Waiting for mine to arrive AE,decided to buy it after seeing reviews + reading the thread with you and Max,TV arriving tomorrow from Amazon,was wondering could you give your run in settings and your post run in settings,Ill be like a child with a new toy and the wife and my eldest daughter are away until saturday so i should get time to futter about with it,thanks
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FWIW, here're my current settings (which probably break all the rules
):
Expert 1
Aspect: Just Scan (best for detail)
Energy: Off
Contrast: 88
Brightness: 57
H Sharp': 35
V Sharp': 35
Colour: 56
Tint: 0
Dynamic contrast: Low
Gamma: Med'
Black level: Low
Colour Gamut: Standard
Edge enhancer: Off
Colour Temp': Warm
All other settings: 0
With the above, IMO skin tones are natural while other colours are punchy; blacks are deep(ish); shadows/contrast appropriately dramatic; there's a decent sense of depth/3D; motion is impressive
Arguably, the above settings are not best for shadow detail but the trade-off is that skin tones lose the PK350's inherent yellow/ochre hue. (Initially, Olga Kurylenko looked alarmingly jaundiced in Quantum of Solace
)
Ooo, and if you alter the Black Level from 'low' it has an 'orrible, and permanent/irreversible, knock-on effect on other settings, so you have to 'reset to default' and start again
Expert 1
Aspect: Just Scan (best for detail)
Energy: Off
Contrast: 88
Brightness: 57
H Sharp': 35
V Sharp': 35
Colour: 56
Tint: 0
Dynamic contrast: Low
Gamma: Med'
Black level: Low
Colour Gamut: Standard
Edge enhancer: Off
Colour Temp': Warm
All other settings: 0
With the above, IMO skin tones are natural while other colours are punchy; blacks are deep(ish); shadows/contrast appropriately dramatic; there's a decent sense of depth/3D; motion is impressive
Arguably, the above settings are not best for shadow detail but the trade-off is that skin tones lose the PK350's inherent yellow/ochre hue. (Initially, Olga Kurylenko looked alarmingly jaundiced in Quantum of Solace
Ooo, and if you alter the Black Level from 'low' it has an 'orrible, and permanent/irreversible, knock-on effect on other settings, so you have to 'reset to default' and start again
I just traded my 50pk250 with a 50pk350, caus of a fault, and i'm a but underwhelmed. The picture on the pk250 was really sharp and punchy at a low contrast, but the pk350's seems to lack the punch even at a high contrast.
When i run the picture wizzard on the pk350, the brightness will need to be set at 47. But when i have to set the contrast i cant get a good result, even at a contrast level of 100! The 3 squares are still visibile. Does anyone have that too with the 50pk350?
When i run the picture wizzard on the pk350, the brightness will need to be set at 47. But when i have to set the contrast i cant get a good result, even at a contrast level of 100! The 3 squares are still visibile. Does anyone have that too with the 50pk350?
AEJim
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steven123:
I just traded my 50pk250 with a 50pk350, caus of a fault, and i'm a but underwhelmed. The picture on the pk250 was really sharp and punchy at a low contrast, but the pk350's seems to lack the punch even at a high contrast.
When i run the picture wizzard on the pk350, the brightness will need to be set at 47. But when i have to set the contrast i cant get a good result, even at a contrast level of 100! The 3 squares are still visibile. Does anyone have that too with the 50pk350?
Yes, it's common of many modern plasma's that they will show those patterns without going to the "correct" image result - set the contrast around 80-85 max for best results, brightness to about 52. Leave it on "Expert" 1 or 2 and try medium colour balance rather than warm if you want more "pop" to the picture, I would tone contrast down to at least 75 on that setting though. That should be a decent starting point, make sure any power saving etc is turned off as well. It will improve a little over time too...
I just traded my 50pk250 with a 50pk350, caus of a fault, and i'm a but underwhelmed. The picture on the pk250 was really sharp and punchy at a low contrast, but the pk350's seems to lack the punch even at a high contrast.
When i run the picture wizzard on the pk350, the brightness will need to be set at 47. But when i have to set the contrast i cant get a good result, even at a contrast level of 100! The 3 squares are still visibile. Does anyone have that too with the 50pk350?
Yes, it's common of many modern plasma's that they will show those patterns without going to the "correct" image result - set the contrast around 80-85 max for best results, brightness to about 52. Leave it on "Expert" 1 or 2 and try medium colour balance rather than warm if you want more "pop" to the picture, I would tone contrast down to at least 75 on that setting though. That should be a decent starting point, make sure any power saving etc is turned off as well. It will improve a little over time too...
AEJim
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Hentoes:Waiting for mine to arrive AE,decided to buy it after seeing reviews + reading the thread with you and Max,TV arriving tomorrow from Amazon,was wondering could you give your run in settings and your post run in settings,Ill be like a child with a new toy and the wife and my eldest daughter are away until saturday so i should get time to futter about with it,thanks
I wouldn't worry about any run-in settings, mine never suffered from not using them (providing the usual caveats of not watching content with static images for very long periods!). As I said in the previous post for settings really, I personally have my contrast lower at 70 but I usually have the room very dark by the time I settle down to watch TV!
Sorry for not responding earlier, had a very busy couple of weeks working on mini speakers, giant speakers, soundbar speaker... Things are all coming together at once!
I wouldn't worry about any run-in settings, mine never suffered from not using them (providing the usual caveats of not watching content with static images for very long periods!). As I said in the previous post for settings really, I personally have my contrast lower at 70 but I usually have the room very dark by the time I settle down to watch TV!
Sorry for not responding earlier, had a very busy couple of weeks working on mini speakers, giant speakers, soundbar speaker... Things are all coming together at once!
Thank you for your answer!
The main problem was that it takes 10-20 seconds before the black level becomes normal after turning the tv on. Someone said this is because the software turns the black level down or something when a pure black image is shown for a couple of seconds. And i tried to change the black level then in the expert settings, but there is a bug with the pk350 that changing the black level from high to low again it is a different black level then the standard. So when i did a picture reset, waited for 20 seconds and put the britghtness to 54 on expert 1 everything looks good
And your right about the picture improves over time. My pk250 looked good on the first day, but looked perfect after 2 months of use: the coulors, contrast and detail al seemed to improve
The main problem was that it takes 10-20 seconds before the black level becomes normal after turning the tv on. Someone said this is because the software turns the black level down or something when a pure black image is shown for a couple of seconds. And i tried to change the black level then in the expert settings, but there is a bug with the pk350 that changing the black level from high to low again it is a different black level then the standard. So when i did a picture reset, waited for 20 seconds and put the britghtness to 54 on expert 1 everything looks good
And your right about the picture improves over time. My pk250 looked good on the first day, but looked perfect after 2 months of use: the coulors, contrast and detail al seemed to improve
Thanks for your time AE,I used your settings from a previous post + they were brilliant,stunning picture!Thanks again+ if you are ever in Ireland i will buy you a pint!!
Ok, i have wachted the pk350 now for a couple of days. At startup, it takes a couple of minutes before the brightness kicks in. It is at first grey, but other owners say this is because of the cold. My room is very cold too, so that should be the cause.
But especially when i watch soccer, i notice a lot of brightness fluctuations. One moment the grass is dark the other moment it is bright en the image looks more sharp too then. Does anyone think this is the normal functioning of the ABL, automatic britghtness limitation, or is this a fault?
But especially when i watch soccer, i notice a lot of brightness fluctuations. One moment the grass is dark the other moment it is bright en the image looks more sharp too then. Does anyone think this is the normal functioning of the ABL, automatic britghtness limitation, or is this a fault?
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