Better Spekers than Triangle Borea BR03

[npxavar]

Keep the Triangle BRO3 and buy the NAD C316BEE V2 ( £299 new )and thank me later

Pefect advice! If you like the general sound signature of the AXA25 going to Marantz is not a good idea. Buy the C326BEE if you can afford it, your speakers have a lot of potential.

 

[matthewpianist]

Pefect advice! If you like the general sound signature of the AXA25 going to Marantz is not a good idea. Buy the C326BEE if you can afford it, your speakers have a lot of potential.

I agree with the NAD recommendation, but they no longer make the C326BEE, so that would have to be a secondhand purchase. The C316BEE v2 is very much on a par.

 

[npxavar]

Looks like it's the only class A/B integrated they make now.

 

[Al ears]

Looks like it's the only class A/B integrated they make now.

Most of their items are now hybrid digital DAC Amplifiers apart from the C316BEE v2

 

[dommaku2]

OK - what I gather is:
1. Triangle have potential
2. NAD 316BEE V2 is best candidate

one extra question:
I listened and compared Cambridge AXA25 with (£600) Audiolab 6000A for me I could not tell much difference. I switched sound back and forth but they seemed similar. In contrast when I added DAC magic 100 to my current set up I heard significant difference as compared to Mac Book minijack as source.

- Can NAD 316BEE v2 (£300) really be much better than Cambridge AXA 25 (£250)?

To add some taste info:
- I used to have bigger flat and there Onkyo 8150 + Canton GLE 470 - this is my baseline for decent sound that I am after (or better) that I can't get now from my set up.
- Pioneer A-10K Amp sounded awful

 

[npxavar]

The Audiolab 6000a includes an unshielded digital section. Beacause the quality of the digital section is otherwise high (plus a few extra watts in driving power) this makes for a more expensive amp, but with a less clear sound. All analogue rules!

 

[npxavar]

Having said that, you may be missing the bass extension which makes for a fuller sound. Maybe you need to look into 6+ inch speakers that the AXA25 can drive. Hi-fi can be tricky.

 

[dommaku2]

Thanks which model have 6 inch ?

 

[Al ears]

Thanks which model have 6 inch ?

He means models with a greater than 6 inch woofer that are efficient I presume as he isn't very clear...
There are loads....

 

[npxavar]

Thanks which model have 6 inch ?

Almost every well-known company has one at your price range. What you have is 6,5. However it is not only about sensitivity/efficiency.

You have to audition. It is hit or miss for this kind of power rating and price.

 

[gasolin]

Having said that, you may be missing the bass extension which makes for a fuller sound. Maybe you need to look into 6+ inch speakers that the AXA25 can drive. Hi-fi can be tricky.

The amp is only rated for 8 ohm speeaker's ,Triangle Borea BR03 are 4 ohm

Triangle Borea BR03: Seite 5 - i-fidelity.net

www.i-fidelity.net

 

[npxavar]

This site has paired the Triangle Borea BR03 with the Cambridge Audio CXA61 for its review.

Comments on bass for the reviews of Audiolab 6000A and the CXA61

Audiolab 6000A: "bass is pulled taut"
CXA61: "thumping basslines", "digs up low level details"

 

[matthewpianist]

Most of their items are now hybrid digital DAC Amplifiers apart from the C316BEE v2

Their hybrid amps are VERY good, especially the C368. They've largely slipped under the radar, which is a shame. Probably not helped by being available at only one chain which happens to be the UK importer.

 

[dommaku2]

I booked richer sounds will see about Focal Aria 906 on axa25

then I need to go to seven oaks and see if i can brrow NAD

it looks 3 people vouch for NAD thanks!
I just need to hear it

 

[dommaku2]

I noticed - on really low volume "singer" is louder in one speaker.
Just to be sure I bought new pair of cables with banana plugs.
I tried again problem persist.
I switched plugs different way round. Problem persist in another speaker.

So the issue is either amp or a song (I guess the amp who would make a song where vocal is sterowise less loud in one ppeaker?)

 

[npxavar]

This is channel imbalance in the amplifier. You can use the "balance" knob to fix it. Low volume creates imbalance for cheap volume control pots.

 

[gasolin]

This is channel imbalance in the amplifier. You can use the "balance" knob to fix it. Low volume creates imbalance for cheap volume control pots.

That is normal on cheap amps on a turntabel the problem shouldn't be noticeable

 

[WayneKerr]

I noticed - on really low volume "singer" is louder in one speaker.
Just to be sure I bought new pair of cables with banana plugs.
I tried again problem persist.
I switched plugs different way round. Problem persist in another speaker.

So the issue is either amp or a song (I guess the amp who would make a song where vocal is sterowise less loud in one ppeaker?)

Is this on only one track or across all tracks?

 

[dommaku2]

I don't know what happened
I started thorough testing of my hi fi again this time on TIDAL and sound is great now. My wife also said its better.
I suspect
- old cables were faulty
or new DAC went through warm up period
Or TIDAL is better than spotify / apple music hmmm

 

[Al ears]

I don't know what happened
I started thorough testing of my hi fi again this time on TIDAL and sound is great now. My wife also said its better.
I suspect
- old cables were faulty
or new DAC went through warm up period
Or TIDAL is better than spotify / apple music hmmm

Tidal is perhaps better, Quboz is also.
DACs don't warm up....

 

[dommaku2]

Tidal is perhaps better, Quboz is also.
DACs don't warm up....

I have impression it's Tidal indeed. Testing now back and forth. It feels it reduces some harshness that I used to hear, sound is more velvety, fuller at same volume. I don't get tired, it's enjoyable. I got impression Spotify is tiring. Like same song wind of change by Scorpions and other.
The difference is very subtle, its like same song with some very fine detail there that makes the difference.

wow now checked Modern Talking Album all songs in Master in Tidal vs regular Spotify - Tidal so much more Exciting, Full mmm pleasure

 

[npxavar]

What is the quality setting on Spotify? I assume you are using the Spotify app.

 

[dommaku2]

I have tested using Spotify Premium via Web Player

- as I am reading now web is 256 kbit/s vs app 320 kbit/s

 

[npxavar]

Can you test what is the performance of your system with the Spotify app and sound quality set to "Very High" (this is 320kbps)?

 

[rainsoothe]

The Aria 906, much like the BR03, would be waisted with an amp like the AXA25. The Nad suggestions are great, also an Arcam (maybe sh FMJ A19 or A29) or the Creek Evo 2 suggestions are all very good. A used Roksan Kandy K2 or Caspian m2 are also well worth looking into.

Also, I'd partly blame it on the DacMagic.