android box

[flashgordon1952]

I have a firestick connected to one of my TVs the other has Sky why should i buy a Android what if any advantages is there ?

 

[Jasonovich]

I have a firestick connected to one of my TVs the other has Sky why should i buy a Android what if any advantages is there ?

There's Android media player and there's Android TV.
I decided few years ago to cancel my BBC TV licence, What's the point I get everything on streaming.
The Android media player is like a general purpose media player and can be quirky to use.

An Android TV is designed for streaming and much more intuitive.
You got pay per view, you got free channels or you can subscribed to Amazon, Netflix, Apple and others.

I've taken some photos to give you some idea but you're right, you may not need if you already have Amazon Fire stick

 

[Shrek]

I have a firestick connected to one of my TVs the other has Sky why should i buy a Android what if any advantages is there ?

no you dont need one you can get all the apps on firestick and sky .

 

[Shrek]

im now wondering why am i still paying for a TV licence i never use the bbc app.

 

[Jasonovich]

im now wondering why am i still paying for a TV licence i never use the bbc app.

Ditch it, you won't regret it but you have to do it properly.
You can download properly worded legal letter from the internet.
This will stop them harassing you with unsolicited visits.
Most of BBC dramas are on Netflix anyway 😊

 

[Al ears]

Ditch it, you won't regret it but you have to do it properly.
You can download properly worded legal letter from the internet.
This will stop them harassing you with unsolicited visits.
Most of BBC dramas are on Netflix anyway 😊

Can you. I thought if your TV was capable of receiving BBC broadcasts then you had to have a license?

 

[jjbomber]

Can you. I thought if your TV was capable of receiving BBC broadcasts then you had to have a license?

No, you must not watch any live TV if you don't have a licence, nor any of the BBC TV services like iPlayer.

 

[Jasonovich]

Can you. I thought if your TV was capable of receiving BBC broadcasts then you had to have a license?

Only if it is live BBC broadcast or if you're registered to use their iPlayer, you need a licence. Third party entities like Netflix, who have purchased BBC dramas/shows from them are allow to transmit recorded programmes to their subscribers.

There is some discussion I believe in the House, that they're considering changing the status of Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Hulu and all the rest, from provider to broadcaster. (Netflix is starting to show live wrestling, which technically is entering the sphere of broadcasting!)

If this ever goes through, then we're liable to pay the BBC a licencing fee!

The Bee Bee See will always get you in the end......but if Netflix cries its heart out to The Big Donald.......
...........I think we can make Scotland a great golf course.....all those lovely new shining hotels.

 

[Dave_]

Can you. I thought if your TV was capable of receiving BBC broadcasts then you had to have a license?

It's the act of watching/recording live broadcasts + using iPlayer to watch BBC content that is licensable.

As you can legitimately use iPlayer to watch S4C on demand content without a licence

 

[Al ears]

It's the act of watching/recording live broadcasts + using iPlayer to watch BBC content that is licensable.

As you can legitimately use iPlayer to watch S4C on demand content without a licence

So if you never watch live broadcasts but have a tv capable of doing so why do people keep getting licence reminders. Just a pointless threat??
I thought "on demand" watching of anything on iPlayer was a point made in having a license? It doesn't stipulate what when it comes to iPlayer.
On demand through anything but iPlayer seems acceptable.

 

[abacus]

NO watching anything live from any channel or streaming service.

NO using iPlayer in ay form.

Personally, I think the BBC should be reduced to 2 channels, paid for by advertising and sponsorship, with the iPlayer becoming a subscription service like Netflix etc. (Radio services should also be paid for by advertising)

Bill

 

[Dave_]

So if you never watch live broadcasts but have a tv capable of doing so why do people keep getting licence reminders. Just a pointless threat??

Well not pointless as far as the Govt and BBC are concerned, as they'd like everyone to pay regardless, hence the deliberately ambiguously worded threat-o- grammes...

I thought "on demand" watching of anything on iPlayer was a point made in having a license? It doesn't stipulate what when it comes to iPlayer.

On demand through anything but iPlayer seems acceptable.

If you visit the TVL website where it tells you what requires a licence it says
"Everything on iPlayer" however if you're observant you'll notice an asterisk with the tiniest small print at the bottom stating,

*A licence is not needed to watch S4C programmes on demand.

Because again they'd prefer everyone paid it regardless, and I suspect that time is coming as more and more people cancel...

Either all TV viewing will become Licensable including VOD from the likes of Netflix or it'll be scrapped in favour of a "media tax" and slapped on the council tax or similar

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-does-your-tv-licence-cover?utm_source=website&utm_medium=homepagelink&utm_content=covers_copylink

 

[Shrek]

Going to cancel mine !

 

[Al ears]

going to canel mine !

Canal??

 

[Shrek]

Just spent 20 mins on the phone to TV licensing what a palava do i watch this do i have this subscription do i use you tube my word, cancelled done .
The interesting thing is when i told her i had deleted the BBC App she told me i can still use i player on demand.

 

[Jasonovich]

Just spent 20 mins on the phone to TV licensing what a palava do i watch this do i have this subscription do i use you tube my word, cancelled done .
The interesting thing is when i told her i had deleted the BBC App she told me i can still use i player on demand.

Well done! High Five 🙂
Also to make it water sealed and to stop unsolicited visits from agents contracted by the BBC TV Licence; there's an official letter you can write, I'm on my work laptop so I can't show you the template but it's on the internet.

Essentially, to stop visits from TV Licensing (BBC) representatives, you can write a letter to the BBC. This letter should clearly state that you do not require a TV license and are not prepared to allow them into your home, and; most import you need to mention in the letter, that you have revoked their implied right of access, which confirms that you are not prepared to allow them into your home or to call at your door.

 

[Shrek]

When done!
Also to make it water sealed and to stop unsolicited visits from agents contracted by the BBC TV Licence; there's an official letter you can write, I'm on my work laptop so I can't show you the template but it's on the internet.

Essentially, to stop visits from TV Licensing (BBC) representatives, you can write a letter to the BBC. This letter should clearly state that you do not require a TV license and are not prepared to allow them into your home, and; most import you need to mention in the letter, that you have revoked their implied right of access, which confirms that you are not prepared to allow them into your home or to call at your door.

pls forward a link pls jason when you can .Thank you.

 

[Jasonovich]

pls forward a link pls jason when you can .Thank you.

Yeah no worries.

 

[Jasonovich]

pls forward a link pls jason when you can .Thank you.

These very lands, these marshes, bogs and swamps belong to I, Shrek, my lovely wife Fiona and Donkey and none shall pass! Oh alright Gingerbread man doesn't include you, bring some ale.

There you go, green fellow 😉
I couldn't find my exact template, the one below is a bit draconian but gets the job done.


To all that it concerns​

NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL AND NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT APPLIES

​

Notice of Removal of Implied Right of Access​

You are advised to read the following notice thoroughly and carefully. It is a lawful notice. It informs you. It means what it says. I hereby give notice that the implied right of access to the property known as <your Address> [<your Postcode>], and surrounding areas, has been removed, along with all associated property including, but not limited to, any private conveyance in respect of the following:

1) ANY employee, principal, agent, third party or representative or any other person acting on behalf of or under the instruction of XXXXXXX, or any other CORPORATE BODY (i.e. Company) howsoever named and,

2) ANY POLICE OFFICER who is acting for the CORPORATE POLICE and NOT acting as a Constable for and on behalf of His Majesty King Charles III and his people as expressed in the Oath of Office of all POLICE men and women, that is as Public Servants, upon your Oath of Office to serve "with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property"

​

COMMON LAW JURISDICTION APPLIES EXCLUSIVELY​

Please also take notice that the land known as England, Wales and Northern Ireland are Common Law jurisdictions and any transgression of this notice will be dealt with Private Prosecutions according to, and under, the Common Law.

Any and all access to the above-mentioned properties shall be by strict invitation only and shall be subject to terms and conditions, available by written request.

Article 8 of the Human Rights Act 1998, which provides "right to respect for private and family life" and specifically states that "there shall be no interference by a public authority with this right";

The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 Section 8: "Every individual has a right to be free from harassment and, accordingly, a person must not pursue a course of conduct which amounts to harassment of another" .

Please note that Harassment is both a Civil Tort and a Criminal offence for which your company and any individuals can both be sued and prosecuted. You are formally notified that any attempts at visiting my property will be considered Harassment in breach of the Protection from Harassment Act and Article 8 of the ECHR.

We do not have, and have never had, a contract. And any permission that you believe you may have from me is hereby withdrawn. If you believe that you have power of attorney to act on my behalf you are hereby fired, and any consent that you believe you may have, tacit or otherwise, is hereby withdrawn. If you feel so inclined as to enforce statutes as a consequence of this matter I will report your conduct to ALL relevant bodies and will pursue Proof of Claim in affidavit form, under your full commercial liability and under the penalty of perjury.

​

You are deemed to have been served this notice with immediate effect.​

In sincerity and honour, without ill-will, frivolity, or vexation,

<First Name: of the <Family Name> family.

Without any admission of any liability whosoever, and with all Indefeasible Rights reserved.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

 

[Shrek]

These very lands, these marshes, bogs and swamps belong to I, Shrek, my lovely wife Fiona and Donkey and none shall pass! Oh alright Gingerbread man doesn't include you, bring some ale.​

​

There you go, green fellow 😉​

I couldn't find my exact template, the one below is a bit draconian but gets the job done.​

​

​

To all that it concerns​

NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL AND NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT APPLIES

​

Notice of Removal of Implied Right of Access​

You are advised to read the following notice thoroughly and carefully. It is a lawful notice. It informs you. It means what it says. I hereby give notice that the implied right of access to the property known as <your Address> [<your Postcode>], and surrounding areas, has been removed, along with all associated property including, but not limited to, any private conveyance in respect of the following:

1) ANY employee, principal, agent, third party or representative or any other person acting on behalf of or under the instruction of XXXXXXX, or any other CORPORATE BODY (i.e. Company) howsoever named and,

2) ANY POLICE OFFICER who is acting for the CORPORATE POLICE and NOT acting as a Constable for and on behalf of His Majesty King Charles III and his people as expressed in the Oath of Office of all POLICE men and women, that is as Public Servants, upon your Oath of Office to serve "with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property"

​

COMMON LAW JURISDICTION APPLIES EXCLUSIVELY​

Please also take notice that the land known as England, Wales and Northern Ireland are Common Law jurisdictions and any transgression of this notice will be dealt with Private Prosecutions according to, and under, the Common Law.

Any and all access to the above-mentioned properties shall be by strict invitation only and shall be subject to terms and conditions, available by written request.

Article 8 of the Human Rights Act 1998, which provides "right to respect for private and family life" and specifically states that "there shall be no interference by a public authority with this right";

The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 Section 8: "Every individual has a right to be free from harassment and, accordingly, a person must not pursue a course of conduct which amounts to harassment of another" .

Please note that Harassment is both a Civil Tort and a Criminal offence for which your company and any individuals can both be sued and prosecuted. You are formally notified that any attempts at visiting my property will be considered Harassment in breach of the Protection from Harassment Act and Article 8 of the ECHR.

We do not have, and have never had, a contract. And any permission that you believe you may have from me is hereby withdrawn. If you believe that you have power of attorney to act on my behalf you are hereby fired, and any consent that you believe you may have, tacit or otherwise, is hereby withdrawn. If you feel so inclined as to enforce statutes as a consequence of this matter I will report your conduct to ALL relevant bodies and will pursue Proof of Claim in affidavit form, under your full commercial liability and under the penalty of perjury.

​

You are deemed to have been served this notice with immediate effect.​

In sincerity and honour, without ill-will, frivolity, or vexation,

<First Name: of the <Family Name> family.

Without any admission of any liability whosoever, and with all Indefeasible Rights reserved.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

thanks Jason i cant find 1 in pdf grrr

 

[Jasonovich]

thanks Jason i cant find 1 in pdf grrr

You're most welcome.
If more people cancel their TV licence, it'll probably force them to review their business model. Not sure they'll survive on subscription, who wants to pay for c**p? 🙂

 

[Dave_]

The interesting thing is when i told her i had deleted the BBC App she told me i can still use i player on demand.

You cannot use iPlayer to watch BBC content without a TV licence. Though you can legally use it to view S4C on demand content.

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one