Amp recommendations

[plastic penguin]

I hope i have not upset you again plastic penguin?

Hows the search for a greater amp? I know you have demo in line for saturday? Is it only the yamaha you will test? Are you taking the leema with you?

What did you think about the leema on ebay i sent you?

Did you like it?

No. I've been busy.

Regards the Tucana you flagged up the only major downside is it's probably circa 2010, as it's a MKI. If I can find a MKII for a little more (for around £1500-£2000) it'll be more reassuring in terms of reliability

 

[Andrewjvt]

I hope i have not upset you again plastic penguin?

Hows the search for a greater amp? I know you have demo in line for saturday? Is it only the yamaha you will test? Are you taking the leema with you?

What did you think about the leema on ebay i sent you?

Did you like it?

No. I've been busy.

Regards the Tucana you flagged up the only major downside is it's probably circa 2010, as it's a MKI. If I can find a MKII for a little more (for around £1500-£2000) it'll be more reassuring in terms of reliability

Ok ill be on the look out for you

 

[drummerman]

To be honest, sometimes I think all this looking into upgrading the whole hifi marlaky is an ever downward spiral.

Lets face it, the Leema and speakers the OP has i probably enough for anyone.

Changing that will no doubt highlight further needs for change and so on and forth ... .

Just visiting a dealer and listen to new stuff can awaken hifi envy and what you've liked for years suddenly seems compromised. You go gome with trepedations and can't enjoy your hifi anymore.

Some are box swappers, others are not.

Anyway, enough babbling.

Should I get a Tucana? ;-)

 

[radiorog]

My choice of words may have been a tad strong ("disgusting") who knows, a better and less offensive word would have been outrageous. Not trying to create any hatred here.

Just couldn't sit by and let someone be name called like that. These days there's not much worse you can be called than a pervert. If it's a joke, it should be made blatantly obvious that it is. Which it most certainly wasn't.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I hope it goes well for you on Saturday PP

not sure what speakers they will be using with the Yamaha on Saturday but if they got them Dali opticon 6s as most dealerships have theses in stock for a demo but theses speakers will kind of give you an idea in what the Yamaha about .

i have never heard Pmc speakers with a Yamaha setup before so I am not sure if they will work well together or not but I guess you will know what's right but as I've said before the Yamaha sounds fantastic with the right speaker combination .

 

[Infiniteloop]

Can IL and Andrew please stop this nonsence. Both of you are sniping at each other like a couple of spoiled school girls.

@ Andrew: You made around half a dozen posts on this thread and you've yet to contribute in a constructive way. Either make a suggestion, based on the subject, or just don't post on this thread at all.

Thank you.

Like I said, I won't be responding. Sorry for the er, diversion. I was genuinely trying to be helpful. Clearly, some people have never had a conversation with a designer, - it's how we sometimes describe things. Apologies again.

 

[Infiniteloop]

There's a 2nd hand Devialet Le Expert 120 on Fleabay for a little over 2K.......

You'd be getting superb sound quality, beautiful aesthetics, lots of clean, neutral power, a DAC, streamer and sexy remote as part of the package.....

At least worth a look?

How can a remote control be sexy? Does the devialet come with a noisy power supply?

Ever used one? it is, at the very least, for a remote, a sensual experience. The power supply on my unit is, and always has been, completely silent.

Grossed me out. A sensual experience - thats disgusting Dont buy second hand equipment from Infiniteloop This must be a wind up Please no more discriptions of your remote fetish.

Cars are often described as sexy and driving a sensual experience, so why can that not be applied to anything else? If you'd ever used a Devialet remote you would know that the volume control has a tactile quality to it's action which exudes quality.

The only disgusting thing here is what is inside your head.

Touched a nerve hey remote perve! Ill leave you to it Call it what you want

I posted on here to help the OP with advice taken from experience and you feel the need to hijack it.

Clearly you have issues.

I wont be responding to your posts from now on.

Ever.

Get some help.

Just want to stand up for you infinite. Your original comment made me sit back in my seat also, but we all make funny comments sometimes. But calling someone a pervert for making a comment about a remote control being sexy was out of line, and I'm sure it's not something you would get away with saying to someone's face, and remain standing up. Absolutely disgusting words from Andrew.

Thanks Radiorog. I'm a designer. It's not out of the ordinary for us in the industry to call inanimate things sexy if they are well designed and are aesthetically sensual.

I find it surprising that you can be labelled a pervert simply by your choice of descriptive words.

Hope that clears things up.

 

[Andrewjvt]

100% history also
Buy it now £2295 but you could make him an offer.
Id go in £1850 cash in hand and see what he says.

Here the discription:
Great condition Leema Acoustics Tucana II integrated amplifier in Silver finish.

Purchased new from Audio Oasis and used by one careful customer.

Supplied with all original packaging, remote, user manual and power lead.

Details:

Launched in 2006, the Tucana, Leema’s first audio component, soon established itself as a genuine reference amplifier, winning many prestigious awards. Now the Tucana II extends both the performance and features of the original, to set a new global standard for integrated amplifiers.

Sharing DNA with its staggering sibling, the Leema Reference Series Altair IV, the Tucana II is an even more accomplished performer than its multi-award winning predecessor.

Improved dynamic drive, resolution of fine detail and remarkable clarity, help the Tucana II present music with life-like swing and verve, comfortably driving even the most fussy of today’s audiophile speakers.

The technically ground breaking dual-mono design uses three heavy-duty toroidal power transformers, one for each channel and one for the control circuitry. This, coupled with a robust and highly refined multi-bipolar output stage, ensures that music is delivered with a vice-like grip and precise loudspeaker control.

Tucana II features an MP3 front-panel input, fixed gain input for AV connection, balanced XLR inputs as standard and a dedicated headphone output.

The user interface offers balance control and individually adjustable input gains, both of which were originally developed for the Reference Series Pyxis pre-amplifier.

Tucana II can also operate as a LIPS® system master or slave and is able to talk to other Leema components. This enables the Tucana II to automatically configure other devices in a multi-unit home cinema system of uncompromised audiophile quality.

 

[tonky]

to school on Monday?

Maybe things will calm down a bit here.

tonky

 

[Andrewjvt]

Can IL and Andrew please stop this nonsence. Both of you are sniping at each other like a couple of spoiled school girls.

@ Andrew: You made around half a dozen posts on this thread and you've yet to contribute in a constructive way. Either make a suggestion, based on the subject, or just don't post on this thread at all.

Thank you.

Like I said, I won't be responding. Sorry for the er, diversion. I was genuinely trying to be helpful. Clearly, some people have never had a conversation with a designer, - it's how we sometimes describe things. Apologies again.

You said you had a sensual experience with the remote and i found it creepy in mean funny
Just get over it now.

 

[tonky]

......to school on monday - playtime over.

tonky

 

[Romulus]

There's a 2nd hand Devialet Le Expert 120 on Fleabay for a little over 2K.......

You'd be getting superb sound quality, beautiful aesthetics, lots of clean, neutral power, a DAC, streamer and sexy remote as part of the package.....

At least worth a look?

How can a remote control be sexy? Does the devialet come with a noisy power supply?

Ever used one? it is, at the very least, for a remote, a sensual experience. The power supply on my unit is, and always has been, completely silent.

Grossed me out. A sensual experience - thats disgusting Dont buy second hand equipment from Infiniteloop This must be a wind up Please no more discriptions of your remote fetish.

Cars are often described as sexy and driving a sensual experience, so why can that not be applied to anything else? If you'd ever used a Devialet remote you would know that the volume control has a tactile quality to it's action which exudes quality.

The only disgusting thing here is what is inside your head.

Touched a nerve hey remote perve! Ill leave you to it Call it what you want

I posted on here to help the OP with advice taken from experience and you feel the need to hijack it.

Clearly you have issues.

I wont be responding to your posts from now on.

Ever.

Get some help.

Just want to stand up for you infinite. Your original comment made me sit back in my seat also, but we all make funny comments sometimes. But calling someone a pervert for making a comment about a remote control being sexy was out of line, and I'm sure it's not something you would get away with saying to someone's face, and remain standing up. Absolutely disgusting words from Andrew.

Thanks Radiorog. I'm a designer. It's not out of the ordinary for us in the industry to call inanimate things sexy if they are well designed and are aesthetically sensual.

I find it surprising that you can be labelled a pervert simply by your choice of descriptive words.

Hope that clears things up.

Aren't you taking yourself a little too seriously? I think one of the great gifts of the 'English' character is the ability to laugh at one self.

 

[CnoEvil]

I think one of the great gifts of the 'English' character is the ability to laugh at one self.

Mrs. Cno does enough of that for the both of us! *unknw*

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

Hi Pp . I'm kinda in the same boat as yourself as in it'll take a serious amount of wedge to improve upon what I already have,I'd be looking at something like supernait 2,pmc twenty5 21's-22's etc.And as I don't play my music loud all that often.....would it be worth the money??would I gain anything in subtleties,detail retrieval etc or will it all get a bit too anylitacal and in the end sound a bit sh#%y cos some of the music I like to listen to....well... isn't the be all and end all re the production and sound engineering used on some of my albums.I really love the sound of my system just now and any changes would be for changes sake and also the "what if"factor but it can be all too easy to screw it up and end up with something that just isn't doing it for you like the last system did......just some food for thought.

Ps.I think if I was you I'd look at the source for a wee spring clear out and go look for a s/h arcam cd82 /92 for not a lot of money...they are a fine improvement on the cd73 and could be the missing link that your after.

 

[Macspur]

I think it was DM mentioned the Perreaux... I home demoed the 250 and found it to be a superb piece of kit and not to mention sexy lol! only reason I didn't go for it that it wasn't that user friendly for me.

Really PP you need to be looking for a good priced ex dem or sh, a 4K amp for 2.5 will make a real difference.

Glad the bitching has stopped too, but I will say, I took it as being a tongue in cheek comment from the beginning.

Mac

www.realmusicnet.wordpress.com

 

[Infiniteloop]

There's a 2nd hand Devialet Le Expert 120 on Fleabay for a little over 2K.......

You'd be getting superb sound quality, beautiful aesthetics, lots of clean, neutral power, a DAC, streamer and sexy remote as part of the package.....

At least worth a look?

How can a remote control be sexy? Does the devialet come with a noisy power supply?

Ever used one? it is, at the very least, for a remote, a sensual experience. The power supply on my unit is, and always has been, completely silent.

Grossed me out. A sensual experience - thats disgusting Dont buy second hand equipment from Infiniteloop This must be a wind up Please no more discriptions of your remote fetish.

Cars are often described as sexy and driving a sensual experience, so why can that not be applied to anything else? If you'd ever used a Devialet remote you would know that the volume control has a tactile quality to it's action which exudes quality.

The only disgusting thing here is what is inside your head.

Touched a nerve hey remote perve! Ill leave you to it Call it what you want

I posted on here to help the OP with advice taken from experience and you feel the need to hijack it.

Clearly you have issues.

I wont be responding to your posts from now on.

Ever.

Get some help.

Just want to stand up for you infinite. Your original comment made me sit back in my seat also, but we all make funny comments sometimes. But calling someone a pervert for making a comment about a remote control being sexy was out of line, and I'm sure it's not something you would get away with saying to someone's face, and remain standing up. Absolutely disgusting words from Andrew.

Thanks Radiorog. I'm a designer. It's not out of the ordinary for us in the industry to call inanimate things sexy if they are well designed and are aesthetically sensual.

I find it surprising that you can be labelled a pervert simply by your choice of descriptive words.

Hope that clears things up.

Aren't you taking yourself a little too seriously? I think one of the great gifts of the 'English' character is the ability to laugh at one self.

If someone you'd never met called you a pervert for trying to be helpful to a fellow HiFi enthusiast, how funny would you find it?

 

[Vladimir]

There's a 2nd hand Devialet Le Expert 120 on Fleabay for a little over 2K.......

You'd be getting superb sound quality, beautiful aesthetics, lots of clean, neutral power, a DAC, streamer and sexy remote as part of the package.....

At least worth a look?

How can a remote control be sexy? Does the devialet come with a noisy power supply?

Ever used one? it is, at the very least, for a remote, a sensual experience. The power supply on my unit is, and always has been, completely silent.

Grossed me out. A sensual experience - thats disgusting Dont buy second hand equipment from Infiniteloop This must be a wind up Please no more discriptions of your remote fetish.

Cars are often described as sexy and driving a sensual experience, so why can that not be applied to anything else? If you'd ever used a Devialet remote you would know that the volume control has a tactile quality to it's action which exudes quality.

The only disgusting thing here is what is inside your head. 

Touched a nerve hey remote perve! Ill leave you to it Call it what you want

I posted on here to help the OP with advice taken from experience and you feel the need to hijack it. 

Clearly you have issues. 

I wont be responding to your posts from now on. 

Ever. 

Get some help. 

Just want to stand up for you infinite. Your original comment made me sit back in my seat also, but we all make funny comments sometimes. But calling someone a pervert for making a comment about a remote control being sexy was out of line, and I'm sure it's not something you would get away with saying to someone's face, and remain standing up. Absolutely disgusting words from Andrew.

Thanks Radiorog. I'm a designer. It's not out of the ordinary for us in the industry to call inanimate things sexy if they are well designed and are aesthetically sensual.

I find it surprising that you can be labelled a pervert simply by your choice of descriptive words.

Hope that clears things up.

Aren't you taking yourself a little too seriously?  I think one of the great gifts of the 'English' character is the ability to laugh at one self.

If someone you'd never met called you a pervert for trying to be helpful to a fellow HiFi enthusiast, how funny would you find it?

Such whiny crybaby you are now. Quit it.

Lets talk amps.

 

[chebby]

With up to £2000 to spend i'd get something competent from Yamaha for about £500 (or less) like the R-N602 (or Onkyo equivalent) and spend the rest on things like a nice new, wool rug, another book cabinet, a long weekend break with my wife, decorating a room, buying a new 40" TV etc.

I don't think many of my future hi-fi purchases are going to be brand-new any more. (Except possibly the Yamaha/Onkyo mentioned unless a mint condition Yamaha R-N500 comes up one day.)

If i were PP i'd take an A-S1100 or discounted A-S2100 with their meters and wooden 'cheeks'

 

[Blacksabbath25]

With up to £2000 to spend i'd get something competent from Yamaha for about £500 (or less) like the R-N602 (or Onkyo equivalent) and spend the rest on things like a nice new, wool rug, another book cabinet, a long weekend break with my wife, decorating a room, buying a new 40" TV etc.

I don't think many of my future hi-fi purchases are going to be brand-new any more. (Except possibly the Yamaha/Onkyo mentioned unless a mint condition Yamaha R-N500 comes up one day.)

If i were PP i'd take an A-S1100 or discounted A-S2100 with their meters and wooden 'cheeks'

that is what mine was a open box A-S2100 i saved loads and it was repacked by yamaha as well as i got mine from a yamaha dealer as they go back to yamaha to make sure there are no issues with the amp you still get warrenty 3 years i think it is . but save loads of the R.R.P the only thing i had to pay the full price on was the matching cdplayer as there were no open box deals at the time .

 

[tonky]

There's a 2nd hand Devialet Le Expert 120 on Fleabay for a little over 2K.......

You'd be getting superb sound quality, beautiful aesthetics, lots of clean, neutral power, a DAC, streamer and sexy remote as part of the package.....

At least worth a look?

How can a remote control be sexy? Does the devialet come with a noisy power supply?

Ever used one? it is, at the very least, for a remote, a sensual experience. The power supply on my unit is, and always has been, completely silent.

Grossed me out. A sensual experience - thats disgusting Dont buy second hand equipment from Infiniteloop This must be a wind up Please no more discriptions of your remote fetish.

Cars are often described as sexy and driving a sensual experience, so why can that not be applied to anything else? If you'd ever used a Devialet remote you would know that the volume control has a tactile quality to it's action which exudes quality.

The only disgusting thing here is what is inside your head.

Touched a nerve hey remote perve! Ill leave you to it Call it what you want

I posted on here to help the OP with advice taken from experience and you feel the need to hijack it.

Clearly you have issues.

I wont be responding to your posts from now on.

Ever.

Get some help.

Just want to stand up for you infinite. Your original comment made me sit back in my seat also, but we all make funny comments sometimes. But calling someone a pervert for making a comment about a remote control being sexy was out of line, and I'm sure it's not something you would get away with saying to someone's face, and remain standing up. Absolutely disgusting words from Andrew.

Thanks Radiorog. I'm a designer. It's not out of the ordinary for us in the industry to call inanimate things sexy if they are well designed and are aesthetically sensual.

I find it surprising that you can be labelled a pervert simply by your choice of descriptive words.

Hope that clears things up.

Aren't you taking yourself a little too seriously? I think one of the great gifts of the 'English' character is the ability to laugh at one self.

If someone you'd never met called you a pervert for trying to be helpful to a fellow HiFi enthusiast, how funny would you find it?

Such whiny crybaby you are now. Quit it.

Lets talk amps.

No need - what's it got to do with you?

It's a needless addition to some of the childish comments already posted. It's spoils a very interesting thread.

 

[plastic penguin]

There's a 2nd hand Devialet Le Expert 120 on Fleabay for a little over 2K.......

You'd be getting superb sound quality, beautiful aesthetics, lots of clean, neutral power, a DAC, streamer and sexy remote as part of the package.....

At least worth a look?

How can a remote control be sexy? Does the devialet come with a noisy power supply?

Ever used one? it is, at the very least, for a remote, a sensual experience. The power supply on my unit is, and always has been, completely silent.

Grossed me out. A sensual experience - thats disgusting Dont buy second hand equipment from Infiniteloop This must be a wind up Please no more discriptions of your remote fetish.

Cars are often described as sexy and driving a sensual experience, so why can that not be applied to anything else? If you'd ever used a Devialet remote you would know that the volume control has a tactile quality to it's action which exudes quality.

The only disgusting thing here is what is inside your head.

Touched a nerve hey remote perve! Ill leave you to it Call it what you want

I posted on here to help the OP with advice taken from experience and you feel the need to hijack it.

Clearly you have issues.

I wont be responding to your posts from now on.

Ever.

Get some help.

Just want to stand up for you infinite. Your original comment made me sit back in my seat also, but we all make funny comments sometimes. But calling someone a pervert for making a comment about a remote control being sexy was out of line, and I'm sure it's not something you would get away with saying to someone's face, and remain standing up. Absolutely disgusting words from Andrew.

Thanks Radiorog. I'm a designer. It's not out of the ordinary for us in the industry to call inanimate things sexy if they are well designed and are aesthetically sensual.

I find it surprising that you can be labelled a pervert simply by your choice of descriptive words.

Hope that clears things up.

Aren't you taking yourself a little too seriously? I think one of the great gifts of the 'English' character is the ability to laugh at one self.

If someone you'd never met called you a pervert for trying to be helpful to a fellow HiFi enthusiast, how funny would you find it?

Such whiny crybaby you are now. Quit it.

Lets talk amps.

No need - what's it got to do with you?

It's a needless addition to some of the childish comments already posted. It's spoils a very interesting thread.

Concur. Totally unnecessary.

It doesn't inspire me to come back and comment on the progress of the amp.

 

[plastic penguin]

With up to £2000 to spend i'd get something competent from Yamaha for about £500 (or less) like the R-N602 (or Onkyo equivalent) and spend the rest on things like a nice new, wool rug, another book cabinet, a long weekend break with my wife, decorating a room, buying a new 40" TV etc.

I don't think many of my future hi-fi purchases are going to be brand-new any more. (Except possibly the Yamaha/Onkyo mentioned unless a mint condition Yamaha R-N500 comes up one day.)

If i were PP i'd take an A-S1100 or discounted A-S2100 with their meters and wooden 'cheeks'

I'm not looking to buy an amp for sake of buying. Even though I love the retro looks of the Yams, if the sound doesn't stack up to make it worthwhile I'll pass and move on to the next dem.

When I first joined this forum and asked about a replacement for my A65+ it took nearly two years to setlle for the Leema (I dem'd most SS amps of that period below the grand mark).

This time it'll be different -- and a lot quicker, but I need to be sure it's the sound I can really live with. Both my Arcams and Leema are great to live with so any amp will need to exhibit that trait (and be a hoot as well)..

 

[Andrewjvt]

With up to £2000 to spend i'd get something competent from Yamaha for about £500 (or less) like the R-N602 (or Onkyo equivalent) and spend the rest on things like a nice new, wool rug, another book cabinet, a long weekend break with my wife, decorating a room, buying  a new 40" TV etc.

I don't think many of my future hi-fi purchases are going to be brand-new any more. (Except possibly the Yamaha/Onkyo mentioned unless a mint condition Yamaha R-N500 comes up one day.)

If i were PP i'd take an A-S1100 or discounted A-S2100 with their meters and wooden 'cheeks'

I'm not looking to buy an amp for sake of buying. Even though I love the retro looks of the Yams, if the sound doesn't stack up to make it worthwhile I'll pass and move on to the next dem.

When I first joined this forum and asked about a replacement for my A65+ it took nearly two years to setlle for the Leema (I dem'd most SS amps of that period below the grand mark).

This time it'll be different -- and a lot quicker, but I need to be sure it's the sound I can really live with. Both my Arcams and Leema are great to live with so any amp will need to exhibit that trait (and be a hoot as well)..

What about the tucana 2 i sent you?

 

[plastic penguin]

Thanks. Haven't ignored it or ruled it out. Just that I've had this dem set up for past couple of days and I suppose I need to find my demo boots again.

I've heard loads of different amps in shops but it has been years since I've directly compared any amp with my unmentionable.

If the Tucana 2 has gone by the time I've heard these others I'm sure they'll be other MKIIs around at some point.

 

[jonathanRD]

I agree with those that say it might be a stretch to find a new amp circa £2k that is worth the upgrade over the pulse. And you seem to share that view - you may find an amp that is slightly better, but would it be worth spending £2k for that 'slightly better' sound?

So I'm curious how you intend to compare any amp to your pulse? are you intent to ultimately get a home demo or would you take a chance from a shop demo (although you could take your pulse with you). With little opportunity to demo a Tuscana, unless your local dealer has them, would you be comfortable to fork out £2k plus on an amp that you have not had a chance to demo at home in your room?

This all may come down to what you have available to demo easily, rather than some wide search of all the possible options. So I'm really intersted to see how you get on.