Thats out of order Lindsay t was perfectly respectful in his reply and rationale, you weren’t. You don’t put someone down because he has a rationale you don’t agree with. See the moderator for detention!Oldskool1976 said:So you admit to giving advice without even hearing the speakers you are recommending??lindsayt said:I've heard neither speakers.Oldskool1976 said:So you've heard both speakers? With the same amplification in the same room, because if not, you are even worse then the people who see no shortcomings in there kit.
Because at least they have heard what they are preaching.
No one is claiming they are Magicos but the fact he got a smallish floorstander in a massive room with a budget AV is more the problem.
Oh and last few pairs of bronze 5 that sold on ebay all went for around £400. Seems like they hold there value well, remind me again, how many people have bid on those goodmans???
I've heard, rather more expensive MA Silver speakers. I really didn't like them. If they were relatively poor sounding speakers, what chance do the much cheaper Bronzes have of sounding anything but relatively "bad"?
Someone whose judgement I trust knows those Goodmans speakers well, and recommends them (but as he says "don't pay over £120 for them. Magisters are better"). And for £85 - or whatever they sell for - they are a lot cheaper than new Bronze 5's.
Seems like a no brainer to me for anyone starting out in hi-fi. Start with a pair of massively under-rated speakers for £100. Use them and enjoy them for what they are. Use them as a benchmark for comparing against any other speakers that you fancy. Survival of the fittest. If you find something else you prefer, sell them for what you bought them for. Doesn't have to be the Goodmans. Could be any other properly engineered speaker for £100.
Please note that I did say that the Goodmans aren't the best sounding speakers ever made. If you think I'm behaving worse than people who never criticise any aspects of the sound of the equipment that they've bought, then that's up to you. So far you've not put together a coherent argument as to why you think that's the case. Please feel free to do so.
£400 for used MA Bronze 5 speakers on ebay? What like this pair that sold for £112 on 29th October 2017? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monitor-Audio-Bronze-5-Speakers/263275921320?hash=item3d4c77bfa8:g:0lwAAOSwlepZ46Pi
The depreciation prospects for MA Bronze speakers looks as bad as I'd expect. Whilst in 10 years time the Goodmans will still be worth £100.
Oh but someone you trust recommends them??
My argument was that you havn't even heard both sets and now you have proved me right and heres you still talking rubbish about a coherent argument .
Also nice try with the wrong link, those are the older bronze if you bothered to read you would see its the new bronze 5 we are talking about which have been selling for around £400.
Must try better, see me after class.