Looking for budget floorstanders.

[Jpok1000]

Hi all, John's the name & listening to good sounds is the game... Ok, cheesy introduction I know. However, the reason I am here today is that I am wanting to upgrade my existing Mission M70 floorstanders that I have had for nearly 23 years now. Even though these speakers have been fantastic speakers I feel it is time now for a change & to upgrade to something a little more updated. My budget is up to the £1,500 figure & they will be powered by a Yamaha RX-V475 AV Receiver (SEE STATS BELOW). I listen to a huge variety of music from mainly '80s,90's dance, indie, & anything else I like the sound of. Would love to hear feedback & recommendations from owners of floorstanders & why they rate them.

Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven)	115W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven)	80W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Maximum Effective Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) (JEITA)	135W (6ohms, 10% THD)
Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms)	-/110/130/160/W

 

[Cornwall-Sweden]

Good sounding speaker for the money, I have used Klipsch for 20 years, and upgraded at times to bettet and better.

 

[jjbomber]

Hi all, John's the name & listening to good sounds is the game... Ok, cheesy introduction I know. However, the reason I am here today is that I am wanting to upgrade my existing Mission M70 floorstanders that I have had for nearly 23 years now.

Speakers going dead cheap second hand at the moment. If it was me I'd have a look at Gumtree, ebay etc and see if there's anything local. Never know your luck.

 

[plastic penguin]

Hi all, John's the name & listening to good sounds is the game... Ok, cheesy introduction I know. However, the reason I am here today is that I am wanting to upgrade my existing Mission M70 floorstanders that I have had for nearly 23 years now. Even though these speakers have been fantastic speakers I feel it is time now for a change & to upgrade to something a little more updated. My budget is up to the £1,500 figure & they will be powered by a Yamaha RX-V475 AV Receiver (SEE STATS BELOW). I listen to a huge variety of music from mainly '80s,90's dance, indie, & anything else I like the sound of. Would love to hear feedback & recommendations from owners of floorstanders & why they rate them.

Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven)	115W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven)	80W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Maximum Effective Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) (JEITA)	135W (6ohms, 10% THD)
Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms)	-/110/130/160/W

I would be splitting the £1500 budget between speakers and amp. I would book a demo at your nearest dealer. Tell them your max budget and have a side by side comparison.

 

[skinnypuppy71]

I agree with pp...you'd be doing speakers at that price bracket a huge disservice driving them (not very well) with the yamaha,....and you won't have heard what your current mission speakers are capable of either, sorry for being so blunt.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Another who thinks the amp won't be up to the job, though it seems the speakers were well thought-of back in the day - you definitely need to listen before buying, as what might sound objectively better isn't necessarily going to sound subjectively more enjoyable.

 

[Sixtyten]

Assuming you can even get a demo. Case in point; in November I booked a demo of the Q Acoustics 3050i home theatre system in the local (franchised) branch of a leading national UK chain. I did it online. I was then inundated with reminders. The allotted day arrived. I packed up my Arcam A19, boxed my DAC and stuck my laptop under my arm and away I went. As I parked up, I got another text reminder about my booking. You can imagine the surprise when I arrived at the door. "Appointment? You don't have an appointment" "Er, I do". "Er okay let me check. Ah yes, you do, but we can't do a demo because the demo room is full of stock" "You what, I booked this a fortnight ago" "You can demo it here on the shop floor, I just move these boxes out of the way" "But I want to hear the whole kit" "Er....we can't do that" "Okay" I then picked up my belongings and left. On to the next dealer. Rang them up "I'd like to hear the BW 603 S2 please" "Sorry we don't have a demo pair. I can sell you them though" "But I want to hear the home theatre kit" "No, we don't have any on demo, but I can sell you it if you want?" "I'm not going to spend over three grand on speakers without hearing them" "other people do..." "I'm not other people - what happens if were to buy them and I don't like them, can I bring them back?" "Yes, but there's a £500 restock fee". "you what?"

At that point, I gave up. My current Mission kit will do for another few years.

 

[Al ears]

Assuming you can even get a demo. Case in point; in November I booked a demo of the Q Acoustics 3050i home theatre system in the local (franchised) branch of a leading national UK chain. I did it online. I was then inundated with reminders. The allotted day arrived. I packed up my Arcam A19, boxed my DAC and stuck my laptop under my arm and away I went. As I parked up, I got another text reminder about my booking. You can imagine the surprise when I arrived at the door. "Appointment? You don't have an appointment" "Er, I do". "Er okay let me check. Ah yes, you do, but we can't do a demo because the demo room is full of stock" "You what, I booked this a fortnight ago" "You can demo it here on the shop floor, I just move these boxes out of the way" "But I want to hear the whole kit" "Er....we can't do that" "Okay" I then picked up my belongings and left. On to the next dealer. Rang them up "I'd like to hear the BW 603 S2 please" "Sorry we don't have a demo pair. I can sell you them though" "But I want to hear the home theatre kit" "No, we don't have any on demo, but I can sell you it if you want?" "I'm not going to spend over three grand on speakers without hearing them" "other people do..." "I'm not other people - what happens if were to buy them and I don't like them, can I bring them back?" "Yes, but there's a £500 restock fee". "you what?"

At that point, I gave up. My current Mission kit will do for another few years.

Some don't make it easy do they.....

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

local (franchised) branch of a leading national UK chain.

You are allowed to name and shame - I'm guessing from the word 'franchised' that this might be Sevenoaks?

"I'm not going to spend over three grand on speakers without hearing them" "other people do..." "I'm not other people - what happens if were to buy them and I don't like them, can I bring them back?" "Yes, but there's a £500 restock fee". "you what?"

Never heard of a 'restock' fee - would have headed out of the door too. When I bought my last car I was told that others bought without a test drive. Not me.

 

[Al ears]

You are allowed to name and shame - I'm guessing from the word 'franchised' that this might be Sevenoaks?



Never heard of a 'restock' fee - would have headed out of the door too. When I bought my last car I was told that others bought without a test drive. Not me.

with a restocking fee like that it's a wonder they manage to sell anything

 

[Sixtyten]

You are allowed to name and shame - I'm guessing from the word 'franchised' that this might be Sevenoaks?

No, it's the other one, Richer. I considered complaining, but honestly I can't be bothered going through the rigmarole of having to persuade any business to take my cash.

 

[plastic penguin]

No, it's the other one, Richer. I considered complaining, but honestly I can't be bothered going through the rigmarole of having to persuade any business to take my cash.

Richer Sounds aren't franchised. It's only Sevenoaks sound and Vision that are.

I once complained to RS and they gave me a £50 voucher.

 

[Deleted member 197450]

Assuming you can even get a demo. Case in point; in November I booked a demo of the Q Acoustics 3050i home theatre system in the local (franchised) branch of a leading national UK chain. I did it online. I was then inundated with reminders. The allotted day arrived. I packed up my Arcam A19, boxed my DAC and stuck my laptop under my arm and away I went. As I parked up, I got another text reminder about my booking. You can imagine the surprise when I arrived at the door. "Appointment? You don't have an appointment" "Er, I do". "Er okay let me check. Ah yes, you do, but we can't do a demo because the demo room is full of stock" "You what, I booked this a fortnight ago" "You can demo it here on the shop floor, I just move these boxes out of the way" "But I want to hear the whole kit" "Er....we can't do that" "Okay" I then picked up my belongings and left. On to the next dealer. Rang them up "I'd like to hear the BW 603 S2 please" "Sorry we don't have a demo pair. I can sell you them though" "But I want to hear the home theatre kit" "No, we don't have any on demo, but I can sell you it if you want?" "I'm not going to spend over three grand on speakers without hearing them" "other people do..." "I'm not other people - what happens if were to buy them and I don't like them, can I bring them back?" "Yes, but there's a £500 restock fee". "you what?"

At that point, I gave up. My current Mission kit will do for another few years.

Why don’t you demo in store if you can then buy online? You have more rights that way.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Richer Sounds aren't franchised. It's only Sevenoaks sound and Vision that are.

I once complained to RS and they gave me a £50 voucher.

You're right about RS, and I once had a very slight delay in delivery which got me a price reduction. I have nothing but good to say about our local RS.

 

[Sixtyten]

Richer Sounds aren't franchised. It's only Sevenoaks sound and Vision that are.

The one in Belfast is absolutely a franchise.

 

[Al ears]

Richer Sounds aren't franchised. It's only Sevenoaks sound and Vision that are.

I once complained to RS and they gave me a £50 voucher.

Perhaps that's what happens when you give your company to its staff....

 

[rainsoothe]

I would be splitting the £1500 budget between speakers and amp. I would book a demo at your nearest dealer. Tell them your max budget and have a side by side comparison.

+1 to getting a better amp in the process. Also, how big is your room, how far away from the walls can the speakers be and what are your sources (cd player, streamer, turntable etc)?

 

[jjbomber]

I once complained to RS and they gave me a £50 voucher.

I once wrote in to suggest a way to improve their business. All I got was £30.

 

[plastic penguin]

Perhaps that's what happens when you give your company to its staff....

They offered shares, not quite the same as being franchised.

 

[plastic penguin]

I once wrote in to suggest a way to improve their business. All I got was £30.

Better than nothing. I was given the voucher because RSs director or some bigwig came on this forum and offered me the voucher If I went to their nearest branch, which was Guildford. It was over a duff set of headphones. With the voucher & adding £20 I purchased Grado SR60i.

 

[Al ears]

They offered shares, not quite the same as being franchised.

they own 60% of the company, I didn't mention franchising

 

[robdmarsh]

Assuming you can even get a demo. Case in point; in November I booked a demo of the Q Acoustics 3050i home theatre system in the local (franchised) branch of a leading national UK chain. I did it online. I was then inundated with reminders. The allotted day arrived. I packed up my Arcam A19, boxed my DAC and stuck my laptop under my arm and away I went. As I parked up, I got another text reminder about my booking. You can imagine the surprise when I arrived at the door. "Appointment? You don't have an appointment" "Er, I do". "Er okay let me check. Ah yes, you do, but we can't do a demo because the demo room is full of stock" "You what, I booked this a fortnight ago" "You can demo it here on the shop floor, I just move these boxes out of the way" "But I want to hear the whole kit" "Er....we can't do that" "Okay" I then picked up my belongings and left. On to the next dealer. Rang them up "I'd like to hear the BW 603 S2 please" "Sorry we don't have a demo pair. I can sell you them though" "But I want to hear the home theatre kit" "No, we don't have any on demo, but I can sell you it if you want?" "I'm not going to spend over three grand on speakers without hearing them" "other people do..." "I'm not other people - what happens if were to buy them and I don't like them, can I bring them back?" "Yes, but there's a £500 restock fee". "you what?"

At that point, I gave up. My current Mission kit will do for another few years.

That's an awful tale... you poor s*d! I think that retailer, whoever it was, deserve a total mauling on wherever most people will see it! It's absolutely pathetic😒

 

[Al ears]

That's an awful tale... you poor s*d! I think that retailer, whoever it was, deserve a total mauling on wherever most people will see it! It's absolutely pathetic😒

certainly a dealership to avoid it would seem....

 

[plastic penguin]

they own 60% of the company, I didn't mention franchising

IIRC I think the voucher I had predated that employee offer.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

IIRC I think the voucher I had predated that employee offer.

As I understand it, there wasn't an offer as such - 60% of the company's shares are held for the employees in a trust. I get the impression Julian Richer is one of the good guys, generally speaking.