Difference between Mordaunt short performance 6 and Mordaunt short performance 6 limited?

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Hi,

Is there a big difference between the Mordaunt short performance 6 and Mordaunt short performance 6 limited? I listened to the limited edition but I can find the "regular" MS performance 6 for a better price.

Probably I will use them not only as hifi but also in a home cinemasystem. Wich center and subwoofer are recommanded?

Now I use Onkyo 606, Denon blu ray BD-3800, Chord silver hdmi and Chord carnival silvercreencables. Speakers I use now in my home cinema are B&O Redlinks 60.2 '2 front and 1 as center' and 2 small Canton's as rearspeakers.

Regards,

Bart

 

[Anonymous]

No one?

 

[matengawhat]

the limited edition were a limited run from memory they are all numbered update of the performance 6 and do sound better a few nice little tweeks - i'd pay the extra for the colour as the blacks ones look so smart - what i would say is the onkyo is know where near good enough for these speakers - either set - i don't understand why you want to run £3k worth of speakers with a £400 amp - forget it.

you also need to buy the matching centre as your fronts should all match which is about £1k - the sub you can shop around for and try a few

 

[Anonymous]

I think that the Limited version has a superior cross-over. I agree that the Limited version's colour finish looks absolutely stunning.

I completely agree that trying to run a pair of these superb loudspeakers via an Onkyo '606 would be a waste. These loudspeakers deserve top-notch amplification; really, a good power amplifier is a must for these loudspeakers.

 

[Anonymous]

For the system I use now the Onkyo 606 does what it need to do. Would the Onkyo 906 be a better option or wich AV-receiver do you suggest for this speakers?

 

[Anonymous]

They are £3k+ speakers. To get anything like what they can do out of them, you would really need to be looking at a processor/power amp combo- Onkyo Marantz, Rotel etc. They aren't insensitive but they have a nasty habit of showing everything that is wrong with the system- I demmed and rejected them for this reason.

 

[TheHomeCinemaCentre]

The Performance 6 is an excellent speaker and will deliver amazing results with the right amp. The 606 will work on them and your system will sound good but you will be missing so much of the speakers potential.

I would suggest the Yamaha DSP-Z7 as a starting point for these speakers. We ideally partner the 6's with the Marantz AV8003/MM8003 combination and then you will start to hear what they can do.

A decent demonstration should help you out.

Nick

 

[Clare Newsome]

I'll second that - we use the Performance 6s as our reference AV speaker package (as it's incredibly revealing), plus I run the fronts and centre at home (with smaller rears) for stereo and movie duties.

They thrive on higher-end amplification - think Onkyo 906 or (as above) Yamaha DSP-Z7 as a starting point for AV. I also run a separate stereo amp for music duties - the £3K Plinius integrated.

I'd urge you to get a demo with a range of both AV and stereo amps to hear the differences.

 

[Anonymous]

I am also interested in a pair of Mordaunt-Short Performance 6 loudspeakers.

I have a Marantz AV8003 Surround Processor/Pre-Amplifier and a NAD Masters Series M25 7-channel Power Amplifier.

 

[Anonymous]

Dear Clare,

Thanks. I've just got the P6 LE's and they are fantastic. I'm planning on creating a 7.1 with them, but using the Performance 2's for the surrounds - any news on a review of this new add/edition?

And given the choice of a predominantly musical Subwoofer to match; any view on comparison between Performance9, B&W PV1, Paradigm Sub1, Wilson Benech Torus, Velodyne SPL-1500R? (price differences notwithstanding!)

 

[Frank Harvey]

Anyone considering these speakers really should compare them to KEF Reference 203/2's or 205/2's - in an A/B comparison the MS's just didn't cut it for me.

 

[Anonymous]

Frank - thanks. When you say these speakers, do you mean the P2's? Take it you've had a chance to demo them...

 

[Frank Harvey]

Naah, not heard the P2's - I was talking of the P6se's

 

[Clare Newsome]

Challenger3:
Dear Clare,

Thanks. I've just got the P6 LE's and they are fantastic. I'm planning on creating a 7.1 with them, but using the Performance 2's for the surrounds - any news on a review of this new add/edition?

And given the choice of a predominantly musical Subwoofer to match; any view on comparison between Performance9, B&W PV1, Paradigm Sub1, Wilson Benech Torus, Velodyne SPL-1500R? (price differences notwithstanding!)

The P6 LEs are great, aren't they? Sadly we haven't had the Performance 2s in yet - will chase that up with Mordaunt Short.

Subwoofer-wise, it all depends on size of your room and your desire for bass-depth and agility. The P9 subwoofers (we use two!) work awesomely well in our largest test room, but I quite happy use a B&W PV1 at home with Performance fronts/centre, The Wilson Benesch Torus is something else, mind you - stunning stuff in a music as well as movies context.

Sounds like you've got a lot more auditioning to do....

 

[Clare Newsome]

FrankHarveyHiFi:
Anyone considering these speakers really should compare them to KEF Reference 203/2's or 205/2's - in an A/B comparison the MS's just didn't cut it for me.

As a KEF dealer who doesn't stock Morduant Short, i'd expect you to say that.

Remember, everybody, you can check which brands a retailer does/doesn't stock by reading their BIO (Click on their name above every post).

 

[Frank Harvey]

We do stock Mordaunt Short, and had the speakers in question on loan

 

[Clare Newsome]

Nifty bio edit there

 

[Frank Harvey]

Clare Newsome:Nifty bio edit there

?? Nothing's changed in quite a while.....

I would just like to make it clear that what I said below was my personal preference (which is all a recommendation is), just as Clare's preference is for the Performance 6's. I personally use KEF Reference, so am always going to recommend it to those in the right price bracket or in a particular situation which merits the KEF's benefits.

The main reason here was that the Performance 6's have quite an 'inert' cabinet - there's no wood or lack of bracing helping out with the overall tonal balance. The KEF Reference speakers are very similar in the respect, as even thought they do use this type of cabinet, it's so thick and well braced that they don't behave in the way a traditional cabinet does.

I do find it funny how some people get up tight when someone recommends an alternative to what they prefer. At the end of the day, ANYBODY spending this amount of money should be trying out as many speakers as they can, rather than just deciding on a model based on that someone has recommended, regardless of the medium via which the recommendation has come.

 

[Clare Newsome]

I don't mind if anyone prefers the KEF References to the Mordaunt Shorts - that's personal choice, and should always come first. And my post earlier on stresses the importance of auditioning (something I do frequently, as you well know

).

Just trying to keep things balanced. Retailers have incredibly free rein on these Forums, and we're happy for you to be here

 

[Anonymous]

Clare,

Many thanks - response much appreciated. Perhaps I could take this opportunity to check on next steps; I'm in a real quandry!! To give context, I'm presently stuck working in Saudi Arabia, with very limited access to HiFi and/or demo opportunities. Have waited 30years to get my first HiFi system, and with 15years of violin playing behind me, I've a pretty sensitive and intolerant ear. Not interested in instant impact, thumping base type systems that tire the ears after a couple of tracks - am investing in a real HiFi that presents music (and films) unadulterated, with as deep and wide a soundfield as possible. Needs to pick out detail that other systems just can't - but not clinically, and offering musical and compelling basenotes but that never tire or sound 'synthesized'. Musical tastes mixed; prefer real instruments, but some music I also like is electronic, so system needs to cope with that too.

SPEAKERS-I've taken the plunge with the Mordaunt-Short Performance system as after extensive research I feel it best meets my need for neutral reproduction, but flexible capabilities, and when I add the 2's, developing a good HomeCinema setup + wider soundfield. Ultimately the real clincher was the combined use of advanced technology, the P6 LE's superb design, and that 'hair-raising' experience!

CD & AMPS - Wishlist=Oracle CD2500MKII and comparable Amps, but current PS3+Onxyo SR-804 setup as stopgap just don't cut it now that I have decent speakers. Still moving so need to keep system as compact as possible (P6's notwithstanding!). Cyrus were a wishlist favourite for years, but then I realised that perhaps I needed to budget higher if I want a deeper/broader soundfield. Of other 'half-size' modules, I'm now looking seriously at:

- Chord Choral

- NuForce Reference V9SE (Class D systems - perfect size and low energy consumption)

- Bryston 9B/14B-SST's and even

- Pathos Digit as interesting alternatives; but have only found a couple of reviews out there, so can only GUESS at how any of these would sound with the Performance 6SE's.

So really need help - without committing anyone to anything, could I get some thoughts on

1) How would the Chord system sound with the P6?

2) and the NuForce reference system?

3) Would a Cyrus setup be comparable in terms of depth and breadth?

4) If I want such a wide soundfield should I be going for an 'american sound' eg: AudioResearch or Krell?

Or: would any of these be good with the MS's, but choosing the right connecting cables is what will make the real difference between them?

Class A seems just too big and energy hungry; Class D looking more attractive.

Any steer much appreciated!

Alex