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TrevC

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Vladimir said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
radiorog said:
CnoEvil said:
Andrewjvt said:
Who do you think you are? Behave yourself please its only hifi Or at least have a little respect
You can't win against TrevC, as he deals in facts; whereas we mere mortals have to make do with our opinions, which can simply be dismissed.

Was this a joke?

It's a fact that all amplifier of similar spec sound the same, even tho they clearly don't? And he said he hasn't even heard the abrahmsen.

And it's a fact the story of Jesus was a joke? I'm sorry, but I thought there was no concrete proof either way. He was basing his statement on his opinion. Now that's a fact!

I always stick to the facts. It isn't possible that two amplifiers with identical specs can sound different, and it isn't possible that, 2000 years ago, a child can be born of a virgin, get killed and then spring back to life as a zombie god thingy.

Your small mind You think you understand but your just small minded and disrespectful of other peoples beliefs and opinions

Cno was right why bother

It's the religious that have the small minds. Open your mind to the beauty and wonder of our godless universe! Imagine a world not torn apart by ignorant tribes and their silly imaginary friends!

The point im trying to make to you is not who is right or wrong or what i believe in or you. its your lack of respect for other peoples beliefs This makes you seem self important as if only what you believe is right and dont care about anyone else. Lack of common respect for people.

This is a hifi forum. If you ever feel the need do this again just tell me how bad my amps wall of sounds sounds like then say all amps sound the same lol.

Im not wanting to get into a seahorse battle in saying please be aware you can hurt peoples feelings. Thats all

Seahorse battle?

Micropenis inadequacy challenge.

Jesus versus Mo? http://www.jesusandmo.net/2016/01/27/flat/
 

TrevC

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iQ Speakers said:
In answer to the torch analagy if I'm being kind no. The bulb has no input and is a fixed load. However what makes a 100W or 500W bulb brighter than a 40W one? Both 12V, one will need alot more current, can the 8 AA bateries deliver?

See the adequately powered and clipping part.
 

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well i think the abrahamsen is one hell of an amp for the money i have had my fair share of amps in my life time and the abrahamsen does what i want it to do very well i had taken a risk on buying a amp that i never heard of before so i am so glad that i had taken that risk in getting one if you hear one you would understand why its good and pair the abrahamsen with a good set of speakers then you got hifi bliss which i have have never had before so its a shame lots more people do not try one for them self's then you would understand
 

TrevC

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Blacksabbath25 said:
well i think the abrahamsen is one hell of an amp for the money i have had my fair share of amps in my life time and the abrahamsen does what i want it to do very well i had taken a risk on buying a amp that i never heard of before so i am so glad that i had taken that risk in getting one if you hear one you would understand why its good and pair the abrahamsen with a good set of speakers then you got hifi bliss which i have have never had before so its a shame lots more people do not try one for them self's then you would understand

Does it have an MM input and remote?
 

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TrevC said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
well i think the abrahamsen is one hell of an amp for the money i have had my fair share of amps in my life time and the abrahamsen does what i want it to do very well i had taken a risk on buying a amp that i never heard of before so i am so glad that i had taken that risk in getting one if you hear one you would understand why its good and pair the abrahamsen with a good set of speakers then you got hifi bliss which i have have never had before so its a shame lots more people do not try one for them self's then you would understand

Does it have an MM input and remote?
yes it has a remote but no mm for a record player
 

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Vladimir said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
radiorog said:
CnoEvil said:
Andrewjvt said:
Who do you think you are? Behave yourself please its only hifi Or at least have a little respect
You can't win against TrevC, as he deals in facts; whereas we mere mortals have to make do with our opinions, which can simply be dismissed.

 Was this a joke?

 It's a fact that all amplifier of similar spec sound the same, even tho they clearly don't? And he said he hasn't even heard the abrahmsen.

 And it's a fact the story of Jesus was a joke? I'm sorry, but I thought there was no concrete proof either way. He was basing his statement on his opinion. Now that's a fact!

I always stick to the facts. It isn't possible that two amplifiers with identical specs can sound different, and it isn't possible that, 2000 years ago, a child can be born of a virgin, get killed and then spring back to life as a zombie god thingy.?

Your small mind You think you understand but your just small minded and disrespectful of other peoples beliefs and opinions

Cno was right why bother

It's the religious that have the small minds. Open your mind to the beauty and wonder of our godless universe! Imagine a world not torn apart by ignorant tribes and their silly imaginary friends!

The point im trying to make to you is not who is right or wrong or what i believe in or you. its your lack of respect for other peoples beliefs This makes you seem self important as if only what you believe is right and dont care about anyone else. Lack of common respect for people.

This is a hifi forum. If you ever feel the need do this again just tell me how bad my amps wall of sounds sounds like then say all amps sound the same lol.

Im not wanting to get into a seahorse battle in saying please be aware you can hurt peoples feelings. Thats all

Seahorse battle??

Micropenis inadequacy challenge.

'Hung like a seahorse' love it
I laughed so much last week at work that i lost a contract
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Vladimir said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
radiorog said:
CnoEvil said:
Andrewjvt said:
Who do you think you are? Behave yourself please its only hifi Or at least have a little respect
You can't win against TrevC, as he deals in facts; whereas we mere mortals have to make do with our opinions, which can simply be dismissed.

Was this a joke?

It's a fact that all amplifier of similar spec sound the same, even tho they clearly don't? And he said he hasn't even heard the abrahmsen.

And it's a fact the story of Jesus was a joke? I'm sorry, but I thought there was no concrete proof either way. He was basing his statement on his opinion. Now that's a fact!

I always stick to the facts. It isn't possible that two amplifiers with identical specs can sound different, and it isn't possible that, 2000 years ago, a child can be born of a virgin, get killed and then spring back to life as a zombie god thingy.

Your small mind You think you understand but your just small minded and disrespectful of other peoples beliefs and opinions

Cno was right why bother

It's the religious that have the small minds. Open your mind to the beauty and wonder of our godless universe! Imagine a world not torn apart by ignorant tribes and their silly imaginary friends!

The point im trying to make to you is not who is right or wrong or what i believe in or you. its your lack of respect for other peoples beliefs This makes you seem self important as if only what you believe is right and dont care about anyone else. Lack of common respect for people.

This is a hifi forum. If you ever feel the need do this again just tell me how bad my amps wall of sounds sounds like then say all amps sound the same lol.

Im not wanting to get into a seahorse battle in saying please be aware you can hurt peoples feelings. Thats all

Seahorse battle?

Micropenis inadequacy challenge.

'Hung like a seahorse' love it I laughed so much last week at work that i lost a contract

It's a double-edged sword. Some think I'm actually boasting. *pardon*
 

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Vladimir said:
Andrewjvt said:
Vladimir said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
radiorog said:
CnoEvil said:
Andrewjvt said:
Who do you think you are? Behave yourself please its only hifi Or at least have a little respect
You can't win against TrevC, as he deals in facts; whereas we mere mortals have to make do with our opinions, which can simply be dismissed.

 Was this a joke?

 It's a fact that all amplifier of similar spec sound the same, even tho they clearly don't? And he said he hasn't even heard the abrahmsen.

 And it's a fact the story of Jesus was a joke? I'm sorry, but I thought there was no concrete proof either way. He was basing his statement on his opinion. Now that's a fact!

I always stick to the facts. It isn't possible that two amplifiers with identical specs can sound different, and it isn't possible that, 2000 years ago, a child can be born of a virgin, get killed and then spring back to life as a zombie god thingy.?

Your small mind You think you understand but your just small minded and disrespectful of other peoples beliefs and opinions

Cno was right why bother

It's the religious that have the small minds. Open your mind to the beauty and wonder of our godless universe! Imagine a world not torn apart by ignorant tribes and their silly imaginary friends!

The point im trying to make to you is not who is right or wrong or what i believe in or you. its your lack of respect for other peoples beliefs This makes you seem self important as if only what you believe is right and dont care about anyone else. Lack of common respect for people.

This is a hifi forum. If you ever feel the need do this again just tell me how bad my amps wall of sounds sounds like then say all amps sound the same lol.

Im not wanting to get into a seahorse battle in saying please be aware you can hurt peoples feelings. Thats all

Seahorse battle??

Micropenis inadequacy challenge.

'Hung like a seahorse' love it I laughed so much last week at work that i lost a contract

It's a double-edged sword. Some think I'm actually boasting. *pardon*

Haaaaaaaaaa
 

radiorog

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Andrewjvt said:
TrevC said:
radiorog said:
CnoEvil said:
Andrewjvt said:
Who do you think you are? Behave yourself please its only hifi Or at least have a little respect
You can't win against TrevC, as he deals in facts; whereas we mere mortals have to make do with our opinions, which can simply be dismissed.

Was this a joke?

It's a fact that all amplifier of similar spec sound the same, even tho they clearly don't? And he said he hasn't even heard the abrahmsen.

And it's a fact the story of Jesus was a joke? I'm sorry, but I thought there was no concrete proof either way. He was basing his statement on his opinion. Now that's a fact!

I always stick to the facts. It isn't possible that two amplifiers with identical specs can sound different, and it isn't possible that, 2000 years ago, a child can be born of a virgin, get killed and then spring back to life as a zombie god thingy.

Your small mind You think you understand but your just small minded and disrespectful of other peoples beliefs and opinions

Cno was right why bother

My thoughts exactly. Small and close minded. Not that I'm a believer, but dust and rocks and basic chemicals can contain consciousness, there being a God isn't much more incredible than this, if at all.
 

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TrevC said:
CnoEvil said:
TrevC said:
What differences are there to hear?
There are 2 things that I know.

- You have stated, that the only components that make a meaningful difference to the sound, are speakers and cartridges. You think that if an amp is sufficient to drive the speakers, there will be negligible difference between any of them....this is the reason that you give for not going out and hearing different amps. With this mindset, you are certainly not going to accept that this amp's impressive spec will make a difference.

- Any description that I give about the advantages, is a complete waste of effort, as it will simply be dismissed by you as subjective nonsense; so what's the point. You have no intention of changing your opinion, or listening for yourself....and I am certainly not going to change my view. Our two positions are so irreconcilably different, that there is nothing further to say.

I have listened to amplifiers my entire life and found the differences very subtle /imagined at best. Providing an amplifier is adequately powered and has plenty of caps to soak up the transient peaks and hum the transformer in the PSU itself (which is the main thing) will make no difference when the amp is used below clipping levels. Will a torch running on 8 AA batteries be less bright than the same torch wired to a car battery? Of course not.

Trev, I know pretty much nothing about specs etc, so it's hard to follow some of these conversations, but are you saying that a rega brio r, a NAD 326, a roksan k3, and an abrahamsen, will all sound the same driving efficient speakers, say 89db + 8ohm?
 

rainsoothe

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radiorog said:
TrevC said:
CnoEvil said:
TrevC said:
What differences are there to hear?
There are 2 things that I know.

- You have stated, that the only components that make a meaningful difference to the sound, are speakers and cartridges. You think that if an amp is sufficient to drive the speakers, there will be negligible difference between any of them....this is the reason that you give for not going out and hearing different amps. With this mindset, you are certainly not going to accept that this amp's impressive spec will make a difference.

- Any description that I give about the advantages, is a complete waste of effort, as it will simply be dismissed by you as subjective nonsense; so what's the point. You have no intention of changing your opinion, or listening for yourself....and I am certainly not going to change my view. Our two positions are so irreconcilably different, that there is nothing further to say.

I have listened to amplifiers my entire life and found the differences very subtle /imagined at best. Providing an amplifier is adequately powered and has plenty of caps to soak up the transient peaks and hum the transformer in the PSU itself (which is the main thing) will make no difference when the amp is used below clipping levels. Will a torch running on 8 AA batteries be less bright than the same torch wired to a car battery? Of course not.

Trev, I know pretty much nothing about specs etc, so it's hard to follow some of these conversations, but are you saying that a rega brio r, a NAD 326, a roksan k3, and an abrahamsen, will all sound the same driving efficient speakers, say 89db + 8ohm?

yes, that's what he's saying, and yes, of course he's wrong. Now stop feeding the troll :)
 

TrevC

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rainsoothe said:
radiorog said:
TrevC said:
CnoEvil said:
TrevC said:
What differences are there to hear?
There are 2 things that I know.

- You have stated, that the only components that make a meaningful difference to the sound, are speakers and cartridges. You think that if an amp is sufficient to drive the speakers, there will be negligible difference between any of them....this is the reason that you give for not going out and hearing different amps. With this mindset, you are certainly not going to accept that this amp's impressive spec will make a difference.

- Any description that I give about the advantages, is a complete waste of effort, as it will simply be dismissed by you as subjective nonsense; so what's the point. You have no intention of changing your opinion, or listening for yourself....and I am certainly not going to change my view. Our two positions are so irreconcilably different, that there is nothing further to say.

I have listened to amplifiers my entire life and found the differences very subtle /imagined at best. Providing an amplifier is adequately powered and has plenty of caps to soak up the transient peaks and hum the transformer in the PSU itself (which is the main thing) will make no difference when the amp is used below clipping levels. Will a torch running on 8 AA batteries be less bright than the same torch wired to a car battery? Of course not.

Trev, I know pretty much nothing about specs etc, so it's hard to follow some of these conversations, but are you saying that a rega brio r, a NAD 326, a roksan k3, and an abrahamsen, will all sound the same driving efficient speakers, say 89db + 8ohm?

yes, that's what he's saying, and yes, of course he's wrong. Now stop feeding the troll :)

An idiot called me a troll. Oh no !
 

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