Have Audiolab any chance of reviving their amplifier glory days?

[SteveR750]

Useful if you live on a large estate and like listening al fresco in the bottom field. It's alos frequency dependent, since most speakers impedance changes with frequency, so  higher figure means less tonal changes with different speaker impedance profiles. Make mine a caramel latte Vlad!

Pro power amps have very high DF (in thousands) just so they can breach long distances without much affecting the original FR. These are distances of sometimes 50m-100m. For domestic amps the old pro amp trick to get higher DF is to use smaller filter caps in the PSU but in larger numbers paralleled so they reduce the impedance. The Exposure 1010s2 and Creek Evo 50A employ this trick at the budget level, which is a sign of good design.?

 

Yes, but can they make good coffee?

 

[Rethep]

Here.

It's not as cut and dried as the marketing men would have us all believe.

http://www.butleraudio.com/damping1.php

Thanks to all of you commenting on my post. It shows this is an interesting subject!

Very clear articles! Thx.

I think a modest (priced) tube-amp has a damping factor of around 5, with 8 ohm speakers. With 4 ohm speakers that would be 2,5 ! Mine has about 10 i think. I will ask the manufacturer.

The speakers i have are open baffle type, which makes them somewhat compareble to panel-speakers. The bass is less tight than the average (bass-reflex) speaker (stronger than panels!) but will (depending on room-acoustics) never 'boom'. The bass sounds very natural and 'free'. It's impedance is straight 8 ohm on the complete freq. spectrum. So they are very well suited to tube amplification.

In all other area' s it is the best sound i have ever heard! (I don' t mean to brag about it, i'm just very very excited about my set).

Interested ? Take a look at manufacturers site: http://www.hayendaudio.nl/en/

 

[Andrewjvt]

Just because a forum post regarding audiolab has somehow changed to a hegel damping factor of 4000 post ill just say that hegel designs amps to have as little distortion or noise/alteration of the original signal being fed in. They design amps slightly different and use sound engine. Because of this the damping factor is very high. They dont design the amp with an extreem high damping factor in mind but rather not adding distortion or changing the signal.

Now we all know that all you really need is a much lower damping factor and 4000 or even 1000 on the sound engine one amps seems far excessive.

If you want an auto explanation its like using your 4x4 to go to sainsburys
Lol

Also to note is a very high damping factor will not change the sound of the music by 'over damping the speakers' thats a myth but one that i also thought true until i listened to the 360

But forgetting the specs and factors etc etc for one min and sit back and listen to the music being played the bass definition and contol will impress anyone who really loves and understands music.

As for audiolab getting back to the old days. The only product id consider is the new cd player and the mdac. although there has been a lot of quality control complaints lately.
Dont like the look of the amps but ive never heard one so its down to the way i feel rather than experienced.

 

[SteveR750]

Indeed, you can't "overdampen" the driver. It either over shoots the waveform or it doesn't, as a result of its own inertia. Failing to move sufficiently to follow the waveform in the first place is a completely different form of distortion.

 

[Andrewjvt]

Indeed, you can't "overdampen" the driver. It either over shoots the waveform or it doesn't, as a result of its own inertia. Failing to move sufficiently to follow the waveform in the first place is a completely different form of distortion.

some may even prefer this as used to it

And its all good as long as the musics sounds good to whoever is listening