Cambridge Audio DacMagic 200M good value for money?

[landco]

The Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro needs 250-Ohm to run,

Is it a great day for this guy to think, do he need such "tight" headphones at home? Or should we leave this artifact of the past - in the past?

 

[Jasonovich]

Is it a great day for this guy to think, do he need such "tight" headphones at home? Or should we leave this artifact of the past - in the past?

Votre langage cryptique me vexe, mais peut-être que je suis juste idiot. S'il vous plaît, pourriez-vous m'expliquer gentiment que la vieillesse me vieillit. Merci

 

[landco]

Votre langage cryptique me vexe, mais peut-être que je suis juste idiot. S'il vous plaît, pourriez-vous m'expliquer gentiment que la vieillesse me vieillit. Merci

It’s about 250 ohms being too much and too inconvenient, what’s the point if you can’t buy a nice headset more than 30 ohms?

 

[Jasonovich]

It’s about 250 ohms being too much and too inconvenient, what’s the point if you can’t buy a nice headset more than 30 ohms?

I don't know man, I was asking, maybe there's 30 ohms version of the DT 1990?
Some Android phones, like some of the Sony Xperia have special output jacks for headphones.

 

[Gray]

It’s about 250 ohms being too much and too inconvenient

Well not for the subject of this thread.
CA recommend headphones of up to 600 ohms for the 200M.

 

[landco]

Well not for the subject of this thread.
CA recommend headphones of up to 600 ohms for the 200M.

For a quality audition enough to buy headphones no more than 30 ohm. No point buying a CA.

 

[Gray]

For a quality audition enough to buy headphones no more than 30 ohm. No point buying a CA.

No more than 30 ohms?
Stick to that rule and you'll be excluding a hell of a lot of headphone models from your audition.

With such a limited choice, it might indeed be best to forget the idea of any headphone amp.

 

[landco]

No more than 30 ohms?
Stick to that rule and you'll be excluding a hell of a lot of headphone models from your audition.

With such a limited choice, it might indeed be best to forget the idea of any headphone amp.

Headphones 250, 300, 600 ohm - this is atavism, a relic of the past. It is inconvenient. Why do you need this? It is better to use 30 ohm headphones, you will not need to buy an amplifier.

Most audiophiles do not know that high-resistance headphones were relevant 30, 40 years ago, when the audio path was imperfect, with a low signal/noise ratio. Now this problem is irrelevant, but many (including you) continue to buy it.

 

[Jasonovich]

Headphones 250, 300, 600 ohm - this is atavism, a relic of the past. It is inconvenient. Why do you need this? It is better to use 30 ohm headphones, you will not need to buy an amplifier.

Most audiophiles do not know that high-resistance headphones were relevant 30, 40 years ago, when the audio path was imperfect, with a low signal/noise ratio. Now this problem is irrelevant, but many (including you) continue to buy it.

If I can interject here, there are benefits for both. Higher Ohms are largely used in professional studios, where high sound levels are recorded, high Ohms prevents the headphone from overloading, 30 Ohms isn't going to cut it in a professional studio. Check this link.

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[Dom]

Headphones 250, 300, 600 ohm - this is atavism, a relic of the past. It is inconvenient. Why do you need this?

To put it simply, higher quality sound.

 

[landco]

If I can interject here, there are benefits for both. Higher Ohms are largely used in professional studios, where high sound levels are recorded, high Ohms prevents the headphone for overloading. Check this link.

This forum discusses home audio, so thank you for your comment, but it is not relevant to the topic.

 

[Jasonovich]

This forum discusses home audio, so thank you for your comment, but it is not relevant to the topic.

Happy to assist but if you read between the lines, what I was alluding to, if you pair this with appropriate head amplifier you will experience better sound quality from your high Ohm headset!

If you only want to listen to your music on your mobile or DAP, 30 or less Ohm headphones should suffice.
It isn't relic at all, there's a purpose for both low and high Ohms headsets.

 

[landco]

Happy to assist but if you read between the lines, what I was alluding to, if you pair this with appropriate head amplifier you will experience better sound quality from your high Ohm headset!

If you only want to listen your music on your mobile or DAP, 30 or less Ohm headphones should suffice.
It isn't relic at all, there's a purpose for both low and high Ohms headsets.

It’s about overload, are you often overloaded listening to music at home? It has nothing to do with sound quality. Low resistance headphones sound just as good as high headphones.

 

[Gray]

Most audiophiles do not know that high-resistance headphones were relevant 30, 40 years ago, when the audio path was imperfect, with a low signal/noise ratio. Now this problem is irrelevant, but many (including you) continue to buy it.

I don't 'buy' anything 🙂.
You're funny.

.... mereley making the point that most people buy with sound quality as the main criteria.....not a desire for the lowest impedance - just for the sake of it 👍

 

[Dom]

I looked up the HIFIMAN HE-R10 Planar Version- Stealth Magnets at $5500 and they are 30 Ohms, one of the advantages of using planar magnetic headphones, it seems.

 

[Jasonovich]

It’s about overload, are you often overloaded listening to music at home? It has nothing to do with sound quality. Low resistance headphones sound just as good as high headphones.

Sound quality is much to do with the quality components used but it's fair to assume manufacturers like Beyer make them this way because there's a specific market for them both in the studio and home. You can't just go on a rant and call it an 'artifact of the past' and it's also naive to assume that manufacturers are daft, they put far more research into this, that surpasses any of the rhetoric on this thread.

Let me add some pretext to this Ohms debate; my Hifiman Edition XS Planar Magnet headphone isn't the easiest to drive, however. It has a low impedance of only 18 ohms, but don't let that fool you. With a sensitivity of only 92dB, they need more power than the average dongle dac can provide to sound their best.

 

[MerseyMal]

The Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro needs 250-Ohm to run, it's great your Android phone is taming the beast or are you using a headphone dongle with your Android?

My headphones are connected to the DAC's headphone output and the DAC is connected to my phone via USB.

 

[Jasonovich]

My headphones are connected to the DAC's headphone output and the DAC is connected to my phone via USB.

Ah that makes perfect sense, Thanks for clarifying 😊