Interesting...

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="fr0g"]Just direct claims about something a product can or cannot do, are rightfully against regs...[/quote]

No, such claims are not 'against regs' if they can be substantiated. The ruling we're all discussing obliquely didn't say the products didn't work, it said the advertiser wasn't able to substantiate the claims that they did what it was said they did.

It's not the products that have been 'found out', as so many think, but the advertising of them - there was no independent testing of the efficacy or otherwise of the product in question.

 

[Clare Newsome]

As I said earlier on this topic, we've repeatedly asked manufacturers to get more real with their wording, to cut the verbose nonsense and focus on the benefits etc. So yes, less BS more facts would be good.

However, it seems impossible to part some marketeers (and that's not a dig at anyone specific) from their beloved acronyms and feature-names - and it seems they have a point, as the minute - say - TV manufacturers start banging on about their various picture modes ("Super Contrast Engine Eye" or whatever) some consumers begin to think they need it, gotta have it etc. (See numerous threads on this Forum).

That's why we tend to skim the marketing blurb, chuck it aside and get stuck into testing products themselves - we don't care what a product does or doesn't claim to do, it's what it actually DOES in action that counts. And that's what our ratings reflect.

 

[Anonymous]

That sounds great until you try "listening" to the "sound" of mains leads.

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="Masterbluster"]That sounds great until you try "listening" to the "sound" of mains leads.

[/quote]

We report what we hear.

 

[laserman16]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
The University of Toronto tests the Power One Plug and Play Modification

"For our tests, we purchased a Virtual Dynamics Power One aftermarket
a/c power cord. Virtual Dynamics was unaware at the time that the
cable would be used for testing purposes.

The Virtual Dynamics Power One power cable improved the fidelity of the
resultant analogue audio signal compared to the original, exhibiting a
2.6 % increase in signal slew rate compared to a generic power cable,
as well as reducing low-level noise by 1.55 dB, and average noise
levels by 0.35 dB.

The results show positive signs in improving the fidelity of the signal
by using the Virtual Dynamics Power One power cable."

Lights blue touchpaper, retires to safe distance
[/quote]
On a serious note would anyone be able to hear a difference of 1.55db or 0.35db or a 2.6% increase in slew rate.

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="fr0g"][quote user="JohnDuncan"]"probably the best stereo and home cinema loudspeakers in the world"

Guess whose website?

[/quote]

I wonder...

Theres also the nonsense that vinyl is better than CD...(tick, tock)
[/quote],/p>

My views on the subject have been aired, obviously

 

[professorhat]

I can't believe it's not butter...

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="professorhat"]I can't believe it's not butter...[/quote]

My Auntie Marge has been sick for so long, I can't believe she's not better

Brrr-tish!

 

[professorhat]

Believe it or not, that's one of my favourite jokes! Along with, "the man in the bed next to you wants to buy your slippers".

I'm naive me, but happy.

 

[Anonymous]

My dog Minton ate my shuttlecocks.

BAD Minton.

 

[Anonymous]

Puck puck.
Reddit reddit

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
The Virtual Dynamics Power One power cable improved the fidelity of the
resultant analogue audio signal

[...]

Lights blue touchpaper, retires to safe distance

[/quote]

I've never denied that better cables can, in principle, improve analogue audio signals. What really bugs me is people claiming that expensive cables are needed for digital signals (unless over long distances that cause the digital signal to start breaking up).

 

[Thaiman]

[quote user="MalcolmH"]I've never denied that better cables can, in principle, improve analogue audio signals. [/quote]

Power cables can not add any infomation to the system, Naim (my amp

) insist on using there own freebie power cable that came in the box.

 

[Anonymous]

Another mains cable debate......
Just because something doesn't make sense don't discount it.
Has anyone studied Quantum Mechanics? Well if you did you'd realise that the theory is completely illogical. However it's used in the design of practially every microchip.
Don't get too hung up on current, voltages etc. They are just models that work quite well for most applications. Have you ever seen an electron?jules

 

[Andrew Everard]

[quote user="Thaiman"]Power cables can not add any infomation to the system, Naim (my amp

) insist on using there own freebie power cable that came in the box.[/quote]

...Or this



...which Naim clearly believes does make a difference

 

[Alec]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
[quote user="Thaiman"]Power cables can not add any infomation to the system, Naim (my amp

) insist on using there own freebie power cable that came in the box.[/quote]

...Or this



...which Naim clearly believes does make a difference

[/quote]

£395...? LOL!

 

[Thaiman]

I couldn't believe Naim is now going down that route!!!! (and Krell too....must be quite a lucrative market out there)

 

[Tear Drop]

They've always been down 'that route', you just haven't been paying attention

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]
[quote user="Thaiman"]Power cables can not add any infomation to the system, Naim (my amp

) insist on using there own freebie power cable that came in the box.[/quote]

...Or this



...which Naim clearly believes does make a difference

[/quote]

"designed to reduce eddy currents"

Does it not work on anybody else?

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="Andrew Everard"]

[quote user="Thaiman"]Power cables can not add any infomation to the system, Naim (my amp

) insist on using there own freebie power cable that came in the box.[/quote]

...Or this



...which Naim clearly believes does make a difference

[/quote]

Nope. They saw a marketing opportunity and exploited it.

That is unless they have no electronic engineers working for them.