grdunn123
Well-known member
I totally agree!! 'Picture quality' is completely subjective - otherwise we'd all have the same tv, bd etc even taking in to account the cost difference.
sure ronald , im not suggesting you didnt see the differences that you say you seen , just that its strange how some believe they see such differences , like yourself and others , and some believe they dont see them , like bigboss and others .
..
i myself could find no difference between a ps3 and my current sony bpd-s363 with blu-rays , but i felt the 363 was a more capable upscaler of dvds ..
and my friend has a hand me down sony , cant think of the model number but it was the first ever sony bdp , a big behemoth of a thing , again , when i compared to my 363 neither i nor him could see any difference .. strange but true ..
i myself could find no difference between a ps3 and my current sony bpd-s363 with blu-rays , but i felt the 363 was a more capable upscaler of dvds ..
and my friend has a hand me down sony , cant think of the model number but it was the first ever sony bdp , a big behemoth of a thing , again , when i compared to my 363 neither i nor him could see any difference .. strange but true ..
bigboss
Moderator
maxflinn: bb , i think you need to eat more carrots
Yup, eating 4 carrots a day!!
Maybe I should have 6.....
Yup, eating 4 carrots a day!!
BB,
My son is older than you are. Humility and respect?
You have yet to understand what that even means.
Ronald
My son is older than you are. Humility and respect?
You have yet to understand what that even means.
Ronald
grdunn123
Well-known member
When Sky went HD the few that bought in to it said how wonderful the picture quality was......some time later they started complaining that the pq was deteriorating and what was Sky up to.....as you get used to something it no longer has the 'wow' factor. Bit like driving a V8 for the first time, after a while it just becomes the 'norm'
bigboss
Moderator
Ronald Archiebald:
BB,
My son is older than you are. Humility and respect?
You have yet to understand what that even means.
Ronald
Ok, let's not get personal here, shall we? Let's not challenge people's personal experiences. You can disagree with them, by all means, but saying "You are wrong" to a personal experience isn't humility in my books (& age has nothing to do with being humble).
This is a good thread about the Denon & the Marantz players & let this carry on, concentrating on the players in question.
BB,
My son is older than you are. Humility and respect?
You have yet to understand what that even means.
Ronald
Ok, let's not get personal here, shall we? Let's not challenge people's personal experiences. You can disagree with them, by all means, but saying "You are wrong" to a personal experience isn't humility in my books (& age has nothing to do with being humble).
This is a good thread about the Denon & the Marantz players & let this carry on, concentrating on the players in question.
bigboss
Moderator
grdunn123:When Sky went HD the few that bought in to it said how wonderful the picture quality was......some time later they started complaining that the pq was deteriorating and what was Sky up to.....as you get used to something it no longer has the 'wow' factor. Bit like driving a V8 for the first time, after a while it just becomes the 'norm'
ronald , you seem to be a helpful chap , who knows quite a bit about home cinema etc , but , stating as fact , differences that you perceive between components , on this forum , is a recipe for arguments/contradiction , why not just state your opinion on such matters , and let people make what they will of it ? and by the same token , respect or heed others opinions , advice , if you wish , as they do yours ..
Ronald Archiebald:BB,
My son is older than you are. Humility and respect?
You have yet to understand what that even means.
Ronald
Ronald,
That's your second warning this evening...
My son is older than you are. Humility and respect?
You have yet to understand what that even means.
Ronald
Ronald,
That's your second warning this evening...
bigboss:
maxflinn: bb , i think you need to eat more carrots
Yup, eating 4 carrots a day!!
Maybe I should have 6.....
BB 6 is overload, you only need 5 a day ive heard
maxflinn: bb , i think you need to eat more carrots
Yup, eating 4 carrots a day!!
BB 6 is overload, you only need 5 a day ive heard
bigboss
Moderator
sta99y:bigboss:
maxflinn: bb , i think you need to eat more carrots
Yup, eating 4 carrots a day!!
Maybe I should have 6.....
BB 6 is overload, you only need 5 a day ive heard
maxflinn: bb , i think you need to eat more carrots
Yup, eating 4 carrots a day!!
BB 6 is overload, you only need 5 a day ive heard
professorhat
Well-known member
Things are getting close to being quite heated here - you'd almost think it was cable thread! The key is to ensure you demo two things together so you can check to ensure you can perceive the differences, as in fact all Jase was wanting to do when he started this thread. If you can see beneficial differences, then clearly spending the money on more expensive players is worthwhile. If you can't, then it really isn't.
There's no right or wrong in this (or any other) auditioning scenario, your own perceived value from your own experiences is all that counts.
There's no right or wrong in this (or any other) auditioning scenario, your own perceived value from your own experiences is all that counts.
professorhat:
Things are getting close to being quite heated here - you'd almost think it was cable thread! The key is to ensure you demo two things together so you can check to ensure you can perceive the differences, as in fact all Jase was wanting to do when he started this thread. If you can see beneficial differences, then clearly spending the money on more expensive players is worthwhile. If you can't, then it really isn't.
There's no right or wrong in this (or any other) auditioning scenario, your own perceived value from your own experiences is all that counts.
Things are getting close to being quite heated here - you'd almost think it was cable thread! The key is to ensure you demo two things together so you can check to ensure you can perceive the differences, as in fact all Jase was wanting to do when he started this thread. If you can see beneficial differences, then clearly spending the money on more expensive players is worthwhile. If you can't, then it really isn't.
There's no right or wrong in this (or any other) auditioning scenario, your own perceived value from your own experiences is all that counts.
maxflinn:ronald , you seem to be a helpful chap , who knows quite a bit about home cinema etc , but , stating as fact , differences that you perceive between components , on this forum , is a recipe for arguments/contradiction , why not just state your opinion on such matters , and let people make what they will of it ? and by the same token , respect or heed others opinions , advice , if you wish , as they do yours ..
Maxflinn,
Very well said and adhered.
Ronald
Maxflinn,
Very well said and adhered.
Ronald
bigboss
Moderator
Ronald Archiebald:
maxflinn:ronald , you seem to be a helpful chap , who knows quite a bit about home cinema etc , but , stating as fact , differences that you perceive between components , on this forum , is a recipe for arguments/contradiction , why not just state your opinion on such matters , and let people make what they will of it ? and by the same token , respect or heed others opinions , advice , if you wish , as they do yours ..
Maxflinn,
Very well said and adhered.
Ronald
maxflinn:ronald , you seem to be a helpful chap , who knows quite a bit about home cinema etc , but , stating as fact , differences that you perceive between components , on this forum , is a recipe for arguments/contradiction , why not just state your opinion on such matters , and let people make what they will of it ? and by the same token , respect or heed others opinions , advice , if you wish , as they do yours ..
Maxflinn,
Very well said and adhered.
Ronald
dirtydean
Well-known member
I phoned Denon today they still don't have a date when the DBP - 1611UD will be in stock. They said there having problems with there susplyer. Bummer made my mind up on a certain player then carn't get one. I'm so inpatient but don't want to rush into buying something else then be disappointed.
Dean
Dean
dirtydean:I phoned Denon today they still don't have a date when the DBP - 1611UD will be in stock. They said there having problems with there susplyer. Bummer made my mind up on a certain player then carn't get one. I'm so inpatient but don't want to rush into buying something else then be disappointed.
DeanI know what you mean Dean, but luckily for me im not wanting it to replace my current player but just for demo purposes against my 2500BT.
Having said that if the 2011 beats the 2500BT in Audio and video quality then it will be replaced, im just looking forward to comparing the two side by side.
DeanI know what you mean Dean, but luckily for me im not wanting it to replace my current player but just for demo purposes against my 2500BT.
Having said that if the 2011 beats the 2500BT in Audio and video quality then it will be replaced, im just looking forward to comparing the two side by side.
professorhat:
the Denon was still WHF's reference Blu-Ray player (in spite of the slow loading times!).
Im happy to hear this Prof, so if the 2500BT is there reference player, did they recommend it to you?
the Denon was still WHF's reference Blu-Ray player (in spite of the slow loading times!).
Im happy to hear this Prof, so if the 2500BT is there reference player, did they recommend it to you?
jase fox:professorhat:
the Denon was still WHF's reference Blu-Ray player (in spite of the slow loading times!).
Im happy to hear this Prof, so if the 2500BT is there reference player, did they recommend it to you?
Can i just ask what is it reference for?
Thanks
the Denon was still WHF's reference Blu-Ray player (in spite of the slow loading times!).
Im happy to hear this Prof, so if the 2500BT is there reference player, did they recommend it to you?
Can i just ask what is it reference for?
Thanks
gel:jase fox:professorhat:
the Denon was still WHF's reference Blu-Ray player (in spite of the slow loading times!).
Im happy to hear this Prof, so if the 2500BT is there reference player, did they recommend it to you?
Can i just ask what is it reference for?
Thanks
Well itll be for both video and audio quality as it doesnt play SACD etc
Im not surprised its there reference for this.
the Denon was still WHF's reference Blu-Ray player (in spite of the slow loading times!).
Im happy to hear this Prof, so if the 2500BT is there reference player, did they recommend it to you?
Can i just ask what is it reference for?
Thanks
Well itll be for both video and audio quality as it doesnt play SACD etc
Im not surprised its there reference for this.
Hi Jase
No i just meant was it reference for like 0-£700 blu ray players?
Also what is reference for £700-£1500?
Also what is reference for £1500+?
Thanks
By the way those amounts could be way off not sure
Also does it work like that or not?
No i just meant was it reference for like 0-£700 blu ray players?
Also what is reference for £700-£1500?
Also what is reference for £1500+?
Thanks
By the way those amounts could be way off not sure
Also does it work like that or not?
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