Very interesting Grimaldi! As the DAC XP is based on the DAC X (rrp £1200), are your ears telling you that the modded Beresford (£200 ish) is only marginally and subtly "worse" in SQ? Hmmm, maybe I should hold the potential purchase of the DAC X.....
I know. Maybe my ears are just not that great or something (there is no way that I could tell the difference between one digi IC and another for example).
The best way of describing the difference is that the Beresford sounds a bit more tinny. The DAC-XP is more rounded and fuller but I was surprised (and perhaps a bit annoyed) that the difference was not more pronounced. I guess its just the law of diminishing returns.
It would be interesting to see what the 7520 sounds like with a poorer quality source or airport express streaming - I will do more testing this week time allowing.
The best way of describing the difference is that the Beresford sounds a bit more tinny. The DAC-XP is more rounded and fuller but I was surprised (and perhaps a bit annoyed) that the difference was not more pronounced. I guess its just the law of diminishing returns.
It would be interesting to see what the 7520 sounds like with a poorer quality source or airport express streaming - I will do more testing this week time allowing.
chebby
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I am intrigued.
Why so much effort (and expense of course) to prove that a £185 DAC does not sound quite as good as a £1200 one ?
(Mind you, many TC-7520 users go on about how it improves after a good run-in period so perhaps final 'judgement' should wait for a week or so if you believe in the importance of run-in too.)
Why so much effort (and expense of course) to prove that a £185 DAC does not sound quite as good as a £1200 one ?
(Mind you, many TC-7520 users go on about how it improves after a good run-in period so perhaps final 'judgement' should wait for a week or so if you believe in the importance of run-in too.)
What expense? I need another affordable Dac with built in headphone amp for listening away from my main kit so I didn't buy it just for a test or comparison.
Also I think you are missing the point. It comes very close to the Cyrus I.e. I expected the gap to be much wider given the price differential.
Also I think you are missing the point. It comes very close to the Cyrus I.e. I expected the gap to be much wider given the price differential.
chebby
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Sorry Grimaldi. I only partly read the last couple of updates in this now very long thread and got the impression you were a bit annoyed by the Beresford for not matching the performance of the DAC-XP.
I have now read your previous updates more carefully and see that you were actually suprised/annoyed that the differences between the £185 Beresford and the £1200 DAC-XP were not as big as you would expect from their relative prices.
I would be thrilled if I had bought something - for a fraction of the price of a high end component - that performed so well.* That is excellent value for money surely?
*Oh, hang on... I did
I have now read your previous updates more carefully and see that you were actually suprised/annoyed that the differences between the £185 Beresford and the £1200 DAC-XP were not as big as you would expect from their relative prices.
I would be thrilled if I had bought something - for a fraction of the price of a high end component - that performed so well.* That is excellent value for money surely?
*Oh, hang on... I did
Haha, no worries, it is a long thread. I think the Beresford represents excellent value for money.
I wonder if the sound will change in the coming weeks and how the headphone amp compares to the MF X-can v3. I believe in burn-in to a certain degree (a day or so) but beyond that I think the user simply gets used to the sound
I wonder if the sound will change in the coming weeks and how the headphone amp compares to the MF X-can v3. I believe in burn-in to a certain degree (a day or so) but beyond that I think the user simply gets used to the sound
Sorry if I missed the post, but is the standard out the box comparison without any modifications? I gave mine a substantial burn in, I think it peaked at around 50h. Though I continually surprised with the performance as I try different types of music music.
Very interesting all of this !!!
I want to use my laptop through the 7520 usb when i get one.
Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Thanks !!!
I want to use my laptop through the 7520 usb when i get one.
Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Thanks !!!
chebby
Well-known member
Mr TI:Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Completely independent of the computer's soundcard.
As you say, it bypasses it.
Completely independent of the computer's soundcard.
As you say, it bypasses it.
chebby:
Mr TI:Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Completely independent of the computer's soundcard.
As you say, it bypasses it.
Thanks Chebby !!!
Mr TI:Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Completely independent of the computer's soundcard.
As you say, it bypasses it.
Thanks Chebby !!!
chebby:
Mr TI:Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Completely independent of the computer's soundcard.
As you say, it bypasses it.
Will the sound be quite a significant difference ?
Thanks Again !!
Mr TI:Can you tell me if with this setup the sound will depend on what sort/quality sound card is in the laptop or does it bypass the sound card ?
Completely independent of the computer's soundcard.
As you say, it bypasses it.
Will the sound be quite a significant difference ?
Thanks Again !!
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