LCD grain

[smuggs]

i bought last year a 42 inch lg 1080p lcd tv thought it would be good but i found out that blu rayh through ps3 is gainy and i went to currys i looked at 15 lcd's up to £1400 and were all awful lcd is the worst thing anyone could ever buy.

Plus the new led tvs were shocking not much better but i found myself really inpressed with plasma no grain say 5ft away is that my eyes or has anyone else found this

 

[aliEnRIK]

Have you set it up correctly (calibrated etc). Im 99.9% sure the ones in currys would NOT be set up

 

[smuggs]

i have spent hours mate i have seen in a year nearly 1000 demo's of lcd gain is everywhere on every one from 22inch to 52inch

 

[Cofnchtr]

Hi,

To do comparisons between TV's, all has to be equal. Did you adjust settings and turn all 'enhancements' off?

I bought a plasma because I thought the picture was more realistic and natural than that of LCD's of the time. I also thought the LCD picture looked processed and artificial.

Cheers,

Cofnchtr.

 

[smuggs]

agree now,it is unreal how bad football it is on a lcd the grass looks miles off being realistic

 

[drummerman]

Have you looked at the better examples of lcd's, led or otherwise? I think your statement is a sweeping generalisation.

 

[laserman16]

Well grass looks ok on mine.

 

[D.J.KRIME]

There are good and bad examples of both LCD and Plasma but personally I am yet to see a LCD that I would choose over a good Plasma as I personally find the picture on LCD's always looks "computerised" and not natural when compared to a Plasma.

 

[aliEnRIK]

smuggs:agree now,it is unreal how bad football it is on a lcd the grass looks miles off being realistic

Ive never looked at one so cant comment. But if your talking purely about colour then it probably needs a proper ISF calibration

 

[ElectroMan]

I assume you mean grain and not gain (you use both spellings), as they are two different things (and both appropriate to televisions)!

I can notice no grain whatsoever on my set, even inches from the screen.

 

[smuggs]

im not sure how u managed that cause i looked at over 25 sony lcd tvs and whatever i do i can see grain fuzzy whatever it is all over surely must see it on faces its like the pixels are moving

 

[ElectroMan]

That definitely sounds like the default settings, where features like noise reduction, sharpness, colour and brightness are set far too high.

Sharpness and noise reduction in particular would make the picture look 'lively', like you describe.

If you look at a Blu-ray like Wall-E and you can see grain, then the set is definitely not calibrated properly.

Have you tried using the THX Optimiser, or a similar set-up program/disc?

 

[smuggs]

THX Optimiser,what is that and where do i find/get this ?

or where do i get a disc u listed and what do i do?

many thanks for any info, i guess all the tvs on display are factory settings like mine at home

 

[ElectroMan]

The THX Optimizer is on a number of DVDs and Blu-rays (it doesn't matter which version you use), eg the Star Wars films, and some Pixar discs - not sure which ones. I used it on the Attack of the Clones DVD. It's usually found on one of the menu screens (and can be easy to miss, as it looks like a logo!).

The official website gives further advice, but basically you just follow the onscreen instructions.

There is also the Digital Video Essentials setup Blu-ray (you can rent it from Lovefilm), which is a bit more complicated/long-winded.

And if you haven't already, you should check out WHFSV's television setup video.

Hope this helps.

 

[aliEnRIK]

smuggs:i have spent hours mate i have seen in a year nearly 1000 demo's of lcd gain is everywhere on every one from 22inch to 52inch

When you said this I thought you ment you HAD calibrated. Switch off ALL the extra processing cr*p and use a THX disc to set Brightness and Contrast. Set colour by whatever looks most natural

 

[smuggs]

thanks im going to have a play

 

[Anonymous]

D.J.KRIME:There are good and bad examples of both LCD and Plasma but personally I am yet to see a LCD that I would choose over a good Plasma as I personally find the picture on LCD's always looks "computerised" and not natural when compared to a Plasma.i have a panasonic plasma , and ps3 , i took my ps3 to my mates house , he has a sony 46v4000 , i had a look at a few of my bluerays on it to compare , the picture was nice and crisp , on the whole very nice , but i noticed that peoples faces looked a little plasticky , artifficial even , the plasma looks more realistic , and dark scenes look much better , maybe a higher spec lcd would fare better ,i was unsure at first , but after seeing the v4000 which cost 200euros more , im sure i made the right choice on my budget....