Do B&W 602s3's count as 2010+? Not sure when they stopped making them. Had mine since cca 2001 now with 2 crumpled twitters and 1 crumpled mid range cone. Asked my son at the weekend what he was thinking of all those years ago (he is now 24). Had the grills back on since then. Apparently the sound is not effected but am not so sure.Think you could add chord qutest to the list for modern DAC. Tannoy legacy speakers, jbl classics, klipsch heritage range, anything Sugden, any thing luxman the usual suspects.
Modern classics hummmmm always hard to tell but I'm starting to see speakers and amps on ebay go for more than what i bought them for new 20 years ago (extending your time frame i don't think 10 years is long enough)
So
NAD c320BEE starting to go double what i payed for it
the bigger brother c370 same
Marantz PM7200 especially the KI sig version
Mission 700 series the 701,2 and especially the 3's
B&W 602 s3 (good luck finding them without crumpled twitters)
some rotels 01, 02, 04
Wish i kept hold of some my stuff.
Think you could add chord qutest to the list for modern DAC. Tannoy legacy speakers, jbl classics, klipsch heritage range, anything Sugden, any thing luxman the usual suspects.
Modern classics hummmmm always hard to tell but I'm starting to see speakers and amps on ebay go for more than what i bought them for new 20 years ago (extending your time frame i don't think 10 years is long enough)
So
NAD c320BEE starting to go double what i payed for it
the bigger brother c370 same
Marantz PM7200 especially the KI sig version
Mission 700 series the 701,2 and especially the 3's
B&W 602 s3 (good luck finding them without crumpled twitters)
some rotels 01, 02, 04
Wish i kept hold of some my stuff.
The Missions don't count do they? Manufactured 1998.Do B&W 602s3's count as 2010+? Not sure when they stopped making them. Had mine since cca 2001 now with 2 crumpled twitters and 1 crumpled mid range cone. Asked my son at the weekend what he was thinking of all those years ago (he is now 24). Had the grills back on since then. Apparently the sound is not effected but am not so sure.
The Missions don't count do they? Manufactured 1998.
Same for PM7200 as I used to own one.
Did you perhaps miss the 2010+ specification?
Perhaps some of these were still in production then I don't know.
Do B&W 602s3's count as 2010+? Not sure when they stopped making them. Had mine since cca 2001 now with 2 crumpled twitters and 1 crumpled mid range cone. Asked my son at the weekend what he was thinking of all those years ago (he is now 24). Had the grills back on since then. Apparently the sound is not effected but am not so sure.
Missed that, I just read your list.... apologiesYeah, i started i added 10 more years to make it truly modern classics. Some were in production till 2010 in various forms and some still are BW's now of version 1000, aren't they.
I bought the pm7200 in 2004 when I was at uni ( but i think they also had another model older beforehand) i still have the WHF mag with the test in, paired with mission 780s (another modern classic), missions where still about in 2000 as I got mine as a gift when i left school
Then again, there are products which…I would hope that anything that Ken Ishiwata put his name to would become classic.
And there is the relevant point.Thing is there is a decent chance that in 20 years turntables, amps, speakers and even CD players will still be functional in 10 or 20 years time. I still have a working cassette deck from 1990, for instance.
The question in my mind would be around streamers and other connected devices. Would a 20 years old streamer still have app support? Would the internet radio provider still be around?
And there is the relevant point.
Look at any true 'classic' from the past.
It has to be durable enough to stand the test of time.
All its functions must still be able to work.
Think about some of today's products......40 years later.
There are people who think 9 years is a good life for a product - I'm not one of those people.
The single most influential past classic has to be the original NAD 3020.For that kind of perspective, why don't we recall WHF's Andy Madden recently naming 14 legends:
14 of the most legendary hi-fi products of all time
Iconic hi-fi from years gone bywww.whathifi.com
The single most influential past classic has to be the original NAD 3020.
I would agree the Petit could become a classic as it is extremely good at what it does and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.The European Audio Team (EAT) products seem to be universally praised.
I can't speak for the Jo 5 or Jo 8 cartridges, but I have personal knowledge of both the E GLO Petit and E GLO S phono stages.
Both sound incredible and in the case of the Petit particularly, punches well above its weight.
That might be the case with the higher end stuff but I demoed the PM-7001KI years ago and it was underwhelming.I would hope that anything that Ken Ishiwata put his name to would become classic.