Good Stand Mount Speakers and Amp for Electronic Music?

[matt49]

Jeez Dave. So you hooked me up with a pair of overly bright speakers that only work well up close. I might need to search for something different then...

He used to sell hi-fi, you know.

 

[Esra]

Well then go for the Adam,np with that,why should I? :cheers: Just my experience with them heaving heard several active speakers.

Yeah the opals are better than JBL but sorry, they are def. not worth min. 5 times more the price,instead pretty good for the money,as the Makie are.The JBL have the biggest sweetspot in distance,might to consider if you want to use for hifi.

 

[Broner]

Jeez Dave. So you hooked me up with a pair of overly bright speakers that only work well up close. I might need to search for something different then...

He used to sell hi-fi, you know.

And as we all know, you can never really quit. It's like the CIA, but then with different wardrobes.

 

[Overdose]

As another option, if wanting to top out your budget, the Quested S8Rs could be had for under £2k (the S7Rs even less), leaving some spare for a DAC/Pre.

I think I'd still want to get a listen to the ADMs though, as you would'nt need anything else, plus have plenty of cash left over for music or whatever your poison is.

 

[davedotco]

The OP may like techno, but he might like it played through a smooth warn conventional hi-fi setup. We really do not know. Until we do, we are talking in general terms.

I have stated my position on this many times, the kind of price points we are talking about and for a lot of modern music I much prefer the active options over conventional amp/speaker. It is just that the strengths of good active systems seem to suit certain styles of music, simple as that.

Like all audio equipment, there will be good and not so good examples and products deliberately designed to suit particular styles and tastes, just being 'active' does not guarantee a good speaker.

 

[CnoEvil]

The OP may like techno, but he might like it played through a smooth warn conventional hi-fi setup. We really do not know. Until we do, we are talking in general terms.

Totally agree.

 

[matthewpiano]

If I was to go over to actives at some point then I think I would more than likely go straight for some AVIs. Would have to audition them properly, but I just get the feeling Ashley and Martin know what they are doing and have managed to produce a domestic friendly active speaker.

 

[Vladimir]

For electronic dance music (think Chicago, Detroit, NYC) you want speakers that are powerfull, clean and with large output. Portraying microdetail like the timbral accuracy of reeds and wires strung or color of vocals is of secondary importance. However, electronic music (think Darmstadt or Columbia–Princeton) is different and you want speakers equally good for classical music, including even the immaculate capability to comb through the congestion of tutti.

 

[steve_1979]

As another option, if wanting to top out your budget, the Quested S8Rs could be had for under £2k (the S7Rs even less), leaving some spare for a DAC/Pre.

I think I'd still want to get a listen to the ADMs though, as you would'nt need anything else, plus have plenty of cash left over for music or whatever your poison is.

+1

In the OP's situation I'd be auditioning the Event Opal, Quested SR8, Genelec 8050A and the AVI ADM9 with the AVI subwoofer.

 

[JMac]

lol, looks like I'm going to have to put a few weekends asside and source some places that have stock. I live close to Leeds so I should be able to find somewhere nearby. If it helps, and for those aware of the artists, DJ's typical of my preference would be Sasha, John Digweed, Dave Seaman and the ilk. But add to that some house music from the likes of Graeme Parke but then also techno from Dave Clarke.

As for delivery style I think I'd tend to lean to sharp, accurate and fast delivery with tight control but not overly bright. I love a wide soundstage and being able to place exactly where the track artist is intending the sound to come from in front of you.

I have to be honest and say that I do struggle with the industrial design of the monitor/pro grade equipment and whilst I accept it should be function over form, looking at speakers suc has KEF R300's or B&W CDM1, they're simply gorgeous just as objects.

 

[davedotco]

lol, looks like I'm going to have to put a few weekends asside and source some places that have stock. I live close to Leeds so I should be able to find somewhere nearby. If it helps, and for those aware of the artists, DJ's typical of my preference would be Sasha, John Digweed, Dave Seaman and the ilk. But add to that some house music from the likes of Graeme Parke but then also techno from Dave Clarke.

As for delivery style I think I'd tend to lean to sharp, accurate and fast delivery with tight control but not overly bright. I love a wide soundstage and being able to place exactly where the track artist is intending the sound to come from in front of you.

I have to be honest and say that I do struggle with the industrial design of the monitor/pro grade equipment and whilst I accept it should be function over form, looking at speakers suc has KEF R300's or B&W CDM1, they're simply gorgeous just as objects.

What about volume levels and the way they will be used, do you expect to take advantage of high output capability or is that really not an issue?

 

[JMac]

How do you gauge volume without moving into dB(A)? They'll never be used for a party but I have been known to crank it a little higher than normal when nobody is home.

 

[gasolin]

These speakers , adam not enough bass (A7X) to much bass (A8X) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ZXT_XZs04

 

[Overdose]

Your requirements are narrowing down your choices, still the ADM9s would be perfect and 90s techno/trance has a large presence in my collection. I certainly have no issue over how they perform.

 

[davedotco]

How do you gauge volume without moving into dB(A)? They'll never be used for a party but I have been known to crank it a little higher than normal when nobody is home.

If that is the case then your power requirements will be quite modest. Turning up the volume in a normal hi-fi situation will not be an issue, you have ample power for that with most of the options in this thread.

The thing that a lot of enthusiasts do not understand is the power needed when you step outside the normal hi-fi situation. Get a few people in a room, chatting, having a good time and the power requirements quickly go through the roof, for all kinds of reasons, but if this is not going to happen that makes things a lot easier.

The latest ADM9RS (£1250) is a fine solution, built in dac/preamp providing you have a Toslink out on your computer. If you want to extend the bass there is a superb matching subwoofer (£800) or a BK for about half that cost.

This will still go pretty loud by hi-fi standards, no problems if you want to wind it up a bit.

 

[Overdose]

This will still go pretty loud by hi-fi standards, no problems if you want to wind it up a bit.

I pushed my BM5s to clipping and they were plenty loud enough, I did try my current speakers to achieve a similar volume, but for the sake of neighbourly relations, wound them back before I noticed them getting out of shape. As with all speakers their output will seem relative to the room that they are used in, but I would agree that the OP would be unlikely to have any volume problems with most of the suggestions.
A traditional hifi aesthetic does limit choice somewhat though.

 

[Vladimir]

Topping TP32 Class T (TA2024B) Digital Amplifier with USB-DAC - £103.25

JBL LS80BG - £2198

100dB SPL combination gentlemen. Good luck beating that for sound per pound.

 

[JMac]

The traditional hifi aesthetic isnt essential but I wold prefer speakers that are nice to look at in a room if possible but as I say, not essential, The RS's do have that in their advantage but I'm sure I could get used to the look of the Events or similar black cased monitors.

 

[davedotco]

The traditional hifi aesthetic isnt essential but I wold prefer speakers that are nice to look at in a room if possible but as I say, not essential, The RS's do have that in their advantage but I'm sure I could get used to the look of the Events or similar black cased monitors.

If you want something quite smart, elegant even but with the presence and punch of active monitors, look at these........

Adam Artist 6, floorstanding obviously but elegant with a smallish footprint. Piano Black or white, with grills.

Fully active, 3 x 35 watts (rms) per speaker, tight punchy and easily loud enough. About £1k pair, good value.

 

[Esra]

OFT

Guys what you think of B&M active speakers?I heard good things about them but never interested in them to much because they are quite expensive and over my budget.Anybody have experience with them?

http://www.backesmueller.de/bm/de/pdf/products/prime/Prime-Serie-en.pdf

http://www.backesmueller.de/bm/en/index.htm

 

[Vladimir]

That is just pure German Hi-End, something like Meridian in UK. They lick your soul and transcend your mind to dimensions far far away. I heard a massive pair of old B&M floorstanders couple of years ago and I was stunned.