Buying p7s on eBay. Warranty from b&w?

[john1000000boy]

What headphones did u go for instead of the p7s? If you don't mind me asking??

john

 

[bigboss]

Demo B&O H6 as well.

 

[dalethorn]

The warranty has to be honored in the UK no matter what if it's a genuine product. Brand new you are pretty much coverd for about 3 to 4 years because headphones are expect to to last for quite a long time. Keep the product number and serial number and you are good.

"No matter if it's genuine?" What????? If you buy a fake Sennheiser, do you think Sennheiser will honor a warranty? When you get a fake, you may get a "warranty" from whoever made or sold it, but when they send a replacement (several months later) it's not even going to sound the same.

Probably want a comma between "no matter what" and "if its a genuine product" to get the intended meaning?

Correct, in this case at least. But having dealt with fakes a lot, it's a big problem and we shouldn't say anything to encourage buying fakes, any more than downloading music illegally.

No one is encouraging the buying of fakes as far as I can see, you just misunderstood Ryan's post because of the missed comma. Possibly as well, the phrase "no matter what" is peculiar to 'English' English and not used in the same way in 'American' English? I don't know.

To say that "no one is encouraging the buying of fakes" is illogical. Of course people do that, and the implication here in this thread allowed for that. I was the only one who pointed out not only the problems for the customer, but the illegality as well.

 

[duaplex]

What headphones did u go for instead of the p7s? If you don't mind me asking??

john

Hi John was that aimed at me?

I didnt buy any in the end. I was flying out that day and realised I had no travelling headphones. I decided to pop into the store and was looking at the Bose QC15 when the P7 caught my eye.

It would have been an impulsive buy for me, so I walked away from the store, painfully mind you!

One other thing to bare in mind with these headphones - They look very expensive, so travelling with them makes me feel uneasy. Maybe something to think about if anyone is planning to get on trains etc.

 

[john1000000boy]

What headphones did u go for instead of the p7s? If you don't mind me asking??

john

Hi John was that aimed at me?

I didnt buy any in the end. I was flying out that day and realised I had no travelling headphones. I decided to pop into the store and was looking at the Bose QC15 when the P7 caught my eye.

It would have been an impulsive buy for me, so I walked away from the store, painfully mind you!

One other thing to bare in mind with these headphones - They look very expensive, so travelling with them makes me feel uneasy. Maybe something to think about if anyone is planning to get on trains etc.

Sorry duaplex, yes question was for you. A good point about the flashiness. My main use will be for listening to spotify in bed, the few train journeys and the even fewer flights I go on. 99% of the time they will be used with my iPad Air in the house

Fed up with beats. Although they are quite good lying on your side with a pillow, as they don't dig into the side of your head too much. They do make a horrendous screeching noise if you do push the ear cups too hard to your ear. The p7s design will not be as good for pillow listening I am guessing. Perhaps the b&os maybe better,

no idea when I will get through to Edinburgh though...

Can u plug in your own devices in John Lewis?? (Edinburgh).

Thanks

john

 

[duaplex]

What headphones did u go for instead of the p7s? If you don't mind me asking??

john

Hi John was that aimed at me?

I didnt buy any in the end. I was flying out that day and realised I had no travelling headphones. I decided to pop into the store and was looking at the Bose QC15 when the P7 caught my eye.

It would have been an impulsive buy for me, so I walked away from the store, painfully mind you!

One other thing to bare in mind with these headphones - They look very expensive, so travelling with them makes me feel uneasy. Maybe something to think about if anyone is planning to get on trains etc.

Sorry duaplex, yes question was for you. A good point about the flashiness. My main use will be for listening to spotify in bed, the few train journeys and the even fewer flights I go on. 99% of the time they will be used with my iPad Air in the house

Fed up with beats. Although they are quite good lying on your side with a pillow, as they don't dig into the side of your head too much. They do make a horrendous screeching noise if you do push the ear cups too hard to your ear. The p7s design will not be as good for pillow listening I am guessing. Perhaps the b&os maybe better,

no idea when I will get through to Edinburgh though...

Can u plug in your own devices in John Lewis?? (Edinburgh).

Thanks

john

I'm sure they will allow you to do that if you ask them After all Dixons let me plug in my device, and most retailers understand that need, if they do not, then walk away and order online so you can have your 14 days return periods in tact

You are covering a range of different types of headphones with your needs there. Here are some things to consider and types of headphone:

1. Open back headphones will allow sound leakage but give you a better sound (my opinion) so people around you will hear them, if that is not a problem, then seriously consider having a demo of some sets. Byer Dynamics, Sennheiser and Quincy Jones to name a few. The best headphones on the market are normally open versions that allow for a greater sound stage. If you do not mind on ear sets, then look at Grado too. The one I mentioned before are over ear for comfort, as I noticed that was important for you. Again this all objective.

2. If travelling you are talking about a totally different set altogether and I would look at the Bose QC15. Unlike most noise cancelling sets, these actually sound pretty good and will tick most of your boxes. The P7 will not seal your ear and the noise of a plane will drive you nuts, this includes any open back and even close back headphone.

3. Having read your requirements I would strongly advise you include IEM’s (In ear monitors) The Shure range, especially the 535 is probably the best sounding set I have ever heard in the price range. Don’t be fooled by size. It has a memory foam bud that will expand and fill your ear canal, this allows for decent noise cancellation and submerges you in what you are listening to. I have a pair here and I cannot hear anything when people are talking around me! You can also use them in bed and lay down comfortably for hours and not feel fatigued or experience an aching ear.

This is the reason people have multiple sets of cans/earphones. But If I were in your shoes I would get the Shure as they tick all the boxes you mention, everything else will have a flaw somewhere in a certain situation. Best part, they are not obvious and expensive looking like the P7

Hope that helps on your journey to having some Demo's and do let us know what you decide.

BTW if you loved the Beats, prepare to be amazed by the lest of sets above

 

[john1000000boy]

Thanks for that guide. Some great points.

You have now got me thinking about a flio portable amp now.

I have seen various models. Mont Blanc seems to be the newest or most popular on amazon.

Also seen models with dacs as well.

Need to do some further reading up though...

john

 

[duaplex]

Thanks for that guide. Some great points.

You have now got me thinking about a flio portable amp now.

I have seen various models. Mont Blanc seems to be the newest or most popular on amazon.

Also seen models with dacs as well.

Need to do some further reading up though...

john

No problem,

I have the Mont Blanc myself and I can say its pretty outstanding. As for Dac's, your phone Dac will be fine in this and you dont really need to have a Dac/Amp Fiio. The money is better spent on the E12 which is a dedicated portable Amp built for the that purpose. The others are split 50/50, however having said this, the E11 is also excellent if you want to go down that route and have a Dac too. Best thing to do.... Order from Amazon and try them both out, keep the one you like and return the other..... 14 day DSR applies

You are definitely thinking about it the right way and the Fiio will bring so much more out of the headphones.

 

[john1000000boy]

Hi Duaplex. Sorry been doing some further reading.

There is no mini adapter for iPad Air available...yet.

I gather this would then mean I would be using the dac in the iPad when connecting via the headphone jack.

With the mont blanc there is no dac so... Using the headphone jack is the best/only option.

So therefore I do not need this adapter.

John

 

[buzz_lightclick]

A few people have mentioned the B&O H6 as an alternative to the P7. I considered these, I liked the design, they are much lighter than the P7s and more comfortable to wear, they have an airy spatial sound. However for me, they lacked bass. The P7 accentuates bass a little, but the H6 is somewhat lacking, it's a totally different sound, some may prefer it, best to demo for yourself.

 

[john1000000boy]

Thanks for that reply. Just about pushed the button on amazon for fiio Mont Blanc and p7s. They also sell the the h6 as well. Was thinking of buying the p7s cold and if not happy returning them for the h6. I am 90% sure the p7 will be what I am looking for. May just order the fiio and then go to john Lewis to demo both pairs with the amp in my pocket as duaplex suggested earlier.

The main draw back with amazon being no demo side by side unless I order both pairs and send back the pair I don't like for a refund. Not sure that is allowed though...??

thanks

john

 

[bigboss]

The main draw back with amazon being no demo side by side unless I order both pairs and send back the pair I don't like for a refund. Not sure that is allowed though...??

You can do that. Amazon accepts returns within 30 days I think. If no fault with the product, you would pay for return postage.

 

[dalethorn]

Hi Duaplex. Sorry been doing some further reading. There is no mini adapter for iPad Air available...yet. I gather this would then mean I would be using the dac in the iPad when connecting via the headphone jack. With the mont blanc there is no dac so... Using the headphone jack is the best/only option. So therefore I do not need this adapter. John

Instead of using the headphone jack, get a FiiO LOD cable plus the Apple 30-pin to Lightning adapter (which contains a DAC) and then run the amp from the Lightning port. That way you bypass the iPad volume control amp. Better sound.

 

[john1000000boy]

Hi Duaplex. Sorry been doing some further reading. There is no mini adapter for iPad Air available...yet. I gather this would then mean I would be using the dac in the iPad when connecting via the headphone jack. With the mont blanc there is no dac so... Using the headphone jack is the best/only option. So therefore I do not need this adapter. John

Instead of using the headphone jack, get a FiiO LOD cable plus the Apple 30-pin to Lightning adapter (which contains a DAC) and then run the amp from the Lightning port. That way you bypass the iPad volume control amp. Better sound.

That is exactly what I was after.

I saw fiio didn't do a lightening version of their cable. Adapter will be perfect.

Quite a price difference between different models on eBay. Any preferences??

thanks

john

 

[JoelSim]

Personally I would avoid buying any headphones on eBay. Most manufacturers won't allow their retailers to sell on eBay. That's before any issues with grey market imports which don't carry a warranty, or worse still, fakes.

 

[john1000000boy]

Thanks Joel. Was going to go to amazon or john Lewis for them.

John

 

[john1000000boy]

The models in my previous post were for the lightening adapters.

There is a large selection and some mention they are for chargeing only and do not pass audio through them.

Anyone with experience of a particular model??

Thanks

john

 

[bigboss]

Why don't you go for the official adapter?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B009A5EIWC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1397938611&sr=1-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

 

[dalethorn]

Why don't you go for the official adapter?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B009A5EIWC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1397938611&sr=1-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

Thanks for recommending and pointing out.

 

[john1000000boy]

Thanks Bb will get an official one I think. Now need to get to a store....