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whats the most expensive system you have listened to ?

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Some of it is crazy and I walk past with diminishing returns. So I wouldn’t actually stop to listen to something really expensive. Often it doesn’t so much sound really different. Not talking normal expensive level like dCS Bartok (better than Dave btw) but when you get naim statement amp crazy prices and all that rubbish. It’s stupid.
a lot of the expense is in the looks / build and not sound quality then.
 

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Yes, even in a dCS the alu costs thousands. In Dan d’agnostino the alum is over ten thousand. Its ostentatious HiFi for people who want to brag. DCS could make units much cheaper.
 

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Yes, even in a dCS the alu costs thousands. In Dan d’agnostino the alum is over ten thousand. Its ostentatious HiFi for people who want to brag. DCS could make units much cheaper.
dcs produced the vivaldi 1 a single box sacd player at i believe 55k.

how much do you think the actual cost of that unit was to make ?
 

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£5k Max. But it’s the ring dac tech and development you pay for, but is it worth it?. The case is the biggest cost contributor. the circuit components cost Relatively nothing. I went around the factory. They only produce low numbers - see my article. But whatever they Still sell to the snob hifi ist type that doesn’t consider diminishing returns . For everyday sensible audiophiles, even if you have a mill or more in the bank, crazy HiFi. the issue is whether this is worth it, and I still think people in audiophile circles think it is because it’s out of scope. the ‘I can’t touch’ factor. but everyone should rest assured this type of HiFi isn’t where the sensible brains and music lovers are. It’s like paying Gordon Ramsey 10k to do a dinner party because he could command those prices, even though it would be limited difference to a local italian. the Bartok was good, but do you get diminishing returns for the cash. Hugely. and by that I mean the perfomance per dollar goes down and down.
 

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£5k Max. But it’s the ring dac tech and development you pay for, but is it worth it?. The case is the biggest cost contributor. the circuit components cost Relatively nothing. I went around the factory. They only produce low numbers - see my article. But whatever they Still sell to the snob hifi ist type that doesn’t consider diminishing returns . For everyday sensible audiophiles, even if you have a mill or more in the bank, crazy HiFi. the issue is whether this is worth it, and I still think people in audiophile circles think it is because it’s out of scope. the ‘I can’t touch’ factor. but everyone should rest assured this type of HiFi isn’t where the sensible brains and music lovers are. It’s like paying Gordon Ramsey 10k to do a dinner party because he could command those prices, even though it would be limited difference to a local italian. the Bartok was good, but do you get diminishing returns for the cash. Hugely. and by that I mean the perfomance per dollar goes down and down.
thats an excellent reply - i really appreciate it.

if i had lots of money (i dont sadly) i like the look of the esoteric k1x player, but as you clearly have explained above, a lot of expense based on factors not related to sound quality.

post of the month !
 

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Maybe back in 2009, or thereabouts, I popped in to Loud and Clear in Edinburgh and having chatted a while, mainly the impact of the crash on the economy and disposable income for hifi at the time, the guy mentioned he'd just sold his third DCS Scarlatti CD player/DAC/clock/power supply setup of the year (about £60ks worth at the time). By chance, would I like to hear it - he knew I wasn't looking to buy as I hate wasting a dealer's time - and showed me through to one of the demo rooms. Wilson Audio speakers and I can't recall what amp offhand, but you're looking at about £100ks worth of hifi.

It sounded alright, nothing special, no whizz bang moment. In terms of enjoyment, I've had greater enjoyment from stereos costing far, far less. Looked nice right enough!
 

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Listening to high-end expensive systems can be a dangerous game. In the 90s, after years of not being able to afford a system I finally managed to cobble together some mostly secondhand kit - Pioneer A400, Marantz CD60SE, first generation Cambridge DacMagic and some Musical Fidelity MC4s (still use them). The jewel in the crown was a new Pink Triangle LPT with an RB250 and Nagaoka Stilton TS11 cartridge. I thought my system sounded the dog's wotsits. One day a mate invited me round to listen to his new system - a Nottingham Analogue turntable, a hefty valve amp (can't remember what) that precluded the need to wear anything other than vest and pants and a pair of Tannoy Westminster speakers that sat there like a couple of wardrobes. My mate put on a couple of simple Scott Walker albums and my jaw hit the floor. I was stunned, I had never heard such a glorious sound. I went home, tried to listen to my system but by comparison it sounded like a transistor radio. Took me a month before I could listen again.
 

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Ok don t know the exact details ok but this is back late 70s ok . Linn sondek ittok top notch cartridge at that time ? Niam amps power plus ? Quad speakers . In a hi fi shop demo playing led zep 3 . Requested tulls broadsword album . Err hang on so powerfull so real awsome simply great !!! Settled for linn sondek .linn bassic arm shure 75 cartridge . Niam nait amp linn basic speakers .
Hey. Did me fine.!
 

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