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Charlie Jefferson

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The thing for me is not so much the kit, although that's integral, it's the music itself or more specifically the music in it's vinyl form that has me in it's tender, oft capricious sway.

I've got thousands of CDs and downloads and a pretty good DAC to play them through, but by and large it's very underused compared to my turntable. We're currently in the throes of a double story extension plus some other building work too. The upshot will lead to a dedicated music room, where my HiFi and all or nearly all my vinyl can set up home. Should be ready in the new year, and I'm really looking forward to a library of books and vinyl, no TV and my gear slightly off the beaten track within our home layout. I love to see my two little boys enjoying music but they aren't quite old enough yet to value the care and caution sometimes required with valuable electronics.

Back to my vinyl repository for my next disc.

CJSF, keep us all posted on your latest precision-crafted move.
 

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The thing for me is not so much the kit, although that's integral, it's the music itself or more specifically the music in it's vinyl form that has me in it's tender, oft capricious sway. I've got thousands of CDs and downloads and a pretty good DAC to play them through, but by and large it's very underused compared to my turntable. We're currently in the throes of a double story extension plus some other building work too. The upshot will lead to a dedicated music room, where my HiFi and all or nearly all my vinyl can set up home. Should be ready in the new year, and I'm really looking forward to a library of books and vinyl, no TV and my gear slightly off the beaten track within our home layout. I love to see my two little boys enjoying music but they aren't quite old enough yet to value the care and caution sometimes required with valuable electronics. Back to my vinyl repository for my next disc. CJSF, keep us all posted on your latest precision-crafted move.

Feeling better Charlie . . . :D thats good.

Enough already, 'precision crafted', its all trial and error my friend, usually a lot of error . . . :? But its fun, the best bits, sitting with Haze as I have for the last hour, Horlicks and an old track or three, just listened to Ricky Lee Jones 'Pirates' and Quincy Jones 'The Dude', both going back to 1981 . . . great recordings with some superb music. . . memories, yeah.

I had a session on my own earlier, like 'wick up loads', earlier . . . Fancied a bit of Queen, not played them since I did the ISOweight and ultra tracking/bias reset . . . wow!!!! volume at max (for the amp) about 12 o'clock, I have never heard rock so loud with total layer and image control!!!! I also dug out a 'Wilson Audio' Organ recording, the organ has pipes capable of 32hz . . . bottom 'C' so the record sleeve says, they are on the recording . . . my room shook, I have no idea what the frequency response of my LB1's are, but I have not heard a base response like that before any where, the air in the room oscillated :O

. . . going to bed with a lot on my mind, that base was a new experience. I'm scratching the head trying to make something of it, to late to try it again :? . . . CJSF
 

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. . . and I thought the Rega P5 turntable saga was over, not on your sweet ???? . . . :bounce: I was listening to some tracks last night, thought I could hear a buzz? It was late, my bed was calling. Checked it out this morning . . . yep the TT/PSU was sounding like a fluorescent tube? very quiet but it was there.

A call to the local dealer who supplied it, he got onto Rega, loose earth they said. Bring it round, we will fix it said dealer, we recreated the buzz on the dealer system, they could not fix it . . . so its order a new unit, tested first at dealers before it comes home.

Any old how, while I was there, I picked up a new 'white motor belt', Rega say its an upgrade on the standard black belt? Smoother finish, and slightly less give . . . its certainly a tighter fit. What was going through my mind, power supply, is it a fixable problem? it was to easy to recreate the buzz at the dealers??? The supply is about 'speed stability' . . . the white belt is about better 'speed stability and less noise from the smoother finish'. The P5 has the better 24v motor as standard, an upgrade for some of the other Regas. Hedge bets, standard supply to the 24v motor, white belt, making the TT/PSU redundant . . . sceptics hat on, thats a big call, Rega know what they are doing, dont they?

Well my TT/PSU works OK provided I dont go to loud. Before I connect it to the P5, I put the 'new white belt' on and hooked up the standard wall wart power supply . . . Pretty d*m good, tightens everything up is my best description, base is really good. Reconnect the buzzing TT/PSU, bit more air perhaps and the base gets a tad tighter, its marginal? . . . putting £150 against £21 if the power supply problem is unresolved, I'll take a £150 refund and not feel cheated.

Any Rega owners, the white belt is a meaningful upgrade at a gift price, IMHO.

Watch this space . . . CJSF :?
 

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The TT-PSU is mostly about the timing. That's where I heard the biggest change when a friend installed one on his P3-24/Denon DL103R set-up.

We did a lot of 'with TT-PSU' and without TT-PSU' comparisons. (I say 'we', what I really mean is he 'comparisoned' the thing to death!)

It was apparent - with every track from a number of genres including The Beatles, some Death Metal band, The Stranglers, solo classical piano and cello, orchestral, Reggae etc. - that the P3-24 had far better timing with the TT-PSU than without.

However, I have not heard the affect of the white belt yet.
 

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The TT-PSU is mostly about the timing. That's where I heard the biggest change when a friend installed one on his P3-24/Denon DL103R set-up.

We did a lot of 'with TT-PSU' and without TT-PSU' comparisons. (I say 'we', what I really mean is he 'comparisoned' the thing to death!)

It was apparent - with every track from a number of genres including The Beatles, some Death Metal band, The Stranglers, solo classical piano and cello, orchestral, Reggae etc. - that the P3-24 had far better timing with the TT-PSU than without.

However, I have not heard the affect of the white belt yet.

I've just removed my TT/PSU and packed it away, I'm happy for the time being with the standard supply and the white belt . . .

Feel a bit deflated at the moment, dont like it when things go wrong, and they certainly have today, been ripped off big time! . . . old problems raise there ugly head when I get like this . . . need to fight, its a new day tomorrow.

CJSF
 

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Hey, hang on in there CJSF.

I feel for you. Easy to say, but don't let it get to you. A proportionate response of despondency, yes, but no too much.

Cogitate, ruminate and let it lead to positivity.

As you say, a new day tomorrow.

Peace.
 

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Hey, hang on in there CJSF.

I feel for you. Easy to say, but don't let it get to you. A proportionate response of despondency, yes, but no too much.

Cogitate, ruminate and let it lead to positivity.

As you say, a new day tomorrow.

Peace.
 

Charlie Jefferson

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Hey, hang on in there CJSF. I feel for you. Easy to say, but don't let it get to you. A proportionate response of despondency, yes, but not too much. Cogitate, ruminate and let it lead to positivity. As you say, a new day tomorrow. Peace.
 

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Charlie Jefferson said:
Hey, hang on in there CJSF. I feel for you. Easy to say, but don't let it get to you. A proportionate response of despondency, yes, but not too much. Cogitate, ruminate and let it lead to positivity. As you say, a new day tomorrow. Peace.

Hay Charlie . . . cogitated, ruminated = positivity . . . I love your way with words:D . . . to day is a new day, a good feeling again . . . proves I can overcome with out the medication!!! :dance:

GLANZ GMC-10EX MC cartridge, been rummaging in the odds and end box, never new I had it, goes back to the early 80's, cant remember if it was a good (well regarded) cartridge, where it might sit in todays MC offereings, anyone got any ideas, shed any light ????

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I have to say CJSF, you have actually put me off a Rega 'table. Well, not just you as it happens, but you've certainly helped. You see, in some ways, I'm the opposite to you when it comes to vinyl. I'm happy to spend the time getting the initial set-up right (cartridge alignment and choice, support/isolation, arm settings etc.) but once it's done I don't want to keep thinking about it. In some ways, a Rega should be ideal for me. AFter all, they promote their decks as fit and forget, particularly when supplied with one of their own cartridges. However, it seems to me from reading around that Rega cartridges aren't necessarily the best option for someone who can't stand Inner Groove Distortion or for somebody who appreciates a touch of bass warmth from their vinyl. Then comes the changing of the cartridge and the temptation to keep messing around with shims, arm mods, platter mods and who knows what else. Even after all that, I'm not overly taken with the basic plinth design of the Regas and when I had an RB250 on a Michell TecnoDec I wasn't actually that taken with the arm. No, it isn't for me!

I've chosen a new turntable. I'll listen to it when I get it and let the cat out of the bag about what it is when I get it, but it should give me exactly what I'm looking for. The only thing I may end up doing is upgrading the stylus on the Ortofon cartridge, or I might consider going for an Ortofon Red or Blue. After that, job done, and time to enjoy listening to my existing vinyl collection and collecting more records!

I can see you're getting a lot out of your quest and I wish you well with it!
 

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I've chosen a new turntable. I'll listen to it when I get it and let the cat out of the bag about what it is when I get it, but it should give me exactly what I'm looking for. The only thing I may end up doing is upgrading the stylus on the Ortofon cartridge...

Thorens? Project? Rega?

I am going to guess Pro-ject Debut III Esprit or Thorens TD190-2.

The Pro-ject?
 

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matthewpiano said:
I have to say CJSF, you have actually put me off a Rega 'table. Well, not just you as it happens, but you've certainly helped. You see, in some ways, I'm the opposite to you when it comes to vinyl. I'm happy to spend the time getting the initial set-up right (cartridge alignment and choice, support/isolation, arm settings etc.) but once it's done I don't want to keep thinking about it. In some ways, a Rega should be ideal for me. AFter all, they promote their decks as fit and forget, particularly when supplied with one of their own cartridges. However, it seems to me from reading around that Rega cartridges aren't necessarily the best option for someone who can't stand Inner Groove Distortion or for somebody who appreciates a touch of bass warmth from their vinyl. Then comes the changing of the cartridge and the temptation to keep messing around with shims, arm mods, platter mods and who knows what else. Even after all that, I'm not overly taken with the basic plinth design of the Regas and when I had an RB250 on a Michell TecnoDec I wasn't actually that taken with the arm. No, it isn't for me!

I've chosen a new turntable. I'll listen to it when I get it and let the cat out of the bag about what it is when I get it, but it should give me exactly what I'm looking for. The only thing I may end up doing is upgrading the stylus on the Ortofon cartridge, or I might consider going for an Ortofon Red or Blue. After that, job done, and time to enjoy listening to my existing vinyl collection and collecting more records!

I can see you're getting a lot out of your quest and I wish you well with it!

How right you are about the 'fit and forget?', only if one is prepared to accept less than the best end product of a musical performance. Obviously compromise will always be required, the Rega is a simple, well engineered product, such simple, base quality items, in whatever walk of life always attract the attention of the 'mod squad', remember the Ford Escort . . .

As you say I enjoy it, I'm coming to the end of what I think I want to do on the TT itself, relax, listen to great music. Attention now turning to other areas??? . . . I may not post the story, I find the 'personal reactions' a little off putting . . . ?

. . . great music comes with effort . . . CJSF
 

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chebby said:
matthewpiano said:
I've chosen a new turntable. I'll listen to it when I get it and let the cat out of the bag about what it is when I get it, but it should give me exactly what I'm looking for. The only thing I may end up doing is upgrading the stylus on the Ortofon cartridge...

Thorens? Project? Rega?

I am going to guess Pro-ject Debut III Esprit or Thorens TD190-2.

The Pro-ject?

I've had my days with Pro-ject ;)
 

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