HD player/disc problems

Andrew Everard

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Found a Blu-ray disc your shiny new player refuses to recognise? Or having trouble with some HD DVD titles and your hardware?

Use this thread to tell others which discs won't play on which machines, both Blu-ray and HD.
 
Top man Andrew, on the ball AND it's Saturday! Clare, overtime claim on it's way. He he.

Anyway, as I started this can of worms, here goes with my findings as of 8/12/2007.

Just for your information, my player report is now as follows:

SONY BDP-S301 so far plays everything I have tried so far without problems (1 month old player)

SONY BDP-S1 will not play "Cars" or "Die Hard 4". (6 months old)

LG BH-100 will not play "Cars", "Die Hard 4", "Fantastic Four/Silver Surfer" OR "28 Weeks Later". (3 months old)

PS3 plays everything I have tried so far.

Oldschool.
 
Legends of Jazz (blu-ray) Incorrectly authored batch means that some copies may not play on EU PS3's. LRSMedia will exchange offending disc.
 
A friends PS3 will play my copy of "Die Hard 4" on a Region A Blu-Ray disc, (his player is a UK Region B) but will NOT play his region 2 "Die Hard 4" DVD!, and his SONY BDP-S301 will NOT play a region-free disc. EH!!

So we swapped.

Is it true that William Hill will soon offer odds on what discs play on what players? Apparently LG bets are exempt because we already know THAT result.
 
the denon 1930 wont play any HD-DVD's according to some idiot?? lol
 
Here is a list for your information of Region A Blu-Ray discs and their compatability with Region B players.

Title,........ Studio,........ Plays in Region B Players?

16 Blocks Warner Yes..... 2001: A Space Odyssey Warner Yes..... 28 Days Later Fox No..... 28 Weeks Later Fox No..... 300 Warner Yes..... 50 First Dates Sony Yes..... AC/DC: Live at Donington Sony Yes..... Aeon Flux Paramount Yes..... Africa: The Serengeti (IMAX) Razor Yes..... Alaska: Spirit of the Wild (IMAX) Razor Yes..... Alexander Revisited Warner Yes..... Alien vs. Predator Fox No..... All the King's Men Sony No..... American Psycho Lionsgate No..... Annapolis Buena Vista No..... Ant Bully, The Warner Yes..... Antarctica: An Adventure of a Different Nature (IMAX) Razor Yes..... Apocalypto Buena Vista Yes..... Are We Done Yet? Sony No..... Arlington Road Sony Yes..... ATL Warner Yes..... Australia: Land Beyond Time (IMAX) Razor Yes..... Aviator, The Warner Yes..... Babel Paramount Yes..... Bad Santa Dimension No..... Basic Instinct Lionsgate No..... Basic Instinct 2 Sony No..... Battle of the Bulge Warner Yes..... Beerfest Warner Yes..... Behind Enemy Lines Fox No..... Beowulf & Grendell Starz Yes..... Big Fish Sony Yes..... Big Hit, The Sony Yes..... Bikini Destination Magnolia Yes..... Black Book Sony Yes..... Black Hawk Down Sony Yes..... Black Rain Paramount Yes..... Black Snake Moan Paramount Yes..... Blade Runner (5-disc Complete Collector's Edition) Warner Yes..... Blade Runner (5-disc Ultimate Collector's Edition) Warner Yes..... Blazing Saddles Warner Yes..... Blood and Chocolate Sony No..... Blood Diamond Warner Yes..... Blue Planet Warner Yes..... Bram Stoker's Dracula Sony Yes..... Bridge To Terabithia Disney Yes..... Broken Arrow Fox No..... Brothers Grimm Miramax (Disney) No..... Bruce Springsteen with the Sessions Band: Live in Dublin Sony Yes..... Bulletproof Monk MGM No..... Bullitt Warner Yes..... Cars Disney Yes..... Casanova Buena Vista No.... Casino Royale Sony No...... Cast Away Fox No..... Catch and Release Sony No..... Chain Reaction Fox No..... Chicago Buena Vista Yes..... Chicken Little Disney Yes..... Chronos R&B Films Yes..... Click Sony No..... Clockwork Orange, A Warner Yes..... Close Encounters of the Third Kind (30th Anniversary Ultimate Edition) Sony Yes..... Closer Sony Yes..... Coming to America Paramount Yes..... Commando Fox No..... Company, The Sony No..... Condemned, The Lionsgate No..... Corpse Bride Warner Yes..... Courage Under Fire Fox No..... Covenant, The Sony Yes..... Cowboys, The Warner Yes..... Crank Lionsgate No..... Crash Lionsgate Yes..... Cruel Intentions Sony Yes..... Curse of the Golden Flower Sony No.... Daddy's Little Girls Lionsgate No..... Dark Water Buena Vista No..... Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds: Live at Radio City Music Hall Lionsgate No..... David Gilmour: Remember That Night Sony BMG No..... Dawn of the Dead Starz Yes..... Day After Tomorrow, The Fox No..... Day of the Dead Starz Yes..... Deja Vu Buena Vista No..... Deliverance Warner Yes..... Delta Farce Lionsgate No..... Departed, The Warner Yes.... Descent, The Lionsgate Yes..... Destiny's Child: Live in Atlanta Sony Yes..... Devil's Rejects, The Lionsgate Yes..... Devil Wears Prada, The Fox No..... Die Hard Fox No..... Die Hard 2: Die Harder Fox No..... Die Hard Collection Fox No..... Die Hard With a Vengeance Fox No..... Dinosaur Buena Vista No..... Dirty Dancing (Anniversary Edition) Lionsgate No..... Dirty Dozen Warner Yes..... Discovery Atlas: Australia Revealed Discovery Channel Yes..... Discovery Atlas: Brazil Revealed Discovery Channel Yes..... Discovery Atlas: China Revealed Discovery Channel Yes..... Discovery Atlas: Italy Revealed Discovery Channel Yes..... District B13 Magnolia Yes.... Disturbia Dreamworks Yes..... Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme Lionsgate Yes..... Dog Day Afternoon Warner Yes..... Donnie Brasco (Extended Cut) Sony Yes..... Dragonball Z: Broly Double Feature Funimation Yes.... Dreamgirls Dreamworks Yes..... Edward Scissorhands Fox No..... Eight Below Disney No..... Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Live in Memphis Eagle Vision Yes..... Employee of the Month Liongate No..... Enemy of the State Buena Vista No..... Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room Magnolia Yes..... Enter the Dragon Warner Yes..... Entrapment Fox No.... Eragon Fox No..... Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn Starz Yes.... Eyes Wide Shut Warner Yes..... Face/Off Buena Vista Yes..... Failure to Launch Paramount Yes.... Fantastic Four Fox No..... Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer Fox No..... Few Good Men, A Sony Yes...... Fifth Element, The Sony Yes (see note 1)...... Fifth Element, The (Remastered) Sony Yes...... Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within Sony Yes...... Finding Neverland Buena Vista Yes....... Firewall Warner Yes...... First Blood Lionsgate Yes..... Flags of our Fathers Dreamworks Yes...... Flatliners Sony Yes..... Flight of the Phoenix Fox No....... Flightplan Disney No...... Fly, The Fox No..... Flyboys MGM No....... Fountain, The Warner Yes....... Four Brothers Paramount Yes..... Freedom Writers Paramount Yes..... From Hell Fox No...... Fugitive, The Warner Yes...... Full Metal Jacket Warner Yes....... Full Metal Jacket (Deluxe Edition) Warner Yes....... G.I. Jane Buena Vista Yes....... Galapagos BBC Warner Yes....... Getaway, The Warner Yes...... Ghost Rider Sony No....... Glory Road Disney No...... Goal! The Dream Begins Buena Vista No...... Gods and Generals Warner Yes..... Gone in 60 Seconds Disney No..... Good Night and Good Luck Warner Yes...... Goodfellas Warner Yes...... Gothika Warner Yes...... Great Raid, The Miramax (Disney) No..... Gridiron Gang, The Sony Yes...... Guardian, The Buena Vista No...... Hairspray New Line No..... Halloween Starz Yes..... Happy Feet Warner Yes...... Happy N'Ever After Lionsgate No...... Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Warner Yes...... Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Warner Yes..... Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Warner Yes....... Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Warner Yes...... Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Warner Yes...... Harry Potter Years 1-5 Limited Edition Gift Set Warner Yes..... Hart's War Fox No...... HDNet World Report - Shuttle Discovery's Historic Mission Magnolia Yes...... Hellboy Sony Yes....... High School Musical 2 Disney No.... Hills Have Eyes 2, The: Unrated Fox No..... Hitch Sony Yes..... Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Buena Vista Yes..... Holiday, The Sony No..... Hollow Man (Director's Cut) Sony Yes..... Hoosiers MGM No..... Host, The Magnolia Yes...... Hostel: Director's Cut Sony Yes...... Hostel: Part II Sony No..... House of 1000 Corpses Lionsgate No..... House of Flying Daggers Sony Yes..... House of Wax Warner Yes...... Hustle & Flow Paramount Yes....... I Know Who Killed Me Sony No...... Ice Age 2: The Meltdown Fox No..... Identity Sony Yes...... Immortal Beloved Sony Yes...... Incubus - Alive at Red Rocks Sony Yes..... Into The Blue Sony Yes..... Invincible Disney No..... Invisible, The Disney No..... Italian Job, The Paramount Yes..... Jailhouse Rock Warner Yes..... Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back Disney No..... King Arthur (Director's Cut) Buena Vista No..... King of New York Lionsgate No..... Kingdom of Heaven Fox No..... Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang Warner Yes..... Kiss of the Dragon Fox No..... Knights Tale, A Sony Yes..... Kung Fu Hustle Sony Yes..... Ladder 49 Buena Vista Yes..... Lake House, The Warner Yes..... Last Samurai, The Warner Yes..... Layer Cake Sony Yes..... League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Fox No..... Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains the Same Warner Yes..... Legend of Zorro Sony Yes..... Legends of Jazz Showcase LRS Media Yes (see note 2)..... Lethal Weapon Warner Yes..... Lethal Weapon 2 Warner Yes..... Letters from Iwo Jima Warner Yes..... License to Wed Warner Yes..... Little Man Sony No..... Live Free or Die Hard (Die Hard 4.0) Fox No..... Lives Of Others, The Sony No..... Lookout, The Miramax (Disney) No..... Lord of War Lionsgate Yes..... Lost: The Complete Third Season Disney No..... Manchurian Candidate, The Paramount Yes..... March of the Penguins Warner Yes..... Marine, The Fox No..... Masters of Horror: Season 1 Volume 1 Starz Yes..... Masters of Horror: Season 1 Volume 2 Starz Yes..... Masters of Horror: Season 1 Volume 3 Starz Yes..... Masters of Horror: Season 1 Volume 4
Starz Yes..... Meet The Robinsons Disney No..... Memento Sony Yes..... Memoirs of a Geisha Sony Yes..... Men of Honor Fox No..... Messengers, The Sony No..... Million Dollar Baby Warner Yes.... Mission: Impossible Paramount Yes..... Mission: Impossible II Paramount Yes..... Mission: Impossible III Paramount Yes..... Monster House Sony No..... Monty Python's Life of Brian: The Immaculate Edition Sony Yes..... Mr. & Mrs. Smith Fox No..... Mr. Brooks MGM No..... Music and Lyrics Warner Yes..... Nacho Libre Paramount Yes..... National Geographic - Relentless Enemies Warner Yes..... National Lampoon's Van Wilder: Unrated Lionsgate Yes..... Nature's Colors Concert Hot Spot Yes..... Nature's Journey R & B Films Yes..... Night at the Museum Fox No..... Nine Inch Nails Live: Beside You in Time Interscope Yes..... ***/Tuck: The Complete Fourth Season Warner Yes..... Norbit Dreamworks Yes..... Ocean's Thirteen Warner Yes..... Ocean's Trilogy Box Set Warner Yes..... Oldboy: 2-disc Edition Tartan Yes (see note 4)..... Omen, The Fox No..... Open Season Sony No..... Out for Justice Warner Yes..... Pathfinder Fox No..... Patriot, The (Extended Cut) Sony Yes..... Payback - Straight Up (Directors Cut) Paramount Yes..... Pearl Harbor Buena Vista Yes..... Perfect Stranger, The Sony No..... Phantom of the Opera, The Warner Yes..... Phone Booth Fox No..... Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Disney No..... Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl Buena Vista Yes..... Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead man's Chest Buena Vista Yes..... Pixar Short Films Collection: Volume 1 Disney Yes..... Planet Earth BBC Warner Yes..... Planet Of The Apes Fox No..... Polar Express, The Warner Yes..... Polar Express, The Warner Yes..... Premonition Sony No..... Prestige, The Buena Vista . No..... Primeval Buena Vista No..... Prison Break: Season 1 Fox No..... Punisher, The Lionsgate Yes..... Purple Rain Warner Yes..... Pursuit of Happyness, The Sony No..... Queen, The Buena Vista No..... Ratatouille Disney No..... Reaping, The Warner Yes..... Reds (25th Anniversary Edition) Paramount Yes..... Reign of Fire Buena Vista Yes..... Reign Over Me Sony No..... Remember the Titans Buena Vista Yes..... Replacement Killers, The (Extended Cut) Sony Yes..... Rescue Dawn MGM No..... Rescue Me: The Complete Third Season Sony Yes..... Reservoir Dogs (15th Anniversary) Lionsgate No..... Resident Evil: Apocalypse Sony Yes...... Return to House on Haunted Hill Warner Yes...... Revenge (Unrated Director's Cut) Sony Yes...... Rio Bravo Warner Yes....... Rising Sun Fox No...... Road Warrior, The Warner Yes........ Robocop MGM No....... Rocky MGM No........ Rocky Balboa Sony No...... Room With a View, A BBC Warner Yes....... Roving Mars Disney No....... Rumor Has It Warner Yes....... Running with Scissors Sony No....... RV Sony Yes...... S.W.A.T. Sony Yes....... Sahara Paramount Yes..... Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause Disney No....... SAW Lionsgate Yes....... SAW II Lionsgate Yes...... SAW III Lionsgate No..... Scanner Darkly, A Warner Yes..... Searchers, The Warner Yes..... Secret Window Sony Yes..... Sentinel, The Fox No..... Seven Years In Tibet Sony Yes..... Shakira: Oral Fixation Tour Sony Yes...... Shining, The (Special Edition) Warner Yes...... Shooter Paramount Yes..... Silent Hill Sony Yes...... Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow Paramount Yes...... Sky High Disney No....... Sleepy Hollow Paramount Yes....... Smallville - The Complete Sixth Season Warner Yes....... Sopranos, The - Season 6 Part 1 HBO Yes...... Sopranos, The - Season 6 Part 2 HBO Yes...... Space Cowboys Warner Yes...... Species MGM Yes...... Speed Fox No....... Spiderman - The High-definition Trilogy Sony No (see note 5)...... Spiderman 3 Sony No...... Stargate Lionsgate Yes...... Stealth Sony Yes...... Stir of Echoes Lionsgate Yes...... Stomp The Yard Sony No...... Stranger Than Fiction Sony No...... Superbad Sony No....... Superman II: (The Richard Donner Cut) Warner Yes....... Superman Returns Warner Yes....... Superman: The Movie Warner Yes....... Surf's Up Sony No...... Swordfish Warner Yes...... Syriana Warner Yes....... Tailor of Panama, The Sony Yes (see note 3)........ Talladega Nights Sony No........ Tears of the Sun Sony Yes....... Tekkon Kinkreet Sony No........ Terminator, The MGM Yes....... Terminator 2 Lionsgate Yes....... TMNT Warner Yes...... Tomb Raider Paramount Yes........ Tony Bennett - An American Classic Sony BMG Yes........ Total Recall Lionsgate Yes........ Toto - Live In Amsterdam (25th Anniversary) Eagle Vision Yes....... Trading Places Paramount Yes........ Training Day Warner Yes....... Transporter, The Fox No....... Transporter 2, The Fox No....... Troy: The Director's Cut Warner Yes...... Twilight Zone: The Movie Warner Yes....... U2: Rattle & Hum Paramount Yes....... Ultimate Avengers Collection Lionsgate Yes....... Ultraviolet Sony Yes........ Under Siege Warner Yes...... Underdog Disney No....... Underworld (Unrated) Sony .. Yes....... Underworld: Evolution Sony Yes....... Unforgiven Warner Yes...... Untouchables, The Paramount Yes........ Usual Suspects, The MGM No....... Vacancy Sony No........ Vertical Limit Sony Yes....... View from Space With Heavenly Music, A Concert Hot Spot Yes........ Viva Las Vegas Warner Yes....... Volver Sony No....... Waiting. (Unrated and Raw) Lionsgate Yes....... War Within, The Magnolia Yes........ Warriors of Heaven and Earth Sony Yes....... Warriors, The (Director's Cut) Paramount Yes....... We Are Marshall Warner Yes....... Weeds: Season One Lionsgate Yes....... Weeds: Season Two Lionsgate Yes....... Wicker Man, The Warner Yes....... Wild Bunch, The Warner Yes....... Wild Hogs Disney No....... Wild Things (Unrated Edition) Sony Yes........ Wild, The Disney No........ Windtalkers MGM No....... World's Fastest Indian, The Magnolia Yes....... World Trade Center Paramount Yes....... Wyatt Earp Warner Yes....... X-Men III: The Last Stand Fox No....... xXx Sony Yes....... Young Guns Lionsgate Yes

Notes: 1) Contact the publisher for an exchange. 2) The original batch of these discs were authored incorrectly and will not work on EU PS3s. Contact the publisher (LRS media) for an exchange. 3) This has been marked as region-locked in several places, but appears to be region-free. 4) The movie disc is region-free, but the extras discs is region-locked. 5) The first two movies are region-free, but the third is region-locked.

Hope this helps,

if this info has been of use to you please reply to keep the post "live" for other Blu-Ray users, thanks,

Gerry.
 
Hi

I have built a media pc as I wait to see if any format wins.

I use a Pioneer BD rom and an xbox 360 hd dvd drive and I am pleased to say I have had no Issues playing anything. Both Blu ray and Hd dvd look great on my Hitachi pd 9700, and I would say Hd is probably slightly better (to my eyes).

My friend has a samsung Blu ray and has had trouble playing james bond and De JA vu, he thought it was the discs but when we put them in mine they worked ok, Also our local Blockbuster has had a lot of people coming back with Blu ray discs that will not play.
 
Maybe we've been lucky, but all 20 of our BDs play on our Samsung BD-P1400. Our collection is from the following studios/labels....

20th Century Fox, MGM/Columbia, Touchstone, Disney, Warner Bothers, Columbia Records, Disney Pixar, Mercury Records, Columbia Tristar, DVD International, New Line Cinema and Eagle Vision.

Two discs, Cars and The Polar Express are from the US, but are not regionally coded.

Recently, we purchased the BD of Rush Hour 3 (double disc UK version). There is an optional enhanced visual commentary by the directors. This amounts to a picture in picture commentary. We have been lead to believe that this type of feature was reserved for BD profile 1.1 and HD-DVD only. We'll the BD-P1400 is only profile 1.0 and this feature works faultlessly! We rarely watch films with the directors commentary, but the picture in picture option, for us anyway is much more useful! Well done New Line Cinema!

Another well done New Line Cinema for the breathtaking DTS-HD 7.1 audio! Being brought up on DD/DTS 5.1 (both excellent), we were sceptical about supposedly better audio formats! Now we've sampled them in their full glory, it's a hearty recommendation from us!

Does this mean that for PIP, profile 1.1 isn't necessary after all? All the hype and all existing BD players will play the feature!?
 
[quote user="david1997"]

Legends of Jazz (blu-ray) Incorrectly authored batch means that some copies may not play on EU PS3's. LRSMedia will exchange offending disc.

[/quote]

Hi, i did have the same problem, i bought through ebay a blu-ray region 2 legends of jazz, and it doesnït play in my PS3.

iïve visited lrsmedia site, but they donït have any email contact, and besides that they are located in US(im from portugal ).

does anyone knows how that exchange is made? how can i contact them?

thanks in advance for the help

regards

tiago
 
Sorry Tiago,

Trying to get someone to actually refund or exchange anything to do with a faulty Blu-ray item is an uphill struggle. Looks like you have a new table mat!

Gerry.
 
Well, here we are now almost in February and I still do not have my LG player functional. Have been waiting 2 weeks again for some further response from LG but nothing as yet.

So we can now add The Day After Tomorrow as a non playing disc in my LG. (No sound/continually dropping out)

I have now OWNED my LG Blu-ray player 6 months but only had it in my possession 4 weeks, not bad eh!

Gerry.
 
my HD-A3 did not recognize "dreamgirls" rented from my local video club. so i ordered it from netflix and will see if it does it again.
 
yep!!! the netflix copy of dreamgirls arrived and went back but first i was able to enjoy it. so the first time was a disc glitch and not a problem with the HD-A3.
 
[quote user="niftynigel"]

Recently, we purchased the BD of Rush Hour 3 (double disc UK version). There is an optional enhanced visual commentary by the directors. This amounts to a picture in picture commentary. We have been lead to believe that this type of feature was reserved for BD profile 1.1 and HD-DVD only. We'll the BD-P1400 is only profile 1.0 and this feature works faultlessly! We rarely watch films with the directors commentary, but the picture in picture option, for us anyway is much more useful! Well done New Line Cinema!

Does this mean that for PIP, profile 1.1 isn't necessary after all? All the hype and all existing BD players will play the feature!?

[/quote]

Have read about lots of problems with the bd-p1400 not playing a host of uk blu-rays, let alone others - but apparently all fixed with a firmware update. I have got mine with the latest firmware and have had no problems as yet...

With regard to 1.0/1.1, is it not possible to upgrade a player from 1.0 to 1.1 via a firmware upgrade? This player has got a built in ethernet, or you can download/burn to disc etc... Read something last night that suggested to be 1.1 the player would need flash memory which would obviously rule this theory out - just wondering if someone could clarify?
 
It's taken 35 Blu-rays (incl four US Blu-rays) and we have finally found one that won't play on the Samsung BD-P1400!

Ratatouille (Disney Pixar) was delivered this morning. It's not officially released until Monday, so the positive turned negative when the player just keeps reading the disc, but won't play.

We only have firmware 1.1 - Samsung advice is not to download updates unless you are having problems or there was a specific extra feature being offered (e.g. F/W 1.1 adding DTS-HD Master Audio).

Firmware update 1.5 came after the US release of Ratatouille, so it maybe OK for the UK release too?

We will add F/W 1.5 and see what happens. We'll let you know or what Samsung / Disney have to say!

On the issue over the BD-P1400, like all existing Profile 1.0 players (except PS3) it's not possible to upgrade the player to Profile 1.1 as there is not physical 256MB of internal *cache type* memory (or something like that). The PS3 does have that type of memory and as such can be upgraded to Profile 1.1 and 2.0 eventually. However the PS3 does lack 5.1 analogue phono outputs, so unless you have an HDMI equipped amplifier/receiver, you can't enjoy HD audio or 5.1 PCM audio for that matter!
 
We'll the good news is that after loading firmware update 1.5 for the Samsung BD-P1400, Ratatouille (Disney Pixar) now plays. There is a warning at the beginning of the disc that states that it could take two to three minutes for the disc to load, but in the event, it wasn't anywhere near as long as that!

The downside is that after a firmware update, all the settings in the player have gone back to the factory defaults! That means digital outputs converted to PCM. Not a problem for Ratatouille as Disney encoded an excellent PCM 5.1 EX soundtrack!

That's taken care of the family for 111 minutes whilst I write this amongst other things!
 
And again there you have it, the all well-known problems with blu-ray. I'm extremely happy I bought the Tosh EP35 HD DVD player with brilliant specs and performance for a very low price and oh yeah, it plays all my HD DVD's (over 30 at the moment) with not a single problem.
 
Haven't had a single problem playing any Blu-Ray discs on my PS3 either so it's not problems with Blu-Ray, just certain manufacturers players and new BD discs. In my experience, these inevitably they get fixed with firmware upgrades so it's not really an issue (NB - this isn't true for all players though as someone has pointed out to me later on. Moral of the story, do your research before buying a player to ensure it's not having problems with discs and, if it has, whether these have been fixed with a firmware patch). It's a lot better situation than for the poor people who bought the first DVD players...
 
I had a problem with Jarhead on HDDVD last night; kept struggling to load. It was a rented copy so may just have been damaged, but I couldn't see and scratches/dirt on the disc.
 
I have an hdep30 and so far have had no problems at all,well happy,even though some people think we should sell our players and discs now Toshiba have given up.
 
Well I keep looking at hd and have been waiting for the battle over format to be resolved ,but it seems like my wait even though the format wars are over will still go on until the format itself is sorted..... if what I read on here is true.

Just like the Beta/VHS wars of the 80,s was won by the inferior system is this the case now? and if this is the case would it not be funny if Sony's better system failed then but its inferior one won now.

Can someone please re-assure me the right guy won.
 

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