Why a recent upsurge in warm or smooth sounding kit?

[floyd droid]

You would if you heard a good one, as they are not the lush syrupy devices of days gone by.....and it's all too easy to get hung up on their impracticalities.

Pity this forum has no Rep facility because i would give you plenty for that Cno :clap:.

 

[Sabby]

What I don't 'get' is a recent push for tube amps when they are so impractical.

You would if you heard a good one, as they are not the lush syrupy devices of days gone by.....and it's all too easy to get hung up on their impracticalities.

I've heard soild state amps that sounded dull and lifeless and tube amps that sounded bright and lively so there is no generalisation that can be applied in describing the sound qualities of either type.

 

[plastic penguin]

What I don't 'get' is a recent push for tube amps when they are so impractical.

You would if you heard a good one, as they are not the lush syrupy devices of days gone by.....and it's all too easy to get hung up on their impracticalities.

But they are still not the most practical option: My amp gets played between 4-6 hours most days and it doesn't feel warm. Valve amps, by their nature, are able to cook eggs within 30 mins...

I've heard Arcams sound fairly dull and dreary on the end of Dynaudios, so that isn't aimed solely at tube amps.

 

[floyd droid]

Valve amps, by their nature, are able to cook eggs within 30 mins...

With all due respect PP thats a complete load of tosh and yet another generalisation. Bit like SS amps matey,some get warmer (hotter) than others.

 

[plastic penguin]

Valve amps, by their nature, are able to cook eggs within 30 mins...

With all due respect PP thats a complete load of tosh and yet another generalisation. Bit like SS amps matey,some get warmer (hotter) than others.

Every review I've read, here and other learned mags, have all recommended the amp should be placed at the top of the rack or given plenty of ventilation.

Edit - This isn't meant to be a SS v valve type thread, just interested in the amount of threads where posters have been asking for smoother or warmer speakers/amps/sources, including the likes of Nad, Arcam, Marantz etc etc rather than Cyrus, Leema, Rotel, the old first choice 'burn the seat of your pants' sound.

 

[floyd droid]

Every review I've read, here and other learned mags, have all recommended the amp should be placed at the top of the rack or given plenty of ventilation.

So from those nuggets of information you came to the conclusion that 'by their nature' you can cook an egg on any valve amp,lol .

Anyways im feeling chilly so im off to plumb my 845s into the gas .

Edit in ref to your edit PP. Mibbe peeps have had enough tch tch tch from metal domes and are just getting worn out by this 'attention grabbing' artifice that speaker manufacturers describe as detail. It aint, its splitch and screech, and my god in a lot of cases it melts your earwax.

 

[plastic penguin]

Every review I've read, here and other learned mags, have all recommended the amp should be placed at the top of the rack or given plenty of ventilation.

So from those nuggets of information you came to the conclusion that 'by their nature' you can cook an egg on any valve amp,lol .

Anyways im feeling chilly so im off to plumb my 845s into the gas .

There's never any smoke without...ahem...fire. :rockout:

 

[floyd droid]

PP. I run one of my valve amps on the bottom shelf of a rack,ok there is a fair bit of space above it to the next shelf but not a vast amount. Got to get bloody hot to melt glass aint it :roll:

 

[pauln]

Edit in ref to your edit PP. Mibbe peeps have had enough tch tch tch from metal domes and are just getting worn out by this 'attention grabbing' artifice that speaker manufacturers describe as detail. It aint, its splitch and screech, and my god in a lot of cases it melts your earwax.

Absolutely got it in one.

 

[shooter]

Edit in ref to your edit PP. Mibbe peeps have had enough tch tch tch from metal domes and are just getting worn out by this 'attention grabbing' artifice that speaker manufacturers describe as detail. It aint, its splitch and screech, and my god in a lot of cases it melts your earwax.

Absolutely got it in one.

And 2.

I'm on x-art ribbons now and will find it very hard to go back to domes, the ribbons are in anouther league, very natual and unforced sounding, sweet.

 

[ID.]

Maybe it's just a very minor trend seen on this forum and not necessarily representative of the wider worls. It only takes a handful of people/inquiries to make it seem that there has been an upsurge in warm sounding kit.

TBH, I still think a lot of hi fi is fighting the sterotype of vinly = good, warm natural, CD and modern kit= bad, unnatural, cold, clinical

so people often come on saying they want warm natural sounding kit, even though they may not know what sound they like.

Me? I think maybe my kit is a bit too lush and relaxed. If I upgraded I want lashings of energy and detail >)

 

[plastic penguin]

Every review I've read, here and other learned mags, have all recommended the amp should be placed at the top of the rack or given plenty of ventilation.

So from those nuggets of information you came to the conclusion that 'by their nature' you can cook an egg on any valve amp,lol .

Anyways im feeling chilly so im off to plumb my 845s into the gas .

Edit in ref to your edit PP. Mibbe peeps have had enough tch tch tch from metal domes and are just getting worn out by this 'attention grabbing' artifice that speaker manufacturers describe as detail. It aint, its splitch and screech, and my god in a lot of cases it melts your earwax.

With respect, if my speakers had sibilance or were "attention grabbing" I wouldn't of kept them since 2007... they would've been dumped long ago.

Perhaps, like most kit, depends what you hear them with.

 

[floyd droid]

Perhaps, like most kit, depends what you hear them with.

Well yes, what floats ones boat and all that stuff.