Faulty Roksan Kandy LIII amp - anyone else?

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Tractorboy I really feel for you. This whole saga has been an absolute disgrace and it most be so deflating after parting with a significant amount of money to be able to enjoy your music.

Keep us all posted. I hope one of the 3 parties involved does the decent thing.
 
tractorboy:
So, the saga continues. I got back home today and unpacked the amp to find that it has been quite badly damaged - badly enough for me not to want to even try plugging it in to see if it actually works.

Because of the huge amount of faffing about which it has taken me to get to this stage, I have written to all three parties, Audio Affair, Henley designs and Roksan, to ask that they sort this out either by replacing the amp with a new one, or by giving me a full refund for both amp and the matching CD player - they were sold as one item as the double pack.

I've asked that this is sorted by the end of the week, since I'm sick and tired of the whole thing. I'll let you know how it ends.

I really feel for you mate,one (or all) of the parties involved need to step in quickly and get this sorted to YOUR satisfaction and then they can argue about liability among themselves. One thing is for sure and that is it is not your fault.Good luck
 
yep had same sort of problem sent mine back twice lost sound twice got it sorted but takes about 6 weeks to get it back.
 
We have been in contact with the dealer and asked that they resolve this situation efficiently and keep us updated. It would appear that the unit was damaged in transit from their offices to the customer and we are not in a position to intervene with the dealer's couriers. We will, however, ensure that this is dealt with effectively.
 
So, another week goes by and this issue is still unresolved, much to my disgust. I shall be writing to everyone yet again.
 
Hi mate
Have you had no info at all? From Henleys earlier reply I fear this is turning into a blame game.IMO the customer should come first and the parties behind the scenes should sort it amongst themselves.Again IMO what should have been a fairly simple job of collect,repair,return has turned into such a PITA that I and probably other members of this forum would be wary of buying Roksan kit again.I must state again that my personal experience of Henley/Roksan was excellent but in your case it is somewhat "lacking"
 
Dear Audio Affair (copied to Henley and Roksan),

Here is what has happened in the last week:

Monday: Henley emailed me to request pictures of the damage to the box, which I provided.

Tuesday: You phoned me and offered to replace the amplifier with a new K2 model as the LIII is no longer in production. You then emailed me a link so that I could have a look at the amp's spec. I emailed you straight back, accepting your offer and requested that you pick up the damaged amp and deliver the new amp on Friday.

Friday: You emailed and phoned me to ask why I hadn't responded to your offer. I explained that I had in fact done this (my email was appended to the bottom of yours, so you had presumably hit "reply" without actually reading the email I sent you), and you told me that the message had not got through because one of your employees was off work on Wednesday and Thursday. I pointed out that I had confirmed this on the Tuesday.

You told me the lengthy delay in returning the original amp was due to Roksan.
Roksan previously told me in an email that they would "turnaround within 72 hours."

You told me that you intend to, and I quote, "honour the warranty, even though the amplifier was purchased quite a long time ago". Can I point out that this unit was purchased in February, and has a two-year warranty?

You told me that you did not have the K2 in stock (although it is listed as "in stock" on your website) and so it could not be sent for delivery today (Saturday). You also told me that it would be impossible to pick up the old amp other than on a weekday. I told you that I was not able to make arrangements for someone to wait in for a courier yet again, and that it is not possible for me to have the amp picked up from my workplace. The conversation effectively ended in stalemate.

You then phoned me again minutes later, to tell me that the damaged amp would be picked up that same day (Friday) and that the replacement K2 would be delivered the next day, i.e. today (Saturday). I had to give you the correct address yet again, I think for the fifth time.

You then phoned me again, to ask who I had contacted on Tuesday; it was in fact the person who I was speaking to, the same person who had responed to the email I had sent on Tuesday.

I emailed you to reconfirm the pickup and delivery arrangements, and you acknowledged this.

The damaged amp was indeed picked up on Friday afternoon.

Saturday: Today I spent all day at home waiting for the courier, who never arrived.

I have to say that I have never experienced such shambolic customer service. Please make arrangements as follows:

K2 amplifier in Silver to be delivered to (address) next Saturday.

Please confirm this to me via email. Please conduct any further communications in this matter via email, not by phone, as I would like a written record of what is agreed.

Regards
 
basshound:Hi mate
Have you had no info at all? From Henleys earlier reply I fear this is turning into a blame game.IMO the customer should come first and the parties behind the scenes should sort it amongst themselves.Again IMO what should have been a fairly simple job of collect,repair,return has turned into such a PITA that I and probably other members of this forum would be wary of buying Roksan kit again.I must state again that my personal experience of Henley/Roksan was excellent but in your case it is somewhat "lacking"

I think Henley are trying their best.
 
Yes, I would think so too, as stated previously they were excellent in my case,maybe they should review how they appoint dealers.When my amp went faulty I suggested to AA that I would buy a K2 paying the difference in price between the Kandy but they refused point blank and started quoting terms & conditions
 
Audio Affair have got back to me. See below:
John

Thank you for your e-mail and apologies for any
inconvenience. To ensure I reply to all of your questions, I will reply to each
individually below in italics:

Dear Audio Affair (copied to Henley and Roksan),

Here is what has
happened in the last week:

Monday: Henley emailed me to request
pictures of the damage to the box, which I provided.

Tuesday: You
phoned me and offered to replace the amplifier with a new K2 model as the LIII
is no longer in production. You then emailed me a link so that I could have a
look at the amp's spec. I emailed you straight back, accepting your offer and
requested that you pick up the damaged amp and deliver the new amp on
Friday.

Friday: You emailed and phoned me to ask why I hadn't responded
to your offer. I explained that I had in fact done this (my email was appended
to the bottom of yours, so you had presumably hit "reply" without actually
reading the email I sent you), and you told me that the message had not got
through because one of your employees was off work on Wednesday and Thursday.
I pointed out that I had confirmed this on the Tuesday.

This may have been a miscommunication
with customer services. We recently had a new member of staff start and new
systems put in place all within the last week to ensure problems such as this
are dealt with as quickly as possible - this is a training
issue which we have resolved.


You told me the lengthy
delay in returning the original amp was due to Roksan.
Roksan previously
told me in an email that they would "turnaround within
72 hours."

From the information provided by
our customer services manager, Roksan looked at the amplifier as quickly as
possible and we contacted you immediately when it arrived back with us.


You told me that you intend to, and I quote, "honour the warranty,
even though the amplifier was purchased quite a long time ago". Can I point
out that this unit was purchased in February, and has a two-year
warranty?

You may have misunderstood what we
discussed on the phone. The item is of course provided with a 2 year warranty,
which is honoured by the retailer with any problems being repaired. Under the
circumstances, rather than you waiting for a further repair or an alternative
amplifier of similar value (which would be £389.98 as determined by half of
the value of the Twin Pack purchased at £779.95), we have offered a brand new
Kandy K2 amplifier in silver (worth £895).


You told me that
you did not have the K2 in stock (although it is listed as "in stock" on your
website) and so it could not be sent for delivery today (Saturday). You also
told me that it would be impossible to pick up the old amp other than on a
weekday. I told you that I was not able to make arrangements for someone to
wait in for a courier yet again, and that it is not possible for me to have
the amp picked up from my workplace. The conversation effectively ended in
stalemate.

The K2 was of course in stock and this
was confirmed on the phone - the difficulty was due to the fact that you
wanted a delivery and collection at the same time on the same day which we did
not have time to arrange and we asked if you could check for any possible
alternative arrangements and call us back.


You then phoned me again minutes later, to tell me that the damaged amp
would be picked up that same day (Friday) and that the replacement K2 would be
delivered the next day, i.e. today (Saturday). I had to give you the correct
address yet again, I think for the fifth time.

You then phoned me
again, to ask who I had contacted on Tuesday; it was in fact the person who I
was speaking to, the same person who had responed to the email I had sent on
Tuesday.

I emailed you to reconfirm the pickup and delivery
arrangements, and you acknowledged this.

The damaged amp was indeed
picked up on Friday afternoon.

Saturday: Today I spent all day at home
waiting for the courier, who never arrived.

I have to say that I have
never experienced such shambolic customer service. Please make arrangements as
follows:

K2 amplifier in Silver to be delivered to (address) next Saturday.

Please confirm this to me via
email. Please conduct any further communications in this matter via email, not
by phone, as I would like a written record of what is agreed.

The request for Saturday delivery was sent to
warehouse as an urgency. We will investigate what happened, and as requested,
we will ensure the amplifier is redelivered next
Saturday.

Thank you again for your patience and
apologies for any inconveniences caused.

Kind regards

Alex

Managing Director So there you have it. I shall await next Saturday. My name isn't John though
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JOHN - thats just really made me laugh!

so many excuses - so because they have a new member of staff obviously nobody talks or listens to them!!! Wonder if they know their name - maybe its JOHN?

hope you get the new kandy its the least they can do!!!

i had an 875 go bang with a cloud of smoke - dealer had it collected, assessed, written off and a brand new 876 with me in less than 2 weeks - thats service i expect - and guess what have spent a fortune with him over the last couple of years!!

Guess what they know my name!!!

i'd call them thursday to check collection booked and friday for tracking number!
 
hey tractorboy - sorry to hear about this PITA problem. I hope you get sorted out soon with a brand new K2.

My K2 developed a fault 2 weeks ago (circuit to left speaker went bust) and i sent it directly to Roksan. They acknowledged receipt on last Thursday morning (i sent via taxi company for quick delivery). They told me 72 hour turnaround time so that would be Monday evening or Tuesday morning. Also they made me pay for shipping it to them - not sure if this is common practice.
 
chainrock:Also they made me pay for shipping it to them - not sure if this is common practice.

I've been told it's the responsibility of the retailer to deal with shipping costs in the event of a warranty claim.

Pro - you don't have to pay anything.

Con - it takes longer, and with extra courier journeys (assuming the amp goes from you to the dealer, then from dealer to manufacturer and vice versa) there is more chance of something going wrong, e.g. the product getting damaged.
 
So here I am, yet again, sitting at home waiting for a courier. As morning ticks into afternoon, am I wasting my time at this point? Do couriers actually deliver on a Saturday afternoon or is it just morning?
 
Well, I'm at a loss to know what to do.

Audio Affair have promised to replace the amp, but have failed to deliver it twice now. Henley have been onto them, but to no avail. Roksan either don't want to get involved or are not interested. Without counting, I think this has dragged on for 8 weeks now.

Any advice or suggestions?
 
Contact trading standards in Audio Affair's locality for advice. This service is disgraceful and your experiences have completely put me off ever contemplating a purchase from them.

If you don't feel ready to go quite so far write a formal letter giving them a specified time limit in which to contact you, arrange delivery of the K2, and actually complete that delivery before you take the matter further. Keep a copy of your letter and send it by Special Delivery so that you have proof they have received it. If I were you I wouldn't be pulling any punches now. The excuses only wash for so long.

Hope you get this sorted. Its awful when you have spent so much money on new hi-fi to end up in this situation.
 
Well, if you want something doing, sometimes you've just got to do it yourself, right? I got a train to Birmingham and picked it up myself. Job done.
 
tractorboy:Well, if you want something doing, sometimes you've just got to do it yourself, right? I got a train to Birmingham and picked it up myself. Job done.

It shouldn't have been necessary but I think it was probably the only way to get this sorted. I really hope your shiny new K2 proves itself to be more reliable than your previous amp.

Glad you're sorted. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the K2 compared to the previous model.
 
Thanks Matt, yeah, ridiculous I know, but in the end it just seemed like the path of least resistance. I'll let the amp / my ears settle in for a couple of weeks and post up some impressions. It certainly sounds a lot different to the LIII out of the box though.
 

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