Question Amp vote

[Al ears]

I think the discount is merely a reflection of the recent massive loss of value of the Euro vis-a-vis the Swiss Franc (no Euros in Switzerland) - which is a nice touch, as most companies (audio or other) cannot be bothered to adjust their prices, resulting in an even higher number of people ordering stuff from Germany (or going there for actual shopping in bricks-and-mortar stores, as most Swiss population centres aren't far from the German border anyway), resulting in an accelerated dry-bleeding of the Swiss high streets. So thumbs up for Denon!

And as for your question: The discounted PMA-1600 costs the equivalent of £1200; it used to cost £1700.

in that case it isn't a massive discount, at least not if you were in the UK as it's been that price for a good while.
can you audition it or the Rotel?

 

[suburbansky]

in that case it isn't a massive discount, at least not if you were in the UK as it's been that price for a good while.
can you audition it or the Rotel?

I think I could audition the Denon, and I know I can audition the Rotel, but not next to each other.

 

[Al ears]

I think I could audition the Denon, and I know I can audition the Rotel, but not next to each other.

try the Rotel first as The Denon at that price isn't a massive saving its the normal UK price.
both are excellent however.

 

[plastic penguin]

Out of the OPs initial list, only heard the Rega Elex-R. Very good amp IMHO.

 

[rainsoothe]

I think I could audition the Denon, and I know I can audition the Rotel, but not next to each other.

Audition everything you can. I would also urge you to have Naim Nait 5si on your list, and also Cyrus One HD and Musical Fidelity M2si.

 

[suburbansky]

Thanks - I see that's it's not a massive saving against the UK price, but within the price spectrum here it is indeed (ordering audio gear of that size from the UK is usually not an option).

Stupid question: The Denon is Class A/B, isn't it?

 

[rainsoothe]

Thanks - I see that's it's not a massive saving against the UK price, but within the price spectrum here it is indeed (ordering audio gear of that size from the UK is usually not an option).

Stupid question: The Denon is Class A/B, isn't it?

why would that be a stupid question? Yes it is.

 

[Al ears]

Thanks - I see that's it's not a massive saving against the UK price, but within the price spectrum here it is indeed (ordering audio gear of that size from the UK is usually not an option).

Stupid question: The Denon is Class A/B, isn't it?

Yes

 

[Al ears]

Audition everything you can. I would also urge you to have Naim Nait 5si on your list, and also Cyrus One HD and Musical Fidelity M2si.

what about his turntable??

 

[suburbansky]

why would that be a stupid question? Yes it is.

Stupid because I'm sure it says so somewhere but I couldn't find the info anywhere... 😉

 

[suburbansky]

Audition everything you can. I would also urge you to have Naim Nait 5si on your list, and also Cyrus One HD and Musical Fidelity M2si.

The only local-ish dealer Cyrus lists far and wide is literally(!) a two-minute walk down the road from my home. Too bad it permanently shuttered about 3, maybe 4 years ago and is Gym now. 🤪

 

[rainsoothe]

what about his turntable??

The Cyrus has a very decent inbuilt phono pre, and the Nait 5si is cheaper than a Rega Elex R, which means it can leave budget for a Rega MM or Schiit Mani phono pre. The Musical Fidelity is cheaper still, one could even budget for a Simaudio Moon 110lp v2 with that's left over, and still come under the budget of a Rega Elex. Im not saying this is a better way to go, just that they're all alternatives worth hearing.

 

[Al ears]

The Cyrus has a very decent inbuilt phono pre, and the Nait 5si is cheaper than a Rega Elex R, which means it can leave budget for a Rega MM or Schiit Mani phono pre. The Musical Fidelity is cheaper still, one could even budget for a Simaudio Moon 110lp v2 with that's left over, and still come under the budget of a Rega Elex. Im not saying this is a better way to go, just that they're all alternatives worth hearing.

I wasn't disagreeing just wondered which of these the OP could actually get for his budget where he is and which he could audition. Prices and availability vary greatly from country to country.

 

[rainsoothe]

I wasn't disagreeing just wondered which of these the OP could actually get for his budget where he is and which he could audition. Prices and availability vary greatly from country to country.

Ye, no, I wasn't being defensive or anything.

 

[nopiano]

Stupid because I'm sure it says so somewhere but I couldn't find the info anywhere... 😉

Probably not. Most consumers aren’t the slightest bit interested, any more than car buyers want to know how many. valves per cylinder are in the engine, or whether it has one or two turbochargers.