I'm with you here Michael....
In fact heathpw is boring me a little (no offence, mate!!).........
In fact heathpw is boring me a little (no offence, mate!!).........
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Well I've watched 3 films today using the Chord Actives throughout, and either all three sounded excellent (unusual to get such a high standard three times in a row), or these Actives are better than the Lo Pro's I had before. I was starting to settle into how much better the LX82 sounded over my old amp, but now it's like I've just changed it again. I know many will disagree about digital cables making any difference at all, but I've heard it, and that's a I need to know. Even if this is placebo, it's a worthwhile upgrade....
Pistol Pete1:
I'm with you here Michael....
In fact heathpw is boring me a little (no offence, mate!!).........
Thats alright, getting bored with you and one ot two other clueless numpties on here too.
There are one or two that post who have an unstanding basics science and engineering and dont buy into
all this cable cobblers but theres not many. So carry on sticking your fingers in your ears so to speak in the face of overwhelming
logical evdience to the contrary if that makes you happy i am sure you will.
I'm with you here Michael....
In fact heathpw is boring me a little (no offence, mate!!).........
Thats alright, getting bored with you and one ot two other clueless numpties on here too.
There are one or two that post who have an unstanding basics science and engineering and dont buy into
all this cable cobblers but theres not many. So carry on sticking your fingers in your ears so to speak in the face of overwhelming
logical evdience to the contrary if that makes you happy i am sure you will.
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heathpw: Thats alright, getting bored with you and one ot two other clueless numpties on here too.
And yet you still stick around to try and "educate" us - how noble of you. Or is it a court order?
And yet you still stick around to try and "educate" us - how noble of you. Or is it a court order?
Must be a court order, Prof......
Of course if he would like to go and educate another forum, we'd understand.......and hopefully it will satisfy the 'order'........
Of course if he would like to go and educate another forum, we'd understand.......and hopefully it will satisfy the 'order'........
professorhat:
heathpw: Thats alright, getting bored with you and one ot two other clueless numpties on here too.
And yet you still stick around to try and "educate" us - how noble of you. Or is it a court order?
Educate you, thats not possible based on the rubish you have come out with.
Logical reasoning is not your Forte is it.
heathpw: Thats alright, getting bored with you and one ot two other clueless numpties on here too.
And yet you still stick around to try and "educate" us - how noble of you. Or is it a court order?
Educate you, thats not possible based on the rubish you have come out with.
Logical reasoning is not your Forte is it.
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Right, guys, enough with the slanging match - getting very close to breaching House Rules re attacking other members. I don't want this to be yet another cable thread that gets locked.
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I would also like to know if i changed my QED for van del hul HDMI would i notice a difference, i've not been too impressed with the picture quality lately.
Not tried the van del hul cable personally, but I imagine improvements would be there......
Best see if your local van del hul stockist will lend you one perhaps?
Saying that, I know someone on here that will tell you your waste your money........best test and see for yourself, I think!
Best see if your local van del hul stockist will lend you one perhaps?
Saying that, I know someone on here that will tell you your waste your money........best test and see for yourself, I think!
You know what.
I actually agree with all of you!
If you look logically digital information should get from A - B no problems. Everybody talks about the signal getting degraded but as Alien Rik points out the biggest concern is noise in. What he doesn't know about power isn't worth knowing. Also, all you A to B converts please explain why the signal from BD player to 8 TV's in any TV shop looks noisy with poor saturation and weak edges. Its only digital pic should be as good on the first as it is on the 8th - but its not is it, beacuse the signal degrades and noise seeps in.
I own several HDMI cables and have mixed and matched all of them yet the biggest difference for me came from a £30 Mains Conditioner.
Personally i use:
Chord Active for Sky HD - Easily the best for clarity, colours, and it improved the depth of sound from my LCD no end. Loses clarity and gains noise when i swap for Thatcable.
PS3 to 19 inch Sammy - £5 Alba cable gives really tight motion vs my other cables. Only 0.5m long.
BD to Amp to TV - Thatcable x 2. Very pleased with these. Tried swapping for Chord but Thatcable seemed to create tighter edges during BD playback.
Lindy Flat - 7m that i use for my PJ. Runs under carpet for £35. Edges do improve when i use Thatcable but it is lots shorter.
Also have a QED-P but it is damaged now.
So you see no pattern but clearly easier quality signal transfer and shielding from noise make a big difference.
Regards,
Cookie Monster
I actually agree with all of you!
If you look logically digital information should get from A - B no problems. Everybody talks about the signal getting degraded but as Alien Rik points out the biggest concern is noise in. What he doesn't know about power isn't worth knowing. Also, all you A to B converts please explain why the signal from BD player to 8 TV's in any TV shop looks noisy with poor saturation and weak edges. Its only digital pic should be as good on the first as it is on the 8th - but its not is it, beacuse the signal degrades and noise seeps in.
I own several HDMI cables and have mixed and matched all of them yet the biggest difference for me came from a £30 Mains Conditioner.
Personally i use:
Chord Active for Sky HD - Easily the best for clarity, colours, and it improved the depth of sound from my LCD no end. Loses clarity and gains noise when i swap for Thatcable.
PS3 to 19 inch Sammy - £5 Alba cable gives really tight motion vs my other cables. Only 0.5m long.
BD to Amp to TV - Thatcable x 2. Very pleased with these. Tried swapping for Chord but Thatcable seemed to create tighter edges during BD playback.
Lindy Flat - 7m that i use for my PJ. Runs under carpet for £35. Edges do improve when i use Thatcable but it is lots shorter.
Also have a QED-P but it is damaged now.
So you see no pattern but clearly easier quality signal transfer and shielding from noise make a big difference.
Regards,
Cookie Monster
Cookie Monster:
You know what.
I actually agree with all of you!
If you look logically digital information should get from A - B no problems. Everybody talks about the signal getting degraded but as Alien Rik points out the biggest concern is noise in. What he doesn't know about power isn't worth knowing. Also, all you A to B converts please explain why the signal from BD player to 8 TV's in any TV shop looks noisy with poor saturation and weak edges. Its only digital pic should be as good on the first as it is on the 8th - but its not is it, beacuse the signal degrades and noise seeps in.
I own several HDMI cables and have mixed and matched all of them yet the biggest difference for me came from a £30 Mains Conditioner.
Personally i use:
Chord Active for Sky HD - Easily the best for clarity, colours, and it improved the depth of sound from my LCD no end. Loses clarity and gains noise when i swap for Thatcable.
PS3 to 19 inch Sammy - £5 Alba cable gives really tight motion vs my other cables. Only 0.5m long.
BD to Amp to TV - Thatcable x 2. Very pleased with these. Tried swapping for Chord but Thatcable seemed to create tighter edges during BD playback.
Lindy Flat - 7m that i use for my PJ. Runs under carpet for £35. Edges do improve when i use Thatcable but it is lots shorter.
Also have a QED-P but it is damaged now.
So you see no pattern but clearly easier quality signal transfer and shielding from noise make a big difference.
Regards,
Cookie Monster
I have not yet seen a BD demo in shop that was bad and certainly not one that "looks noisy with poor saturation" as you describe it.
HDMI cables dont fail in that manner, they are also insesnsitive to noise becuase because all HDMI cables have a braided coper screen with 85-90 coverage and under neathe that there is a foil sheild which had 100% that bolcks RFI.
[edited by mods- please read House Rule no7 concerning copyright issues]
You know what.
I actually agree with all of you!
If you look logically digital information should get from A - B no problems. Everybody talks about the signal getting degraded but as Alien Rik points out the biggest concern is noise in. What he doesn't know about power isn't worth knowing. Also, all you A to B converts please explain why the signal from BD player to 8 TV's in any TV shop looks noisy with poor saturation and weak edges. Its only digital pic should be as good on the first as it is on the 8th - but its not is it, beacuse the signal degrades and noise seeps in.
I own several HDMI cables and have mixed and matched all of them yet the biggest difference for me came from a £30 Mains Conditioner.
Personally i use:
Chord Active for Sky HD - Easily the best for clarity, colours, and it improved the depth of sound from my LCD no end. Loses clarity and gains noise when i swap for Thatcable.
PS3 to 19 inch Sammy - £5 Alba cable gives really tight motion vs my other cables. Only 0.5m long.
BD to Amp to TV - Thatcable x 2. Very pleased with these. Tried swapping for Chord but Thatcable seemed to create tighter edges during BD playback.
Lindy Flat - 7m that i use for my PJ. Runs under carpet for £35. Edges do improve when i use Thatcable but it is lots shorter.
Also have a QED-P but it is damaged now.
So you see no pattern but clearly easier quality signal transfer and shielding from noise make a big difference.
Regards,
Cookie Monster
I have not yet seen a BD demo in shop that was bad and certainly not one that "looks noisy with poor saturation" as you describe it.
HDMI cables dont fail in that manner, they are also insesnsitive to noise becuase because all HDMI cables have a braided coper screen with 85-90 coverage and under neathe that there is a foil sheild which had 100% that bolcks RFI.
[edited by mods- please read House Rule no7 concerning copyright issues]
Glad you enjoyed the cables Pistol Pete
AlienRik - I was a mains sceptic too but no longer. Far greater difference than i have seen from any video cable upgrade.
I like others will continue to enjoy my AV obsession without 'handbags at dawn' over kit. PistolPete asked a question and his question regards his kit was, in his case the correct answer.
Please, i enjoy these forums, don't expect to be dragged into a dispute based on my own findings and opinions.
Seriously, im more concerned that i am on here because i have seen little quality media of late to make it worth plugging my projector in.
I'll be the tall one at Manchester enjoying my first glimpses of exiting new kit, accesssories and general banter. Really looking forward to it and thought it may be nice to bump into some fellow forum users. I love WHF, forums and my hobby and really don't appreciate 'aggressive' types attacking myself and others.
Remember ' bumble bees shouldn't fly' but they do.
Just enjoy it!
AlienRik - I was a mains sceptic too but no longer. Far greater difference than i have seen from any video cable upgrade.
I like others will continue to enjoy my AV obsession without 'handbags at dawn' over kit. PistolPete asked a question and his question regards his kit was, in his case the correct answer.
Please, i enjoy these forums, don't expect to be dragged into a dispute based on my own findings and opinions.
Seriously, im more concerned that i am on here because i have seen little quality media of late to make it worth plugging my projector in.
I'll be the tall one at Manchester enjoying my first glimpses of exiting new kit, accesssories and general banter. Really looking forward to it and thought it may be nice to bump into some fellow forum users. I love WHF, forums and my hobby and really don't appreciate 'aggressive' types attacking myself and others.
Remember ' bumble bees shouldn't fly' but they do.
Just enjoy it!
Cookie Monster:
Glad you enjoyed the cables Pistol Pete
AlienRik - I was a mains sceptic too but no longer. Far greater difference than i have seen from any video cable upgrade.
I like others will continue to enjoy my AV obsession without 'handbags at dawn' over kit. PistolPete asked a question and his question regards his kit was, in his case the correct answer.
Please, i enjoy these forums, don't expect to be dragged into a dispute based on my own findings and opinions.
Seriously, im more concerned that i am on here because i have seen little quality media of late to make it worth plugging my projector in.
I'll be the tall one at Manchester enjoying my first glimpses of exiting new kit, accesssories and general banter. Really looking forward to it and thought it may be nice to bump into some fellow forum users. I love WHF, forums and my hobby and really don't appreciate 'aggressive' types attacking myself and others.
Remember ' bumble bees shouldn't fly' but they do.
Just enjoy it!
Bumblebees flight of bumblebees is down to physics plain and simple.
An Oxford team trained bumblebees to travel from their hive to get pollen from cut flowers at one end of a wind tunnel. smoke was then blown across the tunnel as the bee passed by, this revealed vortices in the air which was recorded with high-speed
cameras taking up to 2000 images per second. Using these images the oxford team
were able to visualise the airflow over the flapping wings of the bumblebees.
The expression "bumblebees shouldn't be able to fly" was apparently based on
aerodynamic theory of 1918-19. The
theories back then said that bumblebee wings were too small to create
sufficient lift. But nowadays
aerodynamic theory has come alongway and scietist understand how different kinds of airflow can generate the necessary lift.
Glad you enjoyed the cables Pistol Pete
AlienRik - I was a mains sceptic too but no longer. Far greater difference than i have seen from any video cable upgrade.
I like others will continue to enjoy my AV obsession without 'handbags at dawn' over kit. PistolPete asked a question and his question regards his kit was, in his case the correct answer.
Please, i enjoy these forums, don't expect to be dragged into a dispute based on my own findings and opinions.
Seriously, im more concerned that i am on here because i have seen little quality media of late to make it worth plugging my projector in.
I'll be the tall one at Manchester enjoying my first glimpses of exiting new kit, accesssories and general banter. Really looking forward to it and thought it may be nice to bump into some fellow forum users. I love WHF, forums and my hobby and really don't appreciate 'aggressive' types attacking myself and others.
Remember ' bumble bees shouldn't fly' but they do.
Just enjoy it!
Bumblebees flight of bumblebees is down to physics plain and simple.
An Oxford team trained bumblebees to travel from their hive to get pollen from cut flowers at one end of a wind tunnel. smoke was then blown across the tunnel as the bee passed by, this revealed vortices in the air which was recorded with high-speed
cameras taking up to 2000 images per second. Using these images the oxford team
were able to visualise the airflow over the flapping wings of the bumblebees.
The expression "bumblebees shouldn't be able to fly" was apparently based on
aerodynamic theory of 1918-19. The
theories back then said that bumblebee wings were too small to create
sufficient lift. But nowadays
aerodynamic theory has come alongway and scietist understand how different kinds of airflow can generate the necessary lift.
heathpw:aliEnRIK:
Pistol Pete1:You single, by any chance?
Laugh I did
Are you married and have kids
Well although i find heathpw so in your face and so passionate about wanting to make us all sound like we dont know what where on about etc etc .. I kinda find him funny ! Love characters like you heathpw and now finding im looking forward to your relpies ha
Or maybe ive had to much coffee this morning hmmmmm
Pistol Pete1:You single, by any chance?
Laugh I did
Are you married and have kids
Well although i find heathpw so in your face and so passionate about wanting to make us all sound like we dont know what where on about etc etc .. I kinda find him funny ! Love characters like you heathpw and now finding im looking forward to your relpies ha
Or maybe ive had to much coffee this morning hmmmmm
heathpw....you added an article on here yesterday, I think, from an engineer....where did it go? I wanted to comment on it?
Finally, I had a mate over yesterday and gave him the 'blind test' with my old QED HDMI-P cable and the new Chord Active.....I also 'blind tested' him on plugging my receiver in the Tacima or directly into the wall socket.......here are the results.....
He preferred the receiver plugged into wall straight away. He said it sounded clearer with more detail and a natural sound. After which, I told him what I had done to improve it.
He guessed the Chord Active cable over the QED when using it with the blu ray player(dvd concert), and using freeview from my DVD recorder.......'colours are brighter and the picture has more detail'
He loved it so much, he has borrowed the Chord to test his tv, as he uses an older HDMI cable.....
I guess all three tests were just luck, though....right heathpw?
Finally, I had a mate over yesterday and gave him the 'blind test' with my old QED HDMI-P cable and the new Chord Active.....I also 'blind tested' him on plugging my receiver in the Tacima or directly into the wall socket.......here are the results.....
He preferred the receiver plugged into wall straight away. He said it sounded clearer with more detail and a natural sound. After which, I told him what I had done to improve it.
He guessed the Chord Active cable over the QED when using it with the blu ray player(dvd concert), and using freeview from my DVD recorder.......'colours are brighter and the picture has more detail'
He loved it so much, he has borrowed the Chord to test his tv, as he uses an older HDMI cable.....
I guess all three tests were just luck, though....right heathpw?
>>>sits and waits for heathpw....
Anyway, pistol pete, i found the results between the QED HDMI-P and QED silver reference, to be better, the reference produced a clearer sharper image more of a sparkle than that with the former.
And i once plugged my amp directly in the wall socket be preffered it through my olson mains block, seemed to of sounded a more fuller sound to me.
But, each to there own findings eh?
Anyway, pistol pete, i found the results between the QED HDMI-P and QED silver reference, to be better, the reference produced a clearer sharper image more of a sparkle than that with the former.
And i once plugged my amp directly in the wall socket be preffered it through my olson mains block, seemed to of sounded a more fuller sound to me.
But, each to there own findings eh?
i unplugged my amp from the surge protector and plugged it straight into the mains earlier this morning, and i actually do think it sounds better, cant be certain, but it does seem louder even though volume was the same, interesting..
cant say i notice any difference between my qed performance and cheapie hdmi cables though..
cant say i notice any difference between my qed performance and cheapie hdmi cables though..
Its a good job for me really that i preffered it best through my block as i now havnt a spare wall socket near my kit, mind you when i did plug it into the wall socket it was stretching my powerkord to the max it looked liked a little mini washing line from amp to wall, all i needed was a pair of socks on it and away you go.....
Suddenly this has turned into a civilised conversation....at last we can all offer findings and not be slammed for them....
Anyone tried the sub directly to wall socket? Meant to be a good thing to do too......
Anyone tried the sub directly to wall socket? Meant to be a good thing to do too......
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