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[Ajani]

Do you think any evidence ever existed to support their claim, then, lemon ?

JC

I know the question wasn't directed at me, but here goes my 2 cents:

I rather doubt such a claim as "This means you get stable, clear output, exactly as intended, without any distortion ..." could be substantiated. I suspect it was more a case of too much bragging about the product and not being careful with the wording.

 

[Ajani]

In fairness, the second complaint was upheld because the patent had run out, and the first because they hadn't provided enough evidence. Neither exactly super serious offences.

Besides, couldn't help wondering which speaker company had made the complaint...

The fact that his patent ran out over 10 years ago, actually gives some evidence to support Alacrity's claim of working on this tech for around 20 years.

Also of note, is that neither complaint is about whether the speakers produce bass as claimed (which, IMO, is the real selling point).

Can a patent not be reapplied for? 10 years would seem a long enough time to have elapsed for a competing manufacturer to snap up such an advantageous technology. If this tech is as good as claimed, I'd be holding onto it real tight.

Yep. Letting your patent slip is a serious risk. But I suppose it's less risky if you're relatively unknown (and perhaps inactive at the time). People have to know that you have something of value, for them to make the effort to steal it.

 

[BigH]

Well going by the review they do seem to produce a lot of bass for their size, so maybe he has something, but of course bass is not everything and the review did highlight a few issues with the mid and high notes. I still can't get over how cheap the tweeters are, so for that reason I'm out.

 

[gregvet]

I live in Brighton, so I'm quite tempted to see if I can hear them for myself.

Wonder if that will be easy to arrange?

 

[the record spot]

Sadly I suspect he is genuine, the website has similar nonsense on it if you can bear to look. For example the comment form doesn't have name/email/comment but (and I kid you not) "Appellation"/"E-dress"/"Any pearls of wisdom for our perusal". I think this is meant to be humorous but the phrase "lead balloon" comes to mind.

Chris

I am increasingly depressed at the reaction of some people on this forum in this thread at the Alacrity chap and this is but one example of many.

Most people on this forum wouldn't know how to put one end of a speaker together from the other. They'll grab some info off Google and think they're experts. Personally, I am open-minded enough to give the company some leeway, and on the back of other reviews elsewhere. If these speakers are as good as they are by all accounts, they could be impressive.

I wonder if Mr. Alacrity is perhaps not from the UK or at least a native English speaker? Perhaps some of our gobbier commentators on this thread might consider that before they shoot from the lip.

Personally, I hate the "gang" mentality that's appeared on this thread. It's disgusting and from people who I'd have previously given some credit for having the grey matter upstairs to know better.

 

[Overdose]

I am increasingly depressed at the reaction of some people on this forum in this thread at the Alacrity chap and this is but one example of many.

Most people on this forum wouldn't know how to put one end of a speaker together from the other. They'll grab some info off Google and think they're experts. Personally, I am open-minded enough to give the company some leeway, and on the back of other reviews elsewhere. If these speakers are as good as they are by all accounts, they could be impressive.

I wonder if Mr. Alacrity is perhaps not from the UK or at least a native English speaker? Perhaps some of our gobbier commentators on this thread might consider that before they shoot from the lip.

Personally, I hate the "gang" mentality that's appeared on this thread. It's disgusting and from people who I'd have previously given some credit for having the grey matter upstairs to know better.

I couldn't agree more.

And to Mr Alacrity, I'd be heading off down to the patent office quick sharp if I were you.

 

[spiny norman]

So hang on, just to get this clear: this is a troll thread started by a user who has never returned to it, jumped on by the AVI crowd, hijacked by another speaker manufacturer for self-publicity, and now being reclaimed by the 'hey hey the gang's all here' AVI crowd again, weighing in mobhanded almost as though guided by a higher power.

Forums, doncha just love 'em?

 

[BenLaw]

So that'll be 0 / 15.

 

[jcbrum]

Well you seem to love 'em, spiny.

What's you definition of a troll, then, - eh spiny ?

JC

 

[spiny norman]

What's you definition of a troll, then, - eh spiny ?

Someone who sets up a thread and then vanishes is a pretty good definition.

What's your definition of a puppet? (Hint: if you're not sure, I am confident Dad will phone you soon with some insight)

 

[the record spot]

What's your definition of a puppet? (Hint: if you're not sure, I am confident Dad will phone you soon with some insight)

Credit where credit's due JC, that was an ace comeback! :clap:

 

[jjbomber]

So hang on, just to get this clear: this is a troll thread started by a user who has never returned to it, jumped on by the AVI crowd, hijacked by another speaker manufacturer for self-publicity, and now being reclaimed by the 'hey hey the gang's all here' AVI crowd again, weighing in mobhanded almost as though guided by a higher power.

Forums, doncha just love 'em?

Almost. Started by an AVI cult member under a new name for the real cult member to post advertising photos. The rest is right, though hijacked almost seems an understatement. It's now being reclaimed by the AVI cult as it's Thursday night. No doubt the cult meeting this morning was devoted to it. Maybe it's pure coincidence that they reclaimed it on a Thursday, or maybe not? Guided by a higher power? The Rev Ashley Myung Moon? Who knows? Whatever, I don't trust either of them.

 

[the record spot]

And yes, re: the OP. 1 post, no sign of since....yeah, well, you know...

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Fascinating. And I thought this was just ...... Hmph

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Easy Steve. New physics.
Karl?? Old physics.

 

[jcbrum]

Credit where credit's due JC, that was an ace comeback! :clap:

Unfortunately though, RS, no more valid , or substantial, than any of his other rather useless posts.

He doesn't do this forum any credit.

JC

 

[the record spot]

Woops, wrong post.

EDIT: On the bright side, could've been JJ!

 

[steve_1979]

As far as a can tell (I'm no expert) but those pages only seem to describe what you claim your speaker can do but it doesn't explain how they actually manage to achieve it.

Jon, would you mind expanding on that description a bit and explain in more detail exactly how your speakers actually work. Thanks. (I apologise if I've misunderstood something in your original description due to my lack of knowlege regarding speaker designs).

Of course I will. Cuz, u kno what? I dont go to dentists anymore. I know how to use a drill and a tub of pollyfil. And Farmers? Bollox. Anyone can put seed in the ground and, like, wait a bit.

Ask a politician how do they do what they do and actually SLEEP at night.

How do you do what you do?

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

Quote from Carl Sagan (astronomer, astrophysicist and cosmologist).

No one else has ever managed to produce a high output at 16Hz from a small 6.5" speaker and yet you claim that you are able to. It's hardly surprising that people in this thread are sceptical of this claim, especially as you've presented yourself in such an unusual manner as you have.

Can you explain how your speakers manage to reproduce such a high output at 16Hz from a 6.5" driver?

 

[lindsayt]

...Can you explain how your speakers manage to reproduce such a high output at 16Hz from a 6.5" driver?

One possible reason would be that the insides of the cabinets of the Alacrity speakers are acting as a Helmholtz resonator. IE similar to someone blowing across the top of a bottle. Topped up with a bit of room reinforcement. Such a design could work really well with sine waves. Less likely to work well with transients. But of course, the proof of the pudding is in the listening, especially in a comparative demo.

Until I hear them I've got an open mind on the Alacrity speakers.

 

[altruistic.lemon]

Apparently subwoofers already use the principles of the helmholtz resonator. Anyone know exactly how that works?

 

[steve_1979]

...Can you explain how your speakers manage to reproduce such a high output at 16Hz from a 6.5" driver?

One possible reason would be that the insides of the cabinets of the Alacrity speakers are acting as a Helmholtz resonator. IE similar to someone blowing across the top of a bottle. Topped up with a bit of room reinforcement. Such a design could work really well with sine waves. Less likely to work well with transients. But of course, the proof of the pudding is in the listening, especially in a comparative demo.

Until I hear them I've got an open mind on the Alacrity speakers.

I'm open minded while being sceptical at the same time. Hopfully Jon's claims are true as it could potentially revolutionize the speaker industry. I think you'll understand if I don't buy any shares in Alacrity speakers just yet though.

I suggest that if/when anyone demos his speakers that they take a recording of sine waves at various different frequencies. It'd be very interesting to know if they really can cleanly reproduce sounds down to 16Hz.

 

[jcbrum]

The Patent Office, presumably, was supplied with details of exactly how these loudspeakers work, which might be accessible somehow ?

Does anyone know the number of the Patent, or who registered it, or who owned it, or when it was registered ?

I seem to remember someone said, somewhere, that it dated back to the 1920s, but who was the owner 10 years ago when it expired ?

Googled info on Alacrity Audio suggests that the company was formed only a few months ago in September 2012.

JC

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Have we seen the last of Jon here? It may be the birth of a well made british product having worthwhile qualities? I think the PR needs to adressed and claims of new physics and subsonic frequencies do little to impress a serious audience at this level. If these units prove to be a worthy option in the market then this thread does nothing to improve its chances save to say it has captured the interest of a handful of us for one reason or another.
Maybe Jon will return in another guise having sent his speakers to some respected reviewers. It is always going to be difficult to get into this market but too many rules of marketing broken here. Good luck to any innovative designers in the UK & I will look out for the progress of the company.
Cheers

 

[relocated]

So hang on, just to get this clear: this is a troll thread started by a user who has never returned to it, jumped on by the AVI crowd, hijacked by another speaker manufacturer for self-publicity, and now being reclaimed by the 'hey hey the gang's all here' AVI crowd again, weighing in mobhanded almost as though guided by a higher power.

Forums, doncha just love 'em?

Almost. Started by an AVI cult member under a new name for the real cult member to post advertising photos. The rest is right, though hijacked almost seems an understatement. It's now being reclaimed by the AVI cult as it's Thursday night. No doubt the cult meeting this morning was devoted to it. Maybe it's pure coincidence that they reclaimed it on a Thursday, or maybe not? Guided by a higher power? The Rev Ashley Myung Moon? Who knows? Whatever, I don't trust either of them.

Oh JJ, does your ranting know no end?

Do you actually ever post anything that doesn't imagine a conspiracy?

You seem to have a Thursday thing, is this the only day that you don't have to wear the white sailcloth smoking jacket with the brown leather and buckle accents?

 

[Covenanter]

You have to admit it's been a very entertaining thread!

Chris