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[DocG]

Hi Jon,

On the website, this concentric model is pictured. What is it? What are the specs like, compared to the other model? Is it the same price range?

Which are the options for auditions outside the UK? Is there a not-satisfied-money-back policy for internet buyers?

Regards.

 

[hoopsontoast]

Its a full-range-driver rather than concentric/coaxial.

My guess its one of these...

http://www.visaton.com/en/chassis_zubehoer/breitband/bg17_8.html

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Sorry can't resist it. Can I bring my friend Hawkins to see them yesterday David?
Please ignore if my humour eludes you. It does most people.
Happy Valentines day. :cheers:

 

[Anonymous]

I'd be sceptical though, ...

How DARE you?

How DARE you?

The Science is GOD here, and you question the Word of The Science?

😛oke:

J+AAt

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe if people just listened to the Caterthuns, or listened to the people that HAVE listened to them, before they arbitrarily make-up their minds that I, all my friends, all my customers, all my retailers all my reviewers (including PAUL MESSENGER), and informed impartial observers are liars.

Welcome to AVI's world....

But the graphs are accurate. They cannot be faked. Show me your graphs. Do they look like mine? Let's test them on your systems.

"Welcome to AVI's world..."

Really? Really? Not one inhabited by any high end manufacturers that rely only on independent distributors and independent reviews?

Really? Not one inhabited by any high end manufacturers tha publish their test results?

Really?

J+AAteam

 

[relocated]

I'd be sceptical though, ...

How DARE you?

How DARE you?

The Science is GOD here, and you question the Word of The Science?

😛oke:

J+AAt

Are you actually anything to do with this speaker company? Or have you fallen out with them and want your bizarre postings to actually hole them below the water-line?

Forum members, can you imagine trying to get any after-sales support from this person????

Congrats fella, you really are making a pigs-ear of this.

 

[Anonymous]

Seems to be something called "acoustic induction" which is responsible for that awesome looking frequency response.

That's right.

If it does work as shown in the graphs, then I think Alacracity Audio really ought to consider licensing the technology to other manufacturers.

Tried it, years ago. Didn't quite work out. I got ill and stuff.

Having a relatively flat frequency down to subsonic levels is impressive for the largest speakers, much less a small monitor.

And the overhang problems it brings, plus the inertia of large drives means you need a dedicated mid-range involving yet MORE problems in drive matching, x-overs, time alignments... The list gets endless...

I would love to hear a pair to determine if that impressive bass response is at the expense of anything else, or just a genuine technological advancement.

I will do whatever I can to help you.

Jon+AATeam

 

[Covenanter]

Sadly I suspect he is genuine, the website has similar nonsense on it if you can bear to look. For example the comment form doesn't have name/email/comment but (and I kid you not) "Appellation"/"E-dress"/"Any pearls of wisdom for our perusal". I think this is meant to be humorous but the phrase "lead balloon" comes to mind.

Chris

 

[Ajani]

These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Seems to be something called "acoustic induction" which is responsible for that awesome looking frequency response. If it does work as shown in the graphs, then I think Alacracity Audio really ought to consider licensing the technology to other manufacturers.

Would love to. Tried it before but no body believed me.

Would love to do it now; Ali bodies from casting manufacturers, stone-slab cabs, yacht birch ply, different build techniques from different furniture craftsmen, a Blitz on the hifi world, all the trades pulling together to get my tech out there in all their different styles. Mmm, with a world beating advantage? YES PLEASE!!!

Having a relatively flat frequency down to subsonic levels is impressive for the largest speakers, much less a small monitor.

I would love to hear a pair to determine if that impressive bass response is at the expense of anything else, or just a genuine technological advancement.

Again, where are you based? It would be my pleasure to arrange such a demonstration for you.

RE Bold point 1: I'm sure you can appreciate that persons will be highly skeptical when someone claims to have developed a real breakthrough in tech. Especially when it's from a small (relatively unknown) company. All you need is patience and to get out more and more review samples to customers, mags and dealers.

You have the attention of many in this thread, including David from FrankHarveyHiFi. Send him a demo pair (don't worry about whether someone at his store wasn't interested in the past or whatever, take advantage of the opportunity in front of you now). You can see how well AVI has done by capturing the attention of members of this forum, you can do the same (assuming your product works as claimed).

Re Bold point 2: It will probably be a while before I'd be able to demo a pair, as I'm currently living in Jamaica. When I move, hopefully there will be a dealer near by.

 

[Ajani]

Sadly I suspect he is genuine, the website has similar nonsense on it if you can bear to look. For example the comment form doesn't have name/email/comment but (and I kid you not) "Appellation"/"E-dress"/"Any pearls of wisdom for our perusal". I think this is meant to be humorous but the phrase "lead balloon" comes to mind.

Chris

Lots of brilliant persons are eccentric (so it is possible that he is legit). There are some especially "interesting" personalities in HiFi. Just check out interviews/online posts from Peter Q (Audio Note), Antony Michaelson (Musical Fidelity and Ashley James (AVI).

 

[Covenanter]

Sadly I suspect he is genuine, the website has similar nonsense on it if you can bear to look. For example the comment form doesn't have name/email/comment but (and I kid you not) "Appellation"/"E-dress"/"Any pearls of wisdom for our perusal". I think this is meant to be humorous but the phrase "lead balloon" comes to mind.

Chris

Lots of brilliant persons are eccentric (so it is possible that he is legit). There are some especially "interesting" personalities in HiFi. Just check out interviews/online posts from Peter Q (Audio Note), Antony Michaelson (Musical Fidelity and Ashley James (AVI).

Maybe but you wouldn't want to be stuck next to him on a long flight would you? :rofl:

Chris

 

[Anonymous]

Are you actually anything to do with this speaker company? Or have you fallen out with them and want your bizarre postings to actually hole them below the water-line?

Forum members, can you imagine trying to get any after-sales support from this person????

Congrats fella, you really are making a pigs-ear of this.

That's right, time for more unverifiable personal accusations against our verifiable scientific proof.

Nice. Like your style.

I'm just abiding by the OP's request for a suggestion for the world's best loudspeaker. I've posted views, opinions, professional reviews, scientific proofs... What do you want, Troll? Who are you spamming for?

J+AATeam

 

[Anonymous]

These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Seems to be something called "acoustic induction" which is responsible for that awesome looking frequency response. If it does work as shown in the graphs, then I think Alacracity Audio really ought to consider licensing the technology to other manufacturers.

Would love to. Tried it before but no body believed me.

Would love to do it now; Ali bodies from casting manufacturers, stone-slab cabs, yacht birch ply, different build techniques from different furniture craftsmen, a Blitz on the hifi world, all the trades pulling together to get my tech out there in all their different styles. Mmm, with a world beating advantage? YES PLEASE!!!

Having a relatively flat frequency down to subsonic levels is impressive for the largest speakers, much less a small monitor.

I would love to hear a pair to determine if that impressive bass response is at the expense of anything else, or just a genuine technological advancement.

Again, where are you based? It would be my pleasure to arrange such a demonstration for you.

RE Bold point 1: I'm sure you can appreciate that persons will be highly skeptical when someone claims to have developed a real breakthrough in tech. Especially when it's from a small (relatively unknown) company. All you need is patience and to get out more and more review samples to customers, mags and dealers.

You have the attention of many in this thread, including David from FrankHarveyHiFi. Send him a demo pair (don't worry about whether someone at his store wasn't interested in the past or whatever, take advantage of the opportunity in front of you now). You can see how well AVI has done by capturing the attention of members of this forum, you can do the same (assuming your product works as claimed).

Re Bold point 2: It will probably be a while before I'd be able to demo a pair, as I'm currently living in Jamaica. When I move, hopefully there will be a dealer near by.

Hi Ajani

You've obviously read the whole thread. Respect, dude. It would be a pleasure to sort a demo for you as soon as you hit the UK.

Dave? You can contact me direct via the publicly available info, a luxury I don't posses for you.

J+AATeam

 

[gregvet]

I'm pretty sure he can be found at his first name followed by @frankharvey.co.uk

I for one would be interested in David's opinion. Certainly can't accuse you of being shy and retiring, can we. Only hope the speakers are a little easier to listen to than the salesman (sorry, couldn't resist 🙂 )

ps I hope posting this is ok, I found the email address online so figured it was public knowledge. If not or against the rules let me know and I will edit.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Thanks - I was beginning to feel a little disappointed I wasnt that easy to contact via the web 🙂

 

[gregvet]

Well I must confess it took me all of three seconds to find 😉

Do let us know if he gets in touch won't you David.

 

[BigH]

Yes I would be interested in a comparison with say Kef 50LSs. To be honest £2,000 is out of my budget.

 

[jcbrum]

Sadly I suspect he is genuine, the website has similar nonsense on it if you can bear to look. For example the comment form doesn't have name/email/comment but (and I kid you not) "Appellation"/"E-dress"/"Any pearls of wisdom for our perusal". I think this is meant to be humorous but the phrase "lead balloon" comes to mind.

Chris

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2012/1/Alacrity-Audio/SHP_ADJ_176028.aspx

JC

 

[Phileas]

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2012/1/Alacrity-Audio/SHP_ADJ_176028.aspx

:rofl:

 

[BenLaw]

Sadly I suspect he is genuine, the website has similar nonsense on it if you can bear to look. For example the comment form doesn't have name/email/comment but (and I kid you not) "Appellation"/"E-dress"/"Any pearls of wisdom for our perusal". I think this is meant to be humorous but the phrase "lead balloon" comes to mind.

Chris

http://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2012/1/Alacrity-Audio/SHP_ADJ_176028.aspx

JC

Oh dear. I wonder what ranting affront your temerity will be met with.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Hopefully Jon Carroll from the company will be able to direct us to new physics reference documents relating to "acoustic inductance measured in Carrolls" from the website. Many of us must wish to investigate the scientific principals demonstrated by these units. Thanks

 

[altruistic.lemon]

In fairness, the second complaint was upheld because the patent had run out, and the first because they hadn't provided enough evidence. Neither exactly super serious offences.

Besides, couldn't help wondering which speaker company had made the complaint...

 

[jcbrum]

Do you think any evidence ever existed to support their claim, then, lemon ?

JC

 

[Ajani]

In fairness, the second complaint was upheld because the patent had run out, and the first because they hadn't provided enough evidence. Neither exactly super serious offences.

Besides, couldn't help wondering which speaker company had made the complaint...

The fact that his patent ran out over 10 years ago, actually gives some evidence to support Alacrity's claim of working on this tech for around 20 years.

Also of note, is that neither complaint is about whether the speakers produce bass as claimed (which, IMO, is the real selling point).

 

[Overdose]

In fairness, the second complaint was upheld because the patent had run out, and the first because they hadn't provided enough evidence. Neither exactly super serious offences.

Besides, couldn't help wondering which speaker company had made the complaint...

The fact that his patent ran out over 10 years ago, actually gives some evidence to support Alacrity's claim of working on this tech for around 20 years.

Also of note, is that neither complaint is about whether the speakers produce bass as claimed (which, IMO, is the real selling point).

Can a patent not be reapplied for? 10 years would seem a long enough time to have elapsed for a competing manufacturer to snap up such an advantageous technology. If this tech is as good as claimed, I'd be holding onto it real tight.