Well, they were better than last year's Full HD Panasonics and Samsungs but both those companies are launching new models this year whereas Pioneer aren't launching anymore HD Ready models. The 508XD is still considered one of the best sets out there and is only outperformed, currently, by the Full HD Pioneers. However this may change with the release of the new Panasonic 50" Full HD sets. They won't be as good as the Pioneer with Standard Definition but are sure to be very good with HD.