Thanks gents. Yes, as much as i like the idea that i could unplug the ipod and play with playlists etc, and have itunes to do all that stuff too, it would have to charge it as its docked, and have the right connections for the tv and amp/dac perhaps, and it seems pricey. So now im thinking 1 - Stick with a pc 2 - Apple TV 3 - Apple Mac Mini 4 - Stick with a pc again, but get one made that can run with minimal spec and software, in a small quiet enclosure. I would download onto it whatever i needed to run flac files, but id use my main pc for ripping/tagging with eac, then use an external hdd to take the songs over to the music pc. In other words, id use it entirely for organising a library, and playback. No networking of any kind involved. tempted by that if i can think it thru and make it work A mate has a ps3 wth music on, and i like the interfave, but i think it may be, as f0g said in another thread, overkill.