Denon rcd-m41?

[Sake]

Anyone tested this one? How is the soundquality compared to now discontinued rcd m40 or other amplifiers?

 

[insider9]

I've tested Sake it makes everything sound better 😉

EDIT

Oh and warm welcome to the forum. The likely differences between the models will come from speakers attached to them and not so much the units themselves.

 

[Snooker]

I use to have the Denon DM37 (All in one) and it sounded very good, but I now have the Denon Ceol N8 (All in one) which in my opinion sounds better and has internet radio which is very useful

If I were you for slightly more money would either buy the current Denon Ceol N9 (All in one), and for even more money the Marantz MCR611 (All in one), but feel after reading reviews that both systems would sound very similar

I prefered the look of the Denon and bought that instead of the Marantz

I think the next current model up the Denon Ceol N9 would be a very good choice and feel it will sound better than the new Denon DM41, and again has internet radio which the DM41 has not got

 

[Gray]

I bought a 40 for my Brother to use with some Kef Q100s I had.

That model sounds good with a USB stick full of FLACs plugged in the front. I note that the 41 doesn't have the front USB socket, but does have the Bluetooth that previous models lacked.

If the 41 does sound better than the 40 then it won't be bad. (I paid £179 for the (speakerless) 40 and see that it was recently available for £149, which I would suggest is quite a bargain, especially if you want to use USB FLACs and / or own some decent speakers)

 

[chebby]

Anyone tested this one? How is the soundquality compared to now discontinued rcd m40 or other amplifiers?

What Hi-Fi? review (with comparison to M40 model).

 

[nopiano]

I've no idea how it sounds, but for me - a regular CD user - putting the drawer above the display is an ergonomic disaster. I like to see which track I'm selecting, so unless it is mounted at head height, the tray obscures the display. The previous model did it properly.

My Marantz is the same, and had I realised what a stupid design it was I'd have chosen something else! You can of course count how many times you press the track button, but that's hardly ideal.

 

[Deleted member 108165]

I've no idea how it sounds, but for me - a regular CD user - putting the drawer above the display is an ergonomic disaster. I like to see which track I'm selecting, so unless it is mounted at head height, the tray obscures the display. The previous model did it properly.

My Marantz is the same, and had I realised what a stupid design it was I'd have chosen something else! You can of course count how many times you press the track button, but that's hardly ideal.

How do you play a CD with the drawer in the open position?

 

[Gray]

The initial track selections he's talking about Doug. (The one(s) you close the drawer with)

 

[MajorFubar]

The assumption probably is that the tiny minority of people who do anything but shove a CD in the tray and hit play will use the remote to select specific tracks. It’s been about 20 years since I last saw a new CD player with numbered track selector buttons on anything but its remote.

 

[Gray]

True what you say Major.

Personally, when loading a disc, if I don't just press play, I do a quick multiple hit of the player's next track button to select a starting track and close the drawer. Call me a fussy old git but I'd rather the display was never blocked from view.

 

[chebby]

Personally, when loading a disc, if I don't just press play, I do a quick multiple hit of the player's next track button to select a starting track and close the drawer. Call me a fussy old git but I'd rather the display was never blocked from view.

People advocating physical media like CDs are always saying how there is no substitute for playing the whole album 'as the artist intended ' compared to us streamers/downloaders who flit around skipping tracks all over the place just to play our favourites apparently.

 

[Deleted member 108165]

The initial track selections he's talking about Doug. (The one(s) you close the drawer with)

Yeah, I understand, but Marantz remotes have a drawer open/close button on them. Once closed the screen is in full view *smile*

 

[Gray]

Personally, when loading a disc, if I don't just press play, I do a quick multiple hit of the player's next track button to select a starting track and close the drawer. Call me a fussy old git but I'd rather the display was never blocked from view.

People advocating physical media like CDs are always saying how there is no substitute for playing the whole album 'as the artist intended ' compared to us streamers/downloaders who flit around skipping tracks all over the place just to play our favourites apparently.

No I've never been one of those types that always play whole albums (too many compilations).

Probably why, these days, I'm one of you, playing off a hard drive (that and spending many months ripping the discs). Just can't get round to getting rid of a decent sounding 15 year old Marantz CD6000KI - it makes a point of sounding good if I do use it.

 

[matthewpiano]

I've had a few of these Denon micros over the years, going right back to an RCD-M30. They've consistently offered musically involving performance for beer-budget money and the feel and build of them is actually a cut above the more expensive network systems by Denon and Marantz. I wouldn't expect the latest iteration to disappoint, and may actually pick one up myself for my bedroom.

 

[nopiano]

True what you say Major.

Personally, when loading a disc, if I don't just press play, I do a quick multiple hit of the player's next track button to select a starting track and close the drawer. Call me a fussy old git but I'd rather the display was never blocked from view.

Exactly my point. Thank you!

 

[nopiano]

The initial track selections he's talking about Doug. (The one(s) you close the drawer with)

Yeah, I understand, but Marantz remotes have a drawer open/close button on them. Once closed the screen is in full view *smile*

When I'm back home I'll check, but I have a hunch it begins to play, not just read the index, when you close the drawer. However, if you're correct that might be a solution. It's just I was used to popping the disc in my Krell, selecting the track if I wasn't playing a whole symphony, say, then presing play. But when the drawer is open you can see which track.

Back to the op, however, I wonder why Denon changed it at all? Maybe to fit some new gubbins inside?

 

[Deleted member 108165]

When I'm back home I'll check, but I have a hunch it begins to play, not just read the index, when you close the drawer. However, if you're correct that might be a solution.

On both the Marantz spinners I've owned when you press the close button on the remote it just closes the drawer and starts the read function then sits there waiting patiently for your next input/instruction. I'm kinda hoping that yours does the same. The same also applies to the close function button on the actual unit.

 

[nopiano]

When I'm back home I'll check, but I have a hunch it begins to play, not just read the index, when you close the drawer. However, if you're correct that might be a solution.

On both the Marantz spinners I've owned when you press the close button on the remote it just closes the drawer and starts the read function then sits there waiting patiently for your next input/instruction. I'm kinda hoping that yours does the same. The same also applies to the close function button on the actual unit.

Indded it does! I think I was simply used to selecting the odd track that way in my Krell, but with the SACD Marantz I cannot. It is very slow to read versus my old player, and for that matter the rather nice Roksan Caspian 2 that the dealer used for my recent speaker adventure. The Roksan also is drawer on top. TBH I prefer display and keys one side, with drawer the other - like some Luxman, for example. But symmetry rules for most.

I wonder why Denon changed it? (Apologies to OP for the partly off-topic debate).

 

[Sake]

In short; Dont buy this as soundquality sucks.

Took the chance and bought a rcd-m41, after all it was an open buy so i can return it. Read the japanese blogpost with the constructors translated with google. It was promising with new amp design with new discrete design with new customised ht amp chip, lowered noise and distortion and gone from 0,8 to 1mm chassis among others things everything said to provide better sound. But even if the clarity is better and there is some more details the bass quality is very bad and it sounds metallic you hear it specially on voices. These culprits were so odd that i just wished to turn it off which i in the end did after playing around with a lot of music and using the onboard dab, cd and a bluesound node 2 both via glass toslink and good interconnect. Of the sources i found the cd provided best sq. Yes i turned of spk opt and bluetooth and on spk direct which were supposed to improve sq.Nothing helped though on some jazz and slow music f.ex.it sounded bearable to ok. I tested it with reasonably easy to drive floorstanders. If you consider this listen throughly and with easy to drive speakers. Don't trust WhatHifi reviews they are not honest about the negatives. Not recommended product, look elsewhere.