This probably changes from day to day, but my thoughts today as I was perusing the audio section of Yodobashi Camera I thought I'd like to hear a Luxman DA-200 doing DAC and pre-amp duties into some active speakers.
BenLaw said:I'm really struggling to answer this. There is no price comparable pair of speakers I would rather have - even for those who don't like them, I think it would generally have to be admitted that ATC is the pinnacle of their particular direction in hifi. I guess I could redistribute finances to give a greater proportion to speakers, but I think I'd still want to stick with ATC. I could probably find some alternative electronics, tho for me they would probably be different rather than substantially better. I would consider getting active speakers but again would struggle with your rule of having to change manufacturerMaybe some Event Opals, but I haven't heard them. Also not heard electrostatics, so who knows?
You are not allowed to use your ATCs or they will be confiscated!
Have you heard Focal, which are neutral, detailed, controlled and exciting....you could swap for the Focal 836 VW (or PMC Twenty .23/.24) with maybe some Densen or Bel Canto Pre/power amps.
Job Done!
tino said:
For the purpose of this exercise, "yer speakers 'av been nicked mate", and there are no more available...now what to do.
Very briefly, but a fair while ago and not long enough to talk about it with real authority.......Wishtree's your man as he owned one...and then sold it (I couldn't talk him out of it)!iceman16 said:Hi Cno,
Have you heard the Pathos Inpol? I'm quite interested..
From what I remember, it didn't have quite the bass punch and excitement of the 35i, but had a slightly more euphonious/richer mid range......lovely amp that I could easily live with.
Are you tempted?
bigmoose said:
No upgrading to the same brand allowed (and you can't spend more than your system costs new)......that's why it's tough!
I'd go for a Pathos Logos, Sugden Masterclass PDT-4F CDP and some Audio Note AN-J speakers.
Never heard the combo, but should imagine it would be quite tasty!
Also, An Electrocompaniet pre/power with the same CDP and speakers would be rather appealing, although I suppose that would be over budget.
Cheers
Mac
Never heard the combo, but should imagine it would be quite tasty!
Also, An Electrocompaniet pre/power with the same CDP and speakers would be rather appealing, although I suppose that would be over budget.
Cheers
Mac
Macspur said:
We have very similar taste.
Your second option breaks the rules, and your first option is borderline, as you are using Sugden (though in a different capacity). :shifty:
CnoEvil said:iceman16 said:Hi Cno,
Have you heard the Pathos Inpol? I'm quite interested..
Very briefly, but a fair while ago and not long enough to talk about it with real authority.......Wishtree's your man as he owned one...and then sold it (I couldn't talk him out of it)! From what I remember, it didn't have quite the bass punch and excitement of the 35i, but had a slightly more euphonious/richer mid range......lovely amp that I could easily live with. Are you tempted?
Hi Cno,
There are 3 amps in my shortlist..
Pathos Inpol
Plinius Hiato
Gamut Di150
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I wouldn't want to change my speakers as I love them but, if forced, I'd probably go for Mission MX4s as they shouldn't be too dramatically different sounding to my Wharfedales. I'd quite happily have a Marantz PM6004 amplifier, and for the CD player I'd probably opt for an Audiolab 8200CD.
I think I'd miss the organic quality of my system though. I can't imagine the Audiolab/Marantz/Mission set-up having quite the same natural and involving sound and, having had those qualities, I would certainly miss them. I'd also find the Missions difficult aesthetically after the Wharfedales.
I think I'd miss the organic quality of my system though. I can't imagine the Audiolab/Marantz/Mission set-up having quite the same natural and involving sound and, having had those qualities, I would certainly miss them. I'd also find the Missions difficult aesthetically after the Wharfedales.
CnoEvil said:BenLaw said:I'm really struggling to answer this. There is no price comparable pair of speakers I would rather have - even for those who don't like them, I think it would generally have to be admitted that ATC is the pinnacle of their particular direction in hifi. I guess I could redistribute finances to give a greater proportion to speakers, but I think I'd still want to stick with ATC. I could probably find some alternative electronics, tho for me they would probably be different rather than substantially better. I would consider getting active speakers but again would struggle with your rule of having to change manufacturer
You are not allowed to use your ATCs or they will be confiscated!
Have you heard Focal, which are neutral, detailed, controlled and exciting....you could swap for the Focal 836 VW (or PMC Twenty .23/.24) with maybe some Densen or Bel Canto Pre/power amps.
Job Done!
I didn't think you'd approve of my answer! I've heard Focal Chorus 806v and was impressed, tho I think for long listening I would start to find them fatiguing. Obviously these are cheaper than something comparable to my 40s, but I still suspect it's not a swsp I'd want to make.
I've not heard PMC twenties but did hear fact 8s, which cost substantially more than the 40s, and they left me cold. I suspect any differences between the models would not bridge the gap that IMO exists. I've also just looked at some images of the drivers and in engineering terms they bear little comparison with ATC. I've not really been listening to alternatives in recent times, which is why I'd have to guess at something I've not heard before. I'd love to hear some Martin Logan electrostats.
I haven't heard either of the brands of electronics you suggest. I hear good things about bel canto and Rick has suggested I listen to Densen. My electronics have to tread a fine line as I like a lot of detail, speed and integration but without becoming too clinical or attacking. Primare treads the line well
Your thread has generated some interesting responses but for me it is difficult as it is rather predicated on one *not* owning one's favoured system or there being a very close second. Happily for me, based on what I've heard, that just isn't the case
That's not to say there isn't price-comparable kit our there that I haven't yet heard which I might prefer, but I'm not planning to do a lot of auditioning in the next few years Tricky one, probably something like this:
Monitor Audio Shadow or Apex
Samsung Plasma
Yamaha Amp
Cambridge Audio 751 Blu ray player or the £1000 Oppo
Monitor Audio Shadow or Apex
Samsung Plasma
Yamaha Amp
Cambridge Audio 751 Blu ray player or the £1000 Oppo
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If we start including the AV side of things I'd find it even more difficult. I've got a Sony KDL37EX403 TV and, although it was relatively affordable, I'd struggle to replace it with any other make of TV with any enthusiasm. I just love the usability of Sony's sets and, properly set up, they perform as well as anything and better than most in my experience. If absolutely forced I think I'd go for an equivalent Panasonic, and likewise with my Sony Blu-ray player and DVD/HDD recorder.
gel said:
Hmmm, the Yamaha would sound quite different. It's quite hard to change from a sound you like.
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