Arcam A19 upgrade speakers

[paulselwood]

I got Arcam A19 and Epos epic 1 speakers. I now looking at changing speakers, as would like bit more detail.

Cheaper the better.

Thanks Paul Selwood

 

[Ketan Bharadia]

We've got good results with the Arcam A19 driving B&W's 685s.

 

[JoelSim]

Arcam also works well with Dali and ProAc in my experience.

 

[Happy_Listener]

We've got good results with the Arcam A19 driving B&W's 685s.

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The B&W 685 S2's should give you what your looking for.

 

[Happy_Listener]

We've got good results with the Arcam A19 driving B&W's 685s.

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The B&W 685 S2's should give you what your looking for.

 

[Esra]

As you want more detail you should not rule out Focal Aria 906 and Monitor Audio Silver

 

[Cslt30p]

Like as your case, but my ampli is Rotel RA-12 which is more powerful than your Arcam and i have been considering 685 s2 and floorstander 683s2...

i do like a floorstander speaker but much more cost ... 🙂

 

[paulselwood]

Thanks for the info. I do not like over the top speakers. EG Yellow cones, Sliver cones. Had a listen to R100 & LS50 nice sound, but too flash. Be thinking about DM 2/6 or 2/7.

 

[radiorog]

As far as DM 2/7 for a19, just no!

I demoed these together and I had the amp taken off my consideration list for partnering the dm's within 30 seconds. There was zero bass. The dyns are 4 ohm and I think this may have been why. The amp was also right out of the box (never been used) with only one hour warm up before audition. Also the room was cold which may have strangely effected something, but a definite no from me. You may still like to audition tho.

 

[paulselwood]

Has any one else heard the dynaudio 2/6 or 2/7. What they like for detail.

 

[radiorog]

To me,fantastic for detail. They are fast,responsive too,so i think they make any music clear. I think they are natural sounding. I really rate them very highly.

 

[paulselwood]

Well this morning I had a listen to the D&M 2/7 and D&M 2/6, plus Dali Zensor 5. They were conected to marantz 610, as thinking of getting ome of these. Well zensor 5 first, very nice, lots of backgound and detail. Then next D&M 2/6 lot detail bass and very clear. Last D&M 2/7, they look big lots of bass, could be too big for my room. And then got call is that your car outside, me yes got parking ticket.. So went home.

The people at richer sounds chester, were very helpful. I think will be going back there again in next week or two. And spend some money

 

[paulselwood]

I now looking forward too, buying some new speakers, and if they do not work well with my arcam a 19, will get marantz 610

 

[radiorog]

Good to hear you rate the dm2/7's also. Fwiw,I have mine in a small room...about 4m by 5m and they sound great. I had booming issues for a month...but bought some foam pads to place them on,and after a month or two,I haven't noticed any booming at all since.I have owned them for a year now. I find the extra size just provides a natural sound. 🙂

 

[MickyBlue]

I certainly wouldnt be pairing dynaudios with the Arcam as they are a 4ohm load and need better amplification,

If it were me i would be looking at some PMC DB1i's second hand, these are amazing little speakers and will give you detail in spades, they will also work very well with the arcam.

 

[paulselwood]

The power stage is a class AB design optimised for low noise and distortion with a very wide bandwidth. This means the A19 more than meets the potential demands of today’s 24/96 and 24/192 digital audio sources. The amplifier’s power output characteristics (2x 50w into an 8 ohm load or 2x 90w into a 4 ohm load).

 

[BigH]

The power stage is a class AB design optimised for low noise and distortion with a very wide bandwidth. This means the A19 more than meets the potential demands of today’s 24/96 and 24/192 digital audio sources. The amplifier’s power output characteristics (2x 50w into an 8 ohm load or 2x 90w into a 4 ohm load).

Where did you get that from?

 

[paulselwood]

I did a search Arcam A19 4 Ohms

 

[BigH]

I did a search Arcam A19 4 Ohms

Looks like manufacturers claimed figures.

I looked at stereophile's review and found this "I didn't test the A19's power delivery into 2 ohms, as it had difficulty with low impedances. For example, I had some problems when I tried to measure how the percentage of THD+N changes with frequency. Usually, I choose a level where I can be sure I am seeing actual distortion rather than noise when I look at the THD+N vs power graphs. I first tried plotting the THD+N at 9V, which is equivalent to 10W into 8 ohms or 20W into 4 ohms. However, as you can see in fig.9, the THD+N into 4 ohms (cyan and magenta traces) rises dramatically below 125Hz. This is because, with continuous drive into 4 ohms at this level, the A19's protection circuit cuts in at frequencies below the midrange. Investigating this, it appears that the amplifier will protect itself when asked to deliver a low-frequency signal at more than 15W into 4 ohms for more than 5 seconds or so. I therefore repeated this test at a level of 2.83V, equivalent to 1W into 8 ohms or 2W into 4 ohms. Now all appears well (fig.10), with the small rise in THD at the top of the audioband due to the circuit's reduced open-loop bandwidth in this region."

 

[BigH]

I did a search Arcam A19 4 Ohms

Looks like manufacturers claimed figures.

Stereophile's measurements: the A19 clips at 61W into 8 ohms (17.7dBW) and 85Wpc into 4 ohms (16.3dBW)—slightly more and slightly less, respectively, than the specified maximum powers of 50Wpc into 8 ohms (17dBW) and 90Wpc into 4 ohms (16.5dBW).

I looked at stereophile's review and found this "I didn't test the A19's power delivery into 2 ohms, as it had difficulty with low impedances. For example, I had some problems when I tried to measure how the percentage of THD+N changes with frequency. Usually, I choose a level where I can be sure I am seeing actual distortion rather than noise when I look at the THD+N vs power graphs. I first tried plotting the THD+N at 9V, which is equivalent to 10W into 8 ohms or 20W into 4 ohms. However, as you can see in fig.9, the THD+N into 4 ohms (cyan and magenta traces) rises dramatically below 125Hz. This is because, with continuous drive into 4 ohms at this level, the A19's protection circuit cuts in at frequencies below the midrange. Investigating this, it appears that the amplifier will protect itself when asked to deliver a low-frequency signal at more than 15W into 4 ohms for more than 5 seconds or so. I therefore repeated this test at a level of 2.83V, equivalent to 1W into 8 ohms or 2W into 4 ohms. Now all appears well (fig.10), with the small rise in THD at the top of the audioband due to the circuit's reduced open-loop bandwidth in this region."

 

[paulselwood]

Thanks for the info. Very good reading. The speakers which I will be getting are the dynaudio D&M 2/6, which are rated at 6 ohms I think. So if I was to change my amp, too all one system, it should be ok.

 

[BigH]

Thanks for the info. Very good reading. The speakers which I will be getting are the dynaudio D&M 2/6, which are rated at 6 ohms I think. So if I was to change my amp, too all one system, it should be ok.

Change to an all one system? If you mean Marantz 610 I would be very careful.

 

[MickyBlue]

i agree..

begs the question.. why ask for advise then completly ignore it!

I think the OP needs to go to a reputable hi-fi store and obtain some decent advise before buying from richer sounds.

 

[BigH]

I agree I think you need to take your time, choosing hifi canbe time consuming, it seems you have ended up with an Arcam amp. Why did you choose that? Now if you buy the Dyns and you don't like them you will buy a all in one system? I don't think the dyns will be the best choice for a all in one system.

 

[paulselwood]

First I have listen to you all. Second the dynaudio 2/6 are easy to drive speakers. Third I have 3 demos, with the marantz 610 plus my arcam a19. and last yes I have been reputable stores. All shops do is want your money.

I had all in one systems before, when I live in fat.. Then move house got separates again. The main reason I wanted demo on marantz 610, if that some time in the future if I move, to a small flat I know that the marantz will work well with the speakers.

Also if you do a search marantz & DM 2/6, people do have that set up and are happy with it.

So why do you think the dyn will not work well with the marantz.? ? ?