advice re. using 4ohm speakers..
music and movies still sound great though, no difference to the
4ohm setting that i can detect, i'm going to avoid the dark knight till i get to the bottom of this issue, everything else sounds great anyway..
daveh75:
maxflinn:if my bdp is decoding the true hd audio and then
downmixing it to stereo and sending that to my as-500 via analogue
interconnects then am i actually getting high res sound? albeit stereo..
Yes, but a downmixed/Stereo version of it......
maxflinn:
im having great fun here guys
.. i phoned my dealer who reccomended stripping back the speaker cable ends and refitting them, done that.
so i played back the same hospital explosion scene and the picture froze temporarily during it
the subwoofer is about a foot away from the bdp wgich is sitting on a fairly sturdy table, i wonder is the heavy bass affecting it? i dont know whats gonna happen next my tv's picture settings are all back to factory settings but i didnt change them
.. what the hell is happening here
Not really sure what's going on here max...
But FWIW i think the problem is in the digital domain, a faulty disc or a problem with the BDP maybe? I don't think it's problem with your amp/speakers/wiring.
just to update this. you're spot on dave
rick kindly personally contacted yamaha for me and they said the same thing. i'm still not sure whether it's the disc or the bdp that's faulty but seeing as i've only ever had problems with one scene on one disc it looks like the disc. at least i can rest easy knowing it's not my amp.
maxflinn:if my bdp is decoding the true hd audio and then
downmixing it to stereo and sending that to my as-500 via analogue
interconnects then am i actually getting high res sound? albeit stereo..
Yes, but a downmixed/Stereo version of it......
maxflinn:
im having great fun here guys
so i played back the same hospital explosion scene and the picture froze temporarily during it
Not really sure what's going on here max...
But FWIW i think the problem is in the digital domain, a faulty disc or a problem with the BDP maybe? I don't think it's problem with your amp/speakers/wiring.
just to update this. you're spot on dave
rick kindly personally contacted yamaha for me and they said the same thing. i'm still not sure whether it's the disc or the bdp that's faulty but seeing as i've only ever had problems with one scene on one disc it looks like the disc. at least i can rest easy knowing it's not my amp.
Dave_
Well-known member
daveh75:I thought you'd sold your AVR tbh, Max...
i did, just before xmas. but the problems with the specific scene from the dark knight still persisted while i was using just my as-500. so rick contacted yamaha about it.
they said that seeing as the picture sometimes froze on my tv when playing "the scene" at high volume that it couldn't be the fault of my as-500 and was more likely a problem with the bdp or disc.
like wot u said
edit... i've just read through this thread and can see that i didn't mention that these issues were still present without the avr..
apologies for any confusion
i did, just before xmas. but the problems with the specific scene from the dark knight still persisted while i was using just my as-500. so rick contacted yamaha about it.
they said that seeing as the picture sometimes froze on my tv when playing "the scene" at high volume that it couldn't be the fault of my as-500 and was more likely a problem with the bdp or disc.
like wot u said
edit... i've just read through this thread and can see that i didn't mention that these issues were still present without the avr..
apologies for any confusion
Dave_
Well-known member
maxflinn:
daveh75:I thought you'd sold your AVR tbh, Max...
i did, just before xmas. but the problems with the specific scene from the dark knight still persisted while i was using just my as-500. so rick contacted yamaha about it.
they said that seeing as the picture sometimes froze on my tv when playing "the scene" at high volume that it couldn't be the fault of my as-500 and was more likely a problem with the bdp or disc.
like wot u said
edit... i've just read through this thread and can see that i didn't mention that these issues were still present without the avr..
apologies for any confusion
Ah, ok, makes sense now. Didn't realise you were still getting the issue without the AVR
daveh75:I thought you'd sold your AVR tbh, Max...
i did, just before xmas. but the problems with the specific scene from the dark knight still persisted while i was using just my as-500. so rick contacted yamaha about it.
they said that seeing as the picture sometimes froze on my tv when playing "the scene" at high volume that it couldn't be the fault of my as-500 and was more likely a problem with the bdp or disc.
like wot u said
edit... i've just read through this thread and can see that i didn't mention that these issues were still present without the avr..
apologies for any confusion
Ah, ok, makes sense now. Didn't realise you were still getting the issue without the AVR
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