Crazy expensive accessory's without warranty it wil work better than something cheaper !

[gasolin]

You know about the £4200 hifi fuse https://forums.whathifi.com/threads/this-fuse-costs-£4200.125517/

Antother expensive accessory is a Chord GroundARAY Noise Absorber for £550, for some it would be an okay price for a + £10000 system

Chord GroundARAY Noise Absorber

The GroundARAY is Chord Company's latest innovation to combat high-frequency noise in your HiFi and AV equipment. By providing a low-impedance path for high-frequency noise to take, the GroundARAY effectively siphons noise out of the signal ground of its 'host'. Available in 8 different...

www.futureshop.co.uk

The real crazy next level in noise absorbers,noise cancelling,reducing product is also from chord Chord PowerARAY Professional Noise Reduction Block for x10 the price of the Chord GroundARAY Noise Absorber, for no less than £5,500

Chord PowerARAY Professional Noise Reduction Block

The Chord Company PowerARAY Professional is a high-efficiency device designed to target high-frequency noise and uses technology developed for Chord's acclaimed SuperARAY and GroundARAY products.

www.futureshop.co.uk

It might work, have an effect compared to the hifi fuse but to me it's ridiculous expensive, fix the problem instead of buying a unit to fix it, if you can afford £5,500 on a Chord PowerARAY Professional Noise Reduction Block you have the money to fix what ever problem (s) the Chord PowerARAY Professional Noise Reduction Block is trying to improve

This might work almost as good for alot less, for active speakers or dual amps you need 2

Audiolab DC Block (Black)

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Other crazy ridiculous expensive accessory that will brak the bank,your wallet and might not work better than something alot cheaper ?

 

[RoA]

I would say that anyone who has the money is entirely entitled to buy whatever they want and believe in, regardless of whether we regard it as foo. Why not?

On the Audiolab DC block ... I have one. Not because I have any transformer hum on my amplifiers but out of curiosity if it does anything else to my system/s. There seems to be a slight reduction in hash/noise in treble heavy tracks.

 

[Friesiansam]

I would say that anyone who has the money is entirely entitled to buy whatever they want and believe in, regardless of whether we regard it as foo. Why not?

I agree with that but, some manufacturers are taking the pee in a big way.

 

[Al ears]

I agree with that but, some manufacturers are taking the pee in a big way.

If people are actually buying devices for those sort of prices then clearly they aren't taking the P

 

[Friesiansam]

If people are actually buying devices for those sort of prices then clearly they aren't taking the P

In terms of the claims some are making about their products, I think some companies are taking the pee.

As for gullible people buying those products, you must know the old saying about a fool and his money.

 

[Gray]

If people are actually buying devices for those sort of prices then clearly they aren't taking the P

They often are, but the buyers either don't see it, or don't mind encouraging it as....they've got to spend their money on something.

 

[Al ears]

They often are, but the buyers either don't see it, or don't mind encouraging it as....they've got to spend their money on something.

Perhaps it's a tax dodge I don't know about....

 

[DiggyGun]

I tried the ChordARAY plugs and found that they did make an improvement. After playing with them, using two was optimum. However, at £500 each, there wasn’t enough of an improvement for the cost. If they were £50-100 each, it would have been worth a punt.

The Audiolab DC Blocker is not what I would class as ridiculously expensive. I use a similar product, IFI DC Blockers to stop the hum on two of my power amps. It’s very effective, reduced the hum significantly, but importantly with no detriment to the sound quality. At £107 each, good value for money at that price.

DG….

 

[DPD]

It's a multi million pound industry built around, what my mates and I affectionately refer to as HFB..
HIFI B.....S !!!

 

[SR-91]

Is this accessory better than the metal links supplied with loudspeakers ?

Nordost Odin Gold Bi-Wire Jumper Cables

Nordost Odin Gold Bi-Wire Jumper Cables now available at Analogue Seduction.

www.analogueseduction.net

 

[nopiano]

Is this accessory better than the metal links supplied with loudspeakers ?

Nordost Odin Gold Bi-Wire Jumper Cables

Nordost Odin Gold Bi-Wire Jumper Cables now available at Analogue Seduction.

www.analogueseduction.net

There was once a review that measured a distortion from the metal links. Later they found these weren’t tightened up properly. There’s a definite appeal in having matching wires, and those little plates often look as cheap as chips.

That said, most of us don’t see the weedy little wires most manufacturers use inside our speakers. What we probably don’t appreciate is that easy and accurate assembly is important to the manufacturing process, and a few inches of any cable will make no difference to the impedance or capacitance of the overall product.

Unfortunately, Nordost seem to exhibit the extreme jewellery end of the spectrum, with fantastical claims that don’t seem very credible.

 

[SR-91]

There was once a review that measured a distortion from the metal links. Later they found these weren’t tightened up properly. There’s a definite appeal in having matching wires, and those little plates often look as cheap as chips.

That said, most of us don’t see the weedy little wires most manufacturers use inside our speakers. What we probably don’t appreciate is that easy and accurate assembly is important to the manufacturing process, and a few inches of any cable will make no difference to the impedance or capacitance of the overall product.

The cost of those links buys a pair of ATC actives. I know which i would rather have !

 

[nopiano]

The cost of those links buys a pair of ATC actives. I know which i would rather have !

Me too!

 

[Friesiansam]

Is this accessory better than the metal links supplied with loudspeakers ?

Nordost Odin Gold Bi-Wire Jumper Cables

Nordost Odin Gold Bi-Wire Jumper Cables now available at Analogue Seduction.

www.analogueseduction.net

This thread is really plumbing the depths of the snake oil industry!

Unfortunately, Nordost seem to exhibit the extreme jewellery end of the spectrum, with fantastical claims that don’t seem very credible.

You are being far more polite and charitable than I was, when I looked at the link.

 

[SR-91]

There was once a review that measured a distortion from the metal links. Later they found these weren’t tightened up properly. There’s a definite appeal in having matching wires, and those little plates often look as cheap as chips.

That said, most of us don’t see the weedy little wires most manufacturers use inside our speakers. What we probably don’t appreciate is that easy and accurate assembly is important to the manufacturing process, and a few inches of any cable will make no difference to the impedance or capacitance of the overall product.

Unfortunately, Nordost seem to exhibit the extreme jewellery end of the spectrum, with fantastical claims that don’t seem very credible.

Here is a recent video claiming a sonic improvement when the metal links are replaced with short lengths of OFC copper cable.

There is a demonstration at the end of the video but i'm afraid i can not detect any difference...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urctRCKxr5c

 

[nopiano]

You are being far more polite and charitable than I was, when I looked at the link.

 

[nopiano]

I’m not beyond trying these things. But these for my ATCs cost about £25, and that’s fair enough in my book. They look cool even if I can’t say the sound was ‘night and day’ different, and my wife didn’t ask what I’d done as the sound was so amazing!

The cable is Van Damme Hifi OFC 4mm if you’re curious. From eBay seller lucasoundvision.

https://imgur.com/bHXz3Yp

View: https://imgur.com/bHXz3Yp

 

[SR-91]

I’m not beyond trying these things. But these for my ATCs cost about £25, and that’s fair enough in my book. They look cool even if I can’t say the sound was ‘night and day’ different, and my wife didn’t ask what I’d done as the sound was so amazing!

The cable is Van Damme Hifi OFC 4mm if you’re curious. From eBay seller lucasoundvision.

https://imgur.com/bHXz3Yp

View: https://imgur.com/bHXz3Yp

I would at least try them, at that price, but only on a system costing thousands. The Nordost ones though are a ridiculous price.

 

[nopiano]

I would at least try them, at that price, but only on a system costing thousands. The Nordost ones though are a ridiculous price.

Exactly. My ATC speakers are c £4000 a pair so it’s fair enough, but the Hifi jewellery is bonkers. I wonder if they’ve ever sold a set?

 

[SR-91]

Exactly. My ATC speakers are c £4000 a pair so it’s fair enough, but the Hifi jewellery is bonkers. I wonder if they’ve ever sold a set?

I have always wondered if they had sold any.

The whole Nordost Odin gold price range just baffles me...

 

[RoA]

The cost of those links buys a pair of ATC actives. I know which i would rather have !

Those links are not aimed at you. The buyer will already have active ATC's, probably in his or her third, small bedroom system.

Small change for some.

However, it always amuses me when forums discuss and dismiss these expensive accessories and I do wonder why.

What is it to you (me)? Good luck to anyone able to afford it. He/she is happy, the vendor is happy, everyone's happy.

Waste of time imho to have (mostly hypothetical) discussions about it without any experience using those things or to be in a financial position where a few grand are as important as the cost of a coffee.

If you are (in that financial position) and still baulk at the cost of said items or have tried them and found they make no improvements .... fantastic. You can go to your favourite spa, roll in the mud and drink champagne whilst doing so.

Happiness all round.

 

[SR-91]

Those links are not aimed at you. The buyer will already have active ATC's, probably in his or her third, small bedroom system.

Small change for some.

However, it always amuses me when forums discuss and dismiss these expensive accessories and I do wonder why.

What is it to you (me)? Good luck to anyone able to afford it. He/she is happy, the vendor is happy, everyone's happy.

Waste of time imho to have (mostly hypothetical) discussions about it without any experience using those things or to be in a financial position where a few grand are as important as the cost of a coffee.

If you are (in that financial position) and still baulk at the cost of said items or have tried them and found they make no improvements .... fantastic. You can go to your favourite spa, roll in the mud and drink champagne whilst doing so.

Happiness all round.

I can see your point regarding coming on forums and moaning about items i could never personally afford.

Seriously though what price of loudspeaker would make the addition of those Nordost jumper cables appropriate ?

Very expensive loudspeakers that's the answer, and, such loudspeakers i would hope would be fully optimised from the start without the need for such tweaks...

 

[WayneKerr]

If a hifi forum is not the platform to discuss these products then where should they be discussed? Surely this is the ideal place...

 

[Friesiansam]

However, it always amuses me when forums discuss and dismiss these expensive accessories and I do wonder why.

Discussion is what forums are all about, it's their raison d'être. Discussions about things that are seen as being ridiculous, are just as valid as any other.

 

[Gray]

I just hope, as others suspect, that they've actually sold none of some of the most ridiculously priced (and clearly ludicrous) products.

(Anyone that has bought though....can you imagine them not 'hearing' some improvement?....it would be "money well spent", rather than good money wasted).