I found the vinyl revival underwhelming... until I made one effective system upgrade

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I think the author should have read through some of the back catalogue of magazines.

The journey of upgrades and picking great components that sound awful together until you find the start of something that works together and is in your budget has been reported by so many.
 

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I never got rid of my Pink Triangle, purchased in 1985, upgraded, and serviced by Peter Swain of #Cymbiosis fame. He works more Majik on other projects than LP12's. I did an A/B comparison with the LP12 Majik at the time, the LP12 sounded pale and anemic in comparison. Interesting how Linn has copied Pink Triangle and adopted the DC motor, his design team must have had a massive disagreement with Mr T
 

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I've always found the cartridge and stylus profile to make the biggest difference to SQ, but hardly mentioned here.

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I agree in part with you "TreyC" - allow me to explain! Being a professional studio and touring musician for over 40 years and a recipient of a "Juno" music award I've always had a need for an excellent hi-fi system as great quality sound reproduction is now and has been a necessity in my line of work. In all that time I firmly believe that, as "Linn" used to suggest in their ads and to expand on what "Trey C" mentioned above, always start at the source of the reproduction chain. In the case of vinyl reproduction the "cartridge, arm and turntable" should get top priority i.e. the best you can afford. Today I have a Michell GyroDec SE on maglev feet with a Rega RB 3000 tonearm and a Benz Micro LPS- MR moving coil cartridge which is connected to a "Fosgate Signature" tube phono pre-amp. However - this is my current setup - my first TT some 50 years ago was one of the excellent at the time "Micro Seiki Direct Drive" turntables which I still have and is working wonderfully in my upstairs system. At that time it was fitted with the very well rated and respected Grace F9 moving magnet cartridge. The "Micro" is still giving me superb vinyl reproduction but now is fitted with a" Denon DL- S1" moving coil running into a vintage "Denon AU-320" step up device and from there into a "Graham Slee" Era V Gold phono pre-amp. I still have my original 1983 vintage Rega P3 with its RB 300 arm which I bought "new" in '83 and a P5 with the RB 700 arm - both still running great! I've never had to replace anything on them but for the belts! The moral of this story is if you can save and buy the best quality gear you can afford it'll last you for as long as you'll want it - makes very sound financial sense.

Some system background may be appropriate at this point. It's taken me roughly 45 years to acquire my current system which consists of the following:

Of course the above mentioned "Michell" deck, arm and cartridge and associated hook gear.

Magnapan 1.7's on "Mye" stands ( I've always loved Magnapans starting with my first MG-II's back in the 70's ) along with a pair of "REL" R-205 10" powered subs which add a bit of low bottom end to the 1.7's. The "REL's" integrate beautifully with Magnapans and are one of the few brands that can because of the options they offer in the ways you can integrate them with the 1.7's.

Amplification is handled by my "Audio Space" Reference 3.1 KT-88 tubed integrated amp which works great with the 1.7's

CD's are handled by my "Shanling - Export Edition" tube CD 300 with the it's digital XLR outputs running into a "Schiit Audio" Yggdrasil DAC.

It's taken me many years of listening to various components and the subsequent comparisons to finally arrive with a system that I truly enjoy everyday - it is very possible .The "in home" listening to various components was a very important key in arriving at my current system. This is possible if you're able to established a good and honest working relationship with your favourite Audio or Hi end shop. Unfortunately these specialty shops are becoming harder and harder to find as the "big box" conglomerates seem to be moving in - but - persevere - it is possible!
Good luck!
 

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I remember my Logic Turntable fondly, aligning the suspension coils with a spirit leveller was frustrating as well as rewarding.
It had a great cast in the supporting role, two mono block Class A Edison valve kit tube amps, these were bridged. The two mid tower Musical Fidelity speakers served as the mouth piece. Oh fudge, I can't remember my preamp, was it the Crimson? Yes I think it was.
I believe it was the mid eighties, Sony/Phillips gave birth to CD laser machines.
I was intrigued I had to have one. I bought my very first CD player, the iconic front loading silver bronze coloured Marantz.
In those days, they built them like tanks.
It was love at first sight, in terms of musical integrity it showed parity with the turntable, No wow and flutter and incredible stability in pitch. The Logic turntable had wonderful neutrality, extracted great detail from MC stylus, as well as the known attributes of Analog such as warmth and depth but this new charlatan was wooing me away.
So convenient, I can play out whole album without switching it over.
Roll forward the clock and now I'm an old sad....... Ah hem,
Anyway yes, I keep a massive collection of music on a PC server.
I listen to high a resolution DSD and Lossless FLAC. ( Thank you www.nativedsd.com for your excellent online catalogue, I hope What HiFi don't mind me giving you a plug)
Its nice vinyl has made a revival and this has increased choice and allows the music listener to explore the numerous audio formats that are available.
Audiophiles should never forget the fun and be too hang up with the branding.
 
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A simple but essential upgrade to my hi-fi system opened my ears to how good vinyl really sounds.

I found the vinyl revival underwhelming... until I made one effective system upgrade : Read mor

i just want to refer that smash was the second album by a great label but already if not 10 , 8 years band when smash came out and there was a compilation cd called "The SST years"their first label
Waste of money, you can get superior quality from a basic DAC like an SMSL SU-1 DAC (~99$): it'll blow any analog source with ease.... Chase good recordings, this is where the quality is from.. Analog is lower fidelity across the board... Basic undergrad stuff in electrical engineering...
 

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Waste of money, you can get superior quality from a basic DAC like an SMSL SU-1 DAC (~99$): it'll blow any analog source with ease.... Chase good recordings, this is where the quality is from.. Analog is lower fidelity across the board... Basic undergrad stuff in electrical engineering...
All that you said i already heard but i can assure you that i´ve tried with diferent Amplifiers and Speakers from the 70´s ,the 80´s , the 90´s and from 2019 and having good Turntables and good CD players with very good internal dac´s,
as i do prefer to change the internal one for a better DAC that is cheap to do , Analog is far more advanced than Digital and i have nothing against Digital, (almost low-fi)
I have a home DAT deck since they came out by Sony, the only available at the time, but i understand not everybody as a system that sounds perfect and can notice the diferencies between a Record, a Compact Disc ,a DAT a Minidisc or Cassette Decks and the best of all,(drums) Reel Open Deck,
i almost considerd the DAT as good as the Reel Open Deck but close never equal as it is the highest form of home taping and sound quality ,
whatever you record into a Reel will sound better and not one format can achive the Reels quality of sound as there is no Cassette Deck that can do so, maybe close but no cigar.
About electronic engeniering there is nothing basic about digital and i could say in 50 years for sure digital will be the best but already is,
just not to us consumers ,the perpectuation of the CD format a 70´s developed digitral format still survives today, only because it´s cheap and in general people prefer it but in the late 80´s there was already a more advanced format in digital,
but for economical reasons will be always like it was when they developed it 40 something years ago,not equal as in the 80´s the CD´s were built from a much better and expensive material.
I remenber most of the people with knowledge comenting the so expected SACD, "it will be a cd with vinyl quality" but at the time we never called Vinyl to Records, as there are more than vinyl to make records as wax that all coloured records are made of,
the SACD already came out but far from what was promissed and nothing that is interesting to me, allthough i bought a sony SACD player ,the first i saw because the price was what today is 400 and something €´s but a year passed and still in the same spot but somehow the price tag was 80€, all in brushed aluminium and strangelly from Sony as it looked well built but only stereo as it was suposed to be.

I think you already notice that as we go forward in time old devices become fashion and most of the guitars in use are Gibson or Fender from the 50´s till the late 60´s as the amplifiers also are ,i do remenber when they started to use again orange amplifiers and also the use of electronic keyboards instead of synthesizers, like the moog and melotron and many more like the electric piano from Fender.

I´ll wait for it to happen, Digital over Analog and your words will be the truth.
 
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