I/C has now arrived,not set up yet but plan on a few beers and a good listen later,will post findings later on tonight.
Right,initial findings
Connected the Chameleon to line 1 on amp and left the original I/C`s on cd inputs and just swapped them over at the cd end so there was only a few seconds between change overs.Played same track at same volume etc.There was no obvious improvement/difference to my ears save maybe slightly improved bass but this could be placebo as it`s what I was listening for.IMO this could be down to few things;
1.The original I/C`s are of the same quality as the Chameleons
2.My ears are not good enough
3.Cables don`t affect sound much (take cover)
4.NOT ENOUGH BEER
5.A combination of all of the above
Connected the Chameleon to line 1 on amp and left the original I/C`s on cd inputs and just swapped them over at the cd end so there was only a few seconds between change overs.Played same track at same volume etc.There was no obvious improvement/difference to my ears save maybe slightly improved bass but this could be placebo as it`s what I was listening for.IMO this could be down to few things;
1.The original I/C`s are of the same quality as the Chameleons
2.My ears are not good enough
3.Cables don`t affect sound much (take cover)
4.NOT ENOUGH BEER
5.A combination of all of the above
I'm surprised. Mine were substantially more bassy than my vdh. I don't notice it now because I am used to them.
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The conclusions above are only after a quick listen of the same track 3 times so a more in depth listen may show differences.The sound quality is excellent so I`m not disappointed as I needed another pair of I/C`s anyway.I`m in my late 40`s so I`m sure my ears are past their best anyway!
In my mind still a feckless youth but the body is a different story!Now more music,more beer! Will have some interesting observations for you later.
Pmaninit:
I just bought one too!
60 quid on ebay. Hope I hear an improvement
Just a bit of advice for those who have bought second hand,there was a bit of tarnish on the set I got so a treatment with de-oxit or similar might be in order to ensure the best possible connection.
I just bought one too!
60 quid on ebay. Hope I hear an improvement
Just a bit of advice for those who have bought second hand,there was a bit of tarnish on the set I got so a treatment with de-oxit or similar might be in order to ensure the best possible connection.
basshound:In my mind still a feckless youth but the body is a different story!Now more music,more beer! Will have some interesting observations for you later.
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I didn`t have the sub on during the first comparisons as I thought that might mask any difference but on the second more prolonged listen I turned it on and there seemed to be a big (better) change,now I don`t know if this is probable or even possible but the sub seemed to be producing lower,clearer bass. I played 3 very familiar albums and what I can say is that the level of detail was noticeably increased,I was hearing things not apparent before. I connected the Chameleons to the cd input on the amp but again don`t really know if that makes a difference from line 1 during the A/B comparisons.
Overall I think my original I/C`s (£20 off e-bay) were the weak link in my set up and am now very pleased I took Joels` advice
Overall I think my original I/C`s (£20 off e-bay) were the weak link in my set up and am now very pleased I took Joels` advice
I think the only comparison you can do is against what you are used to hearing. As I said I was surprised by the amount of bass vs my old cable, and no loss of top end either. Glad you're pleased, but at the end of the day a cable is a cable and it can only really refine rather than completely alter. Mine altered more than I expected it to.
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basshound:JoelSim:
I had you down as much younger!
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BTW how much younger?!
Well, given the dub reggae etc, about 20 years...
Old bloke
And at your age, I would recommend a good bottle of red over beer for an involving listen
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I had you down as much younger!
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BTW how much younger?!
Well, given the dub reggae etc, about 20 years...
Old bloke
And at your age, I would recommend a good bottle of red over beer for an involving listen
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basshound:Pmaninit:
I just bought one too!
60 quid on ebay. Hope I hear an improvement
Just a bit of advice for those who have bought second hand,there was a bit of tarnish on the set I got so a treatment with de-oxit or similar might be in order to ensure the best possible connection.
Brasso worked very well indeed on all of my I/Cs, bananas, plug pins and fuses (gasp). The amount of black that came off was surprising.
I just bought one too!
60 quid on ebay. Hope I hear an improvement
Just a bit of advice for those who have bought second hand,there was a bit of tarnish on the set I got so a treatment with de-oxit or similar might be in order to ensure the best possible connection.
Brasso worked very well indeed on all of my I/Cs, bananas, plug pins and fuses (gasp). The amount of black that came off was surprising.
igglebert:basshound:Pmaninit:
I just bought one too!
60 quid on ebay. Hope I hear an improvement
Just a bit of advice for those who have bought second hand,there was a bit of tarnish on the set I got so a treatment with de-oxit or similar might be in order to ensure the best possible connection.Brasso worked very well indeed on all of my I/Cs, bananas, plug pins and fuses (gasp). The amount of black that came off was surprising.
Now do I spend a score on some deoxit gold for my already bloomin' expensive Clearer Audio Silverlines or is that just too nerdy?
I think it would push the better half over the edge
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I just bought one too!
60 quid on ebay. Hope I hear an improvement
Just a bit of advice for those who have bought second hand,there was a bit of tarnish on the set I got so a treatment with de-oxit or similar might be in order to ensure the best possible connection.Brasso worked very well indeed on all of my I/Cs, bananas, plug pins and fuses (gasp). The amount of black that came off was surprising.
Now do I spend a score on some deoxit gold for my already bloomin' expensive Clearer Audio Silverlines or is that just too nerdy?
I think it would push the better half over the edge
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matengawhat
Well-known member
they do tarnish easily - i didn't clean mine before sending for fear of wiping off any of the chord logo's/print - thought would leave that to the buyer - its def worth cleaning all your connectors!!
igglebert:Brasso from Tescos!
Do they sell it anywhere else? I don't do Tescos.
And I can't imagine it sounding any good at £2.49, you need to spend hundreds on true audiophile stuff don't you. I bought a placebo the other day, and that cost me £550 on fleabay. Good tho', great effect
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Do they sell it anywhere else? I don't do Tescos.
And I can't imagine it sounding any good at £2.49, you need to spend hundreds on true audiophile stuff don't you. I bought a placebo the other day, and that cost me £550 on fleabay. Good tho', great effect
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Sainsburys will do. Tesco are horrible, nasty culture. Worked with them for about a year and they were just rude and expected everything for nothing.
Call me old fashioned but I will work my socks off for a nice client.
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Call me old fashioned but I will work my socks off for a nice client.
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matengawhat:they do tarnish easily - i didn't clean mine before sending for fear of wiping off any of the chord logo's/print - thought would leave that to the buyer - its def worth cleaning all your connectors!!
So it's dirt? I thought the silver had rubbed off....?
So how do I clean it?
What shall i use/buy that's not expensive? ??
So it's dirt? I thought the silver had rubbed off....?
So how do I clean it?
What shall i use/buy that's not expensive? ??
matengawhat
Well-known member
i never overly clean stuff now before sending as once wiped all the function buttns off a remote as was trying to make it look perfect - left in unusable!!!
its just like silver jewellery it tarnishes over time with exposure to the air
its def dirt - the inside that connects will be virtually clean as they have always been plugged in to the cdp/amp its just the outer casing - silver tarnishes with air - any de-oxit cleaner will do, mentioned above is brasso and i guess prob silver cleaner.
if you clean them make sure what ever you use is well rubbed off and make sure everything is dry/no residue before reconnecting
also clean all you plug pins, interconnects, banana plugs ect
its just like silver jewellery it tarnishes over time with exposure to the air
its def dirt - the inside that connects will be virtually clean as they have always been plugged in to the cdp/amp its just the outer casing - silver tarnishes with air - any de-oxit cleaner will do, mentioned above is brasso and i guess prob silver cleaner.
if you clean them make sure what ever you use is well rubbed off and make sure everything is dry/no residue before reconnecting
also clean all you plug pins, interconnects, banana plugs ect
matengawhat:don't worry - its been well looked after and as i said only reason for change is had to buy a 1m one due to my new rack as the mf amp has outputs at opposite ends of the amp and i needed to put my power amp to the left or right instead of below. i have bought another Chord Chameleon as think its a great cable and sure you will see a good improvement over what ever you are currently using.
We believe you (thousands wouldn't)
We believe you (thousands wouldn't)
Christ on a bike they're expensive (deoxit), might as well have bought a brand new one for the price of mine + deoxit!
I think I'll leave it dirty...
I think I'll leave it dirty...
You can get a 2ml tube of deoxit from e-bay for around £7 plus postage,it`s a very small tube but it goes a long way,cleaned all my connections and still have a fair bit left
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