3M RCA cable

[camcroft]

I am looking for a 3m RCA cable that I want to run from my turntable to my powered speakers. I am using a 1m RCA but when we sit with our back to the speakers they are not giving out the right signal. the powered speaker which should be the left speaker is the right so I want to turn them around but then the left speaker will be around 2 to 3m away. I don't want to spend a fortune on so called audiophile cable. Could anyone please suggest a decent quality cable that they have possibly used themselves. Thanks in advance.

 

[Fandango Andy]

I am looking for a 3m RCA cable that I want to run from my turntable to my powered speakers. I am using a 1m RCA but when we sit with our back to the speakers they are out of phase as the powered speaker which should be the left speaker is the right so I want to turn them around but then the left speaker will be around 2 to 3m away. I don't want to spend a fortune on so called audiophile cable. Could anyone please suggest a decent quality cable that they have possibly used themselves. Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure that's how hearing works!

If you do need an affordable longer cable, Amazon Basics.

 

[camcroft]

I'm not sure that's how hearing works!

If you do need an affordable longer cable, Amazon Basics.

When I stand up facing the speakers the sound is quite different as I have always been led to believe the left speaker is the main speaker for sound.

 

[camcroft]

Someone on another forum suggested changing the cartridge leads around. Any thoughts. Not forgetting that the turntable is feeding powered speakers.

 

[Vincent Kars]

is feeding powered speakers

A powered speaker today is often a master (the one with the build-in stereo amp) and a slave, a passive one connected with speaker cable to the master. If the documentation says the master should be te left one, so you do to get the R and L signal right.
If you reverse the speakers (or sit with your back to them) you can get R & L right by swapping the inputs on the master.

 

[camcroft]

A powered speaker today is often a master (the one with the build-in stereo amp) and a slave, a passive one connected with speaker cable to the master. If the documentation says the master should be te left one, so you do to get the R and L signal right.
If you reverse the speakers (or sit with your back to them) you can get R & L right by swapping the inputs on the master.

Thank you Vincent. I have changed the connections at the speaker end but not at the back of the turntable is that correct.

 

[ToppingSMSL]

Get one made from Belden 1694a coaxial cable

 

[camcroft]

Get one made from Belden 1694a coaxial cable

Thanks . I followed the excellent above advice and changed the RCA connectors at the powered speaker end and hopefully that will fix my problem.

 

[Vincent Kars]

is that correct.

Of course. The only thing that matters is that you swap the inputs. Where doesn't matter.

 

[Gray]

....when we sit with our back to the speakers they are not giving out the right signal.

What about the times when you face the speakers (like normal people do 😆) - or don't you?
Would you want them permanently suiting your backwards listening?

 

[Minkey1]

What about the times when you face the speakers (like normal people do 😆) - or don't you?
Would you want them permanently suiting your backwards listening?

I thought that was curious. I wouldn’t go to a gig and sit with my back to the band, or orchestra. Or visit a cinema and face the projector?

 

[Gray]

Or visit a cinema and face the projector?

😆

 

[Fandango Andy]

When I stand up facing the speakers the sound is quite different as I have always been led to believe the left speaker is the main speaker for sound.

There are a few different things going on here so lets break it down to make sure I haven't misunderstood you.

Vincent is spot on, some powered speaker have the build-in stereo amp in one speaker and the other is passive, and connected by a wire. This doesn't make one a "main speaker for sound", they both should give out as much sound.

Vincent is also correct if you swap your RCA inputs you will make your left speaker the right and so on.

However, is that really what you really want to do? In the original post you said:

but when we sit with our back to the speakers they are not giving out the right signal. the powered speaker which should be the left speaker is the right so I want to turn them around

Are you suggesting that they sound OK when you face them, but not so good when you face away?

That is normal, our ears are shaped forward, and we normally face our loudspeakers so you have trained your brain to perceive a soundstage that way. Some people who listen to a lot of music on a system with a good sound stage experience a phenomenon when listening to headphones, that the music is coming from behind them.

Making left right, and right left isn't going to fix the issue, and it will make it even worse when you turn around. If you mainly listen to music with your back to the speakers, try playing with the positioning of the speakers. If you have the toe in, maybe reduce that a little, if they are not to in, try and introduce a little of that maybe with a crossover point in front of you when your back is to the system.

 

[camcroft]

What about the times when you face the speakers (like normal people do 😆) - or don't you?
Would you want them permanently suiting your backwards listening?

Yes because of the room layout which is a conservatory can only be used with them behind me no other choice given the shape of the conservatory. My backwards listening has nothin to do with the soundstage.

 

[DiggyGun]

Yes because of the room layout which is a conservatory can only be used with them behind me no other choice given the shape of the conservatory. My backwards listening has nothin to do with the soundstage.

A photo would really help us to understand your listening position.

 

[Fandango Andy]

Yes because of the room layout which is a conservatory can only be used with them behind me no other choice given the shape of the conservatory. My backwards listening has nothin to do with the soundstage.

Music sounds bad in a conservatory, how did that happen? 🤣🤣🤣

 

[camcroft]

A photo would really help us to understand your listening position.

Thanks for your reply. I have been in touch with the guy who has made all of my cables and he is going to make me one meaning that I can now place the speakers as they are meant to be by using that cable. Here are three pictures anyway. This is not my main system .

 

[camcroft]

Music sounds bad in a conservatory, how did that happen? 🤣🤣🤣

Mine sounds quite good actually.

 

[DiggyGun]

Thanks for your reply. I have been in touch with the guy who has made all of my cables and he is going to make me one meaning that I can now place the speakers as they are meant to be by using that cable. Here are two pictures anyway. This is not my main system .

Thanks for the photos. Why can’t you put the sofa or speakers on the opposite wall so that you’re facing the speakers.

 

[camcroft]

Thanks for the photos. Why can’t you put the sofa or speakers on the opposite wall so that you’re facing the speakers.

Because there are french doors there and just along from them there is another door. Just beyond the turntable there are bifold doors all along that wall. The sound in there shouldn't be good but it is certainly not bad.

 

[DiggyGun]

Because there are french doors there and just along from them there is another door. Just beyond the turntable there are bifold doors all along that wall. The sound in there shouldn't be good but it is certainly not bad.

Thanks for clarifying, easier to understand what your issues are now.

 

[camcroft]

I have managed to

Thanks for clarifying, easier to understand what your issues are now.

I have been in touch with the guy who has made all of my cables and he is going to make me one which will be Vanne Damme Pro for £12.50 delivered which I think is reasonable and I know what his quality is like. I can then move the powered speaker away from the turntable and it will be my left speaker when I am sitting down. Thanks for your replies.

 

[Fandango Andy]

I have managed to

I have been in touch with the guy who has made all of my cables and he is going to make me one which will be Vanne Damme Pro for £12.50 delivered which I think is reasonable and I know what his quality is like. I can then move the powered speaker away from the turntable and it will be my left speaker when I am sitting down. Thanks for your replies.

This still isn't making sense to me.

If it is just a matter of swapping the speakers around, switch the rca input as previously suggested.

However, your problem doesn't appear to be what you think it is. Your solution may make it worse. Stereo is not intended to be listened to with speakers either side of you like that.

If you can't swap the room around to make it work, you could try moving both speakers to the same side of the sofa and putting them side by side. This would effectively be mono, but could sound better.

 

[camcroft]

Thanks for your input. I am going for the new cable and if it makes me happy then my goal is achieved .

 

[Gray]

....he is going to make me one which will be Vanne Damme Pro for £12.50 delivered which I think is reasonable

It is reasonable.
RCA is not the hardest he will ever have made, but even so, what with the cost of parts and postage, he's certainly not greedy with his price 👍