Why do I do this to myself?

[plastic penguin]

Two weeks ago the PC had to be repaired because of viruses. Roughly every few days something goes wrong with the thing (loss of internet connection, lagging... so disruptive.

I don't know what to say. 18 years of computers in our home and we've never had a problem. (Ok one failing HD about 6 years ago that Apple promptly replaced and fitted free within the week and I restored from it's backup within an hour.)

Eight and a half years with Virgin Media (cable) internet and only one outage that ever caused me to have to go to the office to work.

No viruses, ever, on any machine, Apple or Windows.

What on Earth are you doing?

Nothing is the simple answer.

They've had issues, us and a few other neighbours, since they started demolition. They severed through our broadband, and although the new housing is complete we still have problems with our broadband/IC.

Again, it has gone really slow. It's taken me 10 minutes just to loggin and post this.

We have engineers constantly looking for the gremlins, despite new cables layed a few weeks ago. Can't see it being fixed anytime soon.

 

[Infiniteloop]

For PP the 'dark side' is either valves or digital. (Or, ultimately, a valve DAC!)

Wrong. The dark side for me is streamers or any mechanism that downloads stuff. Far too unreliable.

Two weeks ago the PC had to be repaired because of viruses. Roughly every few days something goes wrong with the thing (loss of internet connection, lagging... so disruptive.

Get a Mac.

 

[Deleted member 108165]

Get a Mac.

Yeah, join the Borg *crazy*. Nowt wrong with Microsoft *good*

 

[Jota180]

For the new leema iv

Nope. The Welsh wonders have gone all digital on me. Not good as all my gear is analogue.

All Pulse amps have digital volume control IIRC.

Plus when the sound gets passed from his ears to his brain for processing it's turned from analogue to digital.

 

[Jota180]

Two weeks ago the PC had to be repaired because of viruses. Roughly every few days something goes wrong with the thing (loss of internet connection, lagging... so disruptive.

I don't know what to say. 18 years of computers in our home and we've never had a problem. (Ok one failing HD about 6 years ago that Apple promptly replaced and fitted free within the week and I restored from it's backup within an hour.)

Eight and a half years with Virgin Media (cable) internet and only one outage that ever caused me to have to go to the office to work.

No viruses, ever, on any machine, Apple or Windows.

What on Earth are you doing?

Porn! *biggrin*

 

[Jota180]

For PP the 'dark side' is either valves or digital. (Or, ultimately, a valve DAC!)

Wrong. The dark side for me is streamers or any mechanism that downloads stuff. Far too unreliable.

Two weeks ago the PC had to be repaired because of viruses. Roughly every few days something goes wrong with the thing (loss of internet connection, lagging... so disruptive.

User error. Also a home network doesn't require the internet to be present 24/7.

 

[stevebrock]

Why?

 

[Vladimir]

Why what, Steve? *biggrin* Have you watched any? Audition some, you may like it.

 

[Infiniteloop]

Get a Mac.

Yeah, join the Borg *crazy*. Nowt wrong with Microsoft *good*

There was a time when Microsoft were considered the Borg.

 

[Vladimir]

When Microsoft made minor segments of its OS with proprietary software, it got labeled as evil and went to monopoly court because of its size.

Apple is ALL proprietary and in 2015 is worth as much as Microsoft and Google combined (over $700 Billion). No monopoly court, no hate. Obviously people want to be borgs.

 

[Infiniteloop]

When Microsoft made minor segments of its OS with proprietary software, it got labeled as evil and went to monopoly court because of its size.

Apple is ALL proprietary and in 2015 is worth as much as Microsoft and Google combined (over $700 Billion). No monopoly court, no hate. Obviously people want to be borgs.

Yet Apple have no monopoly on anything.

Microsoft were convicted of Monopoly Abuse, not because of their size.

Android controls over 80% of mobile devices and you think Apple users are the Borg?

 

[Deleted member 108165]

Yet Apple have no monopoly on anything.

All I know is when I downloaded iTunes many years ago it totally monopolised all the music on my PC, I uninstalled it very quickly and it buggered off with my entire ripped music collection *diablo*. I know I'm missing out on a lot of tech with no "i" devices in my house but I tend to look upon Apple with the same contempt as Sky. I quite like what the Bill Gates Foundation does, (even though it may well be a tax dodge), so I support Microsoft. Just my personal opinion.

 

[Vladimir]

Yet Apple have no monopoly on anything.

Microsoft were convicted of Monopoly Abuse, not because of their size.

Android controls over 80% of mobile devices and you think Apple users are the Borg?

Monopoly is defined by size (market share). Being the biggest fish in the pond means you can control the market, bully, buy, sell, shut down etc. thus state legislation is needed.

In law, a Google, Apple all are dominant in some market segment. They are all monopolies and by size (and size matters) Apple is as big as Google and Microsoft combined.

As for being Borg like, Microsoft users are far more heterogenous and individualist at what hardware and software they use. Apple is uniform, limitating, claustrophobic and proprietary Borg land.

 

[Infiniteloop]

Yet Apple have no monopoly on anything.

Microsoft were convicted of Monopoly Abuse, not because of their size.

Android controls over 80% of mobile devices and you think Apple users are the Borg?

Monopoly is defined by size (market share). Being the biggest fish in the pond means you can control the market, bully, buy, sell, shut down etc. thus state legislation is needed.

Monopolies aren't illegal.

Abuse of them is, which is why Microsoft were convicted.

In law, a Google, Apple all are dominant in some market segment. They are all monopolies and by size (and size matters) Apple is as big as Google and Microsoft combined.

As for being Borg like, Microsoft users are far more heterogenous and individualist at what hardware and software they use. Apple is uniform, limitating, claustrophobic and proprietary Borg land.

You might want to ask Netscape and many other small Tech companies about Microsoft's bullying tactics.

What's more proprietary than Office file formats and the fact that all computer OEM's have to pay Microsoft a Windows licence fee whether they pre-install Windows or not?

Besides, you do realise that you can run Windows on a Mac, don't you?

 

[Infiniteloop]

"Monopoly is defined by size (market share). Being the biggest fish in the pond means you can control the market, bully, buy, sell, shut down etc. thus state legislation is needed."

Monopolies are't illegal.

Abuse of them is, which is why Microsoft were found guilty and convicted.

 

[Vladimir]

MS Office is not proprietary, you pay for it to install it by choice. You can choose from many other software options for the same thing.

Can you link to a reference where it says all computer manufacturers in the world pay Microsoft a fee without using it's software?

 

[Vladimir]

"Monopoly is defined by size (market share). Being the biggest fish in the pond means you can control the market, bully, buy, sell, shut down etc. thus state legislation is needed."

Monopolies are't illegal.

Abuse of them is, which is why Microsoft were found guilty and convicted.

They are all monopolies and they abuse the position, regardless if courts catch them legally. The discussion was who is a borg, Microsoft or Apple users. Everytime I used an Apple product I felt claustrophobic from the narrow limitation of what I was ALLOWED to do. Apple is very much tailored for the technologically challenged.

 

[Infiniteloop]

MS Office is not proprietary, you pay for it to install it by choice. You can choose from many other software options for the same thing.

Can you link to a reference where it says all computer manufacturers in the world pay Microsoft a fee without using it's software?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows

What is more creepy and Borg-like than this?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-spying-how-to-opt-out-of-microsofts-intrusive-terms-of-use-10432300.html

 

[CnoEvil]

If they are good at tennis, the are in all probability, Borg!

 

[Vladimir]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows

You can buy a PC with no Windows any time. Install Linux, Unix, whatever on it. Where can I buy an Apple machine without Apple OS so I install whatever OS I like without virtualization?

 

[Vladimir]

What is more creepy and Borg-like than this?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10...

That's spying. We are discussing consumer hive mind due to proprietary hardware and software.

 

[Infiniteloop]

What is more creepy and Borg-like than this?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10...

That's spying. We are discussing consumer hive mind due to proprietary hardware and software.

Oh, That's OK then.

Perhaps you might like this from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in

The European Commission, in its March 24, 2004 decision on Microsoft's business practices,[1] quotes, in paragraph 463, Microsoft general manager for C++ development Aaron Contorer as stating in a February 21, 1997 internal Microsoft memo drafted for Bill Gates: "The Windows API is so broad, so deep, and so functional that most ISVs would be crazy not to use it. And it is so deeply embedded in the source code of many Windows apps that there is a huge switching cost to using a different operating system instead. It is this switching cost that has given customers the patience to stick with Windows through all our mistakes, our buggy drivers, our high TCO, our lack of a sexy vision at times, and many other difficulties. [...] Customers constantly evaluate other desktop platforms, [but] it would be so much work to move over that they hope we just improve Windows rather than force them to move. In short, without this exclusive franchise called the Windows API, we would have been dead a long time ago. The Windows franchise is fueled by application development which is focused on our core APIs"

Microsoft's application software also exhibits lock-in through the use of proprietary file formats. Microsoft Outlook uses a proprietary, publicly undocumented datastore format. Present versions of Microsoft Word have introduced a new format MS-OOXML. This may make it easier for competitors to write documents compatible with Microsoft Office in the future by reducing lock-in. Microsoft released full descriptions of the file formats for earlier versions of Word, Excel and PowerPoint in February 2008.

 

[Vladimir]

 

[Andrewjvt]

Microsoft all the way for me
Why pay 3 times more for the same thing?

 

[chebby]

Microsoft all the way for me Why pay 3 times more for the same thing?

I recently 'configured' a Dell mini desktop PC as closely as possible to the nearest equivalently specified Mac Mini and there was about £25 difference (with delivery the Dell was actually more).