V-MODA M-100 headphone - my review and pictures

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dalethorn

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I'm working on a script for a video comparing mostly the M100 and DT770LE, and may include the Momentum and ATH ESW11 or 9a in that too. The main complaints I've read about the M100 where the DT770 came out well ahead were things that (to my investigation) aren't fidelity features exactly. The cavernous sound of the un-EQ'd DT770 appears to be mainly a feature of the earcup design, and I recall the DT1350's substantially hollow sound as well - both sets I bought in 2011 and 2012. That cavernous sound, to whatever extent it's controlled or dampened by amps or other things, adds to the sense of space or soundstage. It's very pleasant when presented properly, but it does seem artificial to me, like a well-done simulated stereo or other mono enhancement. Check out the Rolling Stones' Satisfaction on the late CD's or downloads from HDTracks - a perfect implementation of mono enhancement without phony stereo effects. I never was greatly impressed by the Senn 800's soundstage for example. The M100's earcup fit is very snug and I get the idea (without opening it up) that they didn't plan to have extra space in those earcups for the sound to bounce around in, so it sounds very different compared to the DT770, like the extra space just disappeared. Listened to on its own, it sounds fine to me.

The other major feature of the DT770 that attracts its fans is the treble detail, and comparing to the M100, the M100 sounds somewhat dull or lacking in life, or sparkle etc. by comparison. But the DT770 has a very significant peak in the treble that (to my ears) makes a lot of music tracks sound like something is frying in a skillet in the background. There's a lot, a whole lot of excess high frequency energy being produced there. Using the -4 db correction at 7 khz (and -2 at 5 and 10k) I configured in Foobar, the DT770 sounds more normal, but even then the frying-pan sound is apparent in a lot of music, mostly pop and techno, albeit at lower levels. Playing the M100 on its own, the treble is OK, and in fact when you look at headphones like the Sennheiser Momentum, their upper treble is way recessed compared to the DT770.
 
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Hehe you're keeping me on my toes, I almost didn't notice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr0udr5r8Lw&list=FLA8qURgNEpssbfT4OGiN97Q&index=66

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTfRLxHY6Tk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVB9yByFTHg

A couple or three more interesting ones from Xilent will give your cans a workout!
 
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Not getting any skillet noise here, using an Arcam Alpha 3 Amp, and just passing 200 hours :dance:
 

dalethorn

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Finguz said:
Not getting any skillet noise here, using an Arcam Alpha 3 Amp, and just passing 200 hours :dance:

It doesn't happen on all tracks for me, just some of the electronica with intense highs, and some pop music. It might also be very confusing to readers here to see this discussion of the DT770 in the M100 topic.
 

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Finguz said:
Not getting any skillet noise here, using an Arcam Alpha 3 Amp, and just passing 200 hours :dance:
I don't notice this either. I do think they are much better suited for home use, but I found them to behave very well directly out of my Galaxy phone as well as the iPhone. They sound better amplified of course, like everything. It's one of only a few that sounds brilliant out of the M-DAC, although the wife still prefers them on the rPAC. The Fostex HP-A3 brings out the wrong parts of the upper ranges and makes them sound a little thin at times, but still mostly a highly enjoyable combo.

I'm going to give the M-100's another go today... time to break out the EQ.
 

dalethorn

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quadpatch said:
....I do think they are much better suited for home use, but....

This is getting more confusing in this M100 thread when the unspecified "they" refers to a different headphone.

quadpatch said:
I'm going to give the M-100's another go today... time to break out the EQ.

For better or worse, I'm no longer able to compare the M100 and DT770 fairly (other than pure speculation), because the sparkly detailed sound of the DT770-32 is making the M100 sound uninteresting. Is this good or bad? I dunno. All I can say for sure is, I'm glad I don't get paid to do this.
 

dalethorn

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Downloaded the Accudio by GoldenEars app for i-devices. They don't have settings for everything, and some of their settings are really questionable. The B&W P5 setting kills the bass and makes the P5 shrill - I don't get that at all. But it's a professional EQ app, as witness the perfect job it does with the DT770-32LE. So I tried the P5 setting for the M100, and being slightly bright I pulled the top slider down 2 notches and the 2nd slider one notch: Nirvana! If you'd like to hear some real bass detail with the M100 try this app and setting and West End Girls by Pet Shop Boys - yummy!
 

dalethorn

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When I log in now, the header says "You are not allowed to post new content in the forum."

EDIT: And now it's back to normal. Computers, huh?
 

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