The future of vinyl

[Frank Harvey]

Great, I might start posting again

 

[tonky]

It sounds great on the system I have. I regret selling off my LPs etc many years ago - I was originally "suckered" in willingly - nobody forced me. I used to play my cds through a mission cyrus 2 which was too thin sounding for me to enjoy the music. The marantz cd player didn't sound any better than my rega planar 2 (to my ears). - Anyway - that was then - and now I am much more enamoured with digital storage and sound quality. - I shall continue to "endure" it willingly. - vinyl has a niche market at all price points i suppose. - I know how much pleasure my first "proper" system gave me. Though my next door neighbours weren't so sure

tonky - enduring well!

 

[MrReaper182]

I see the benefit to all of the popular formats, I see no point in dissing one over the other. They each have a place IMO.

I hated rewinding cassettes. I hated how they sounded. The day I bought my first CDP I was extatic and eventually trashed all my tape players. The only thing I liked about them was the option to pirate music and make mix tapes for listening on the go with my walkman. I was also very very happy when I got a CD-R drive on my PC and my first discman. And when torrents became popular I dropped everything and just hoarded FLACs for free. I had a vinyl phase over 10 years ago because I was heavily into electronic music, and that genre was hot for buying new vinyl and owning good TTs. When I lowered my interest in electronica, I sold my vinyl collection and gear. When MOG came out, followed by other streaming services, including Youtube, I eventually dropped keeping any form of copy of music, now I just subscribe to Tidal. I can have any music I want in any resolution for free, but I prefer the convenience and lack of clutter by just paying a streaming subscription.

For me past media formats have absolutely no room in my life. I only went step back with vinyl since I never experienced it as a kid, so it looked cool, for a while. I'll continue to follow the most convenient way of enjoying music. I'm not drawn by the idea that I should save money to buy music in physical format simply because it is less instantly gratifying. I spent plenty of money on CDs, cassettes and LPs, on a very limited budget as an adolescent and student, you can imagine, and I feel zero appeal to go back to that ritual. If I don't find some music enjoyable, I don't need starvation to make it more appealing to me, I just don't listen to it. I move on searching for new music that will interest me without a crutch. I will never enjoy music like I did when I was 16, and I've come to peace with that.

Get the right cassette deck and cassettes can sound great. Some people do comparisons between good cassette decks and bad one's one youbube and you can hear the difference (even with youtube's compressed sound). Those really good cassette decks sound awesome.

 

[Vladimir]

Get the right cassette deck and cassettes can sound great. Some people do comparisons between good cassette decks and bad one's one youbube and you can hear the difference (even with youtube's compressed sound). Those really good cassette decks sound awesome.

I completely agree. Good tape on a decent three-headed deck, with proper calibration sound is excellent. I haven't heard a Nakamichi Dragon, but the Denon and Sony I did hear were superb. If you are into that sort of thing, you wont suffer from bad sound.

I have great respect for tape. It's role in high quality sound storage is immense and historic. I lust for Revox and Ampeg no different than vinyl fans lust over Micro Seiki. Vinyl is meerly a distribution format and not a sound storage and production solution like tape. Today still in music production tape is used to give music a softer edge, either by passing it through R2Rs or the more common digital tape effect in DAWs.

I'm sure some of you read those articles about magnetic tape comeback in information storage.

 

[The_Lhc]

Comeback? Tape backup never went away. Disk backup is all very well but you can't send a 40PB data domain array to offsite storage in the back of a van and I've yet to see a site to site deduplication process that actually works as advertised. Tape is still king.

 

[Vladimir]

Comeback? Tape backup never went away. Disk backup is all very well but you can't send a 40PB data domain array to offsite storage in the back of a van and I've yet to see a site to site deduplication process that actually works as advertised. Tape is still king.

Right on!

I meant comeback in the form of common use storage format. We shall see if it happens or not. I would certanly prefer buying a DAT sized 200TB tape over bunch of size and energy inefficient HDDs in RAID configuration.

 

[chebby]

Comeback? Tape backup never went away. Disk backup is all very well but you can't send a 40PB data domain array to offsite storage in the back of a van and I've yet to see a site to site deduplication process that actually works as advertised. Tape is still king.

At your namesake.

 

[matthewpiano]

In the early and mid 1980s Decca made terrific digital recordings of the Orchestre Symphonique de Montréal under Charles Dutoit. They recorded the Planets in 1986, released in 1987.

http://www.amazon.com/Holst-The-Planets-Gustav/dp/B0000041S7/ref=pd_bxgy_15_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1TWCKSSN72BEQ33DTMK4

I'm not the only one who really likes this recording.

http://www.talkclassical.com/5739-best-recording-planets.html

It's available on Spotify and so is the Von Karajan. IMHO the Decca sound from 1987 is quite a bit better than the DG from 1981. The comparison is a bit difficult, because the DG seems to have been remastered at a much louder level.

Another really good one, from 2003, is Colin Davis with the London Symphony Orchestra.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Holst-Planets-Gustav/dp/B000063DQJ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1453731213&sr=8-2&keywords=Holst+Planets+LSO

I've had the Dutoit since it was released in 1987 and I've never been moved to buy another version. It won the Gramophone Engineering award when it came out and it is a very fine recording indeed which is matched by the playing.

Chris

My favourite recording of The Planets is the Adrian Boult one on EMI. Wonderful playing and, despite its age, outstanding recording quality too.

 

[keeper of the quays]

I think the future of vinyl is in the past in a lot of respects..as I'm getting older I'm finding things more difficult to comprehend and records were something that gave me some happiness.i clearly remember listening to my first classical record and being very impressed..'classics club record William tell overture' I was ten years old! There's a tangibility in a record, the sleeve.the weight of it..looks like something worthwhile..i have my mums old records..unplayable mostly but...still important as a path to remember..so us dinosaurs carry on cherishing vinyl..perhaps waiting for a new dawn? It won't happen, world today is full of clever side with their downloads and cloud storage? I have shelves..lol. But I'm a fan of cds too...but a silver plastic disc doesn't have any sentimental value to me..so I shall carry on collecting records..i was brought up on them..my friend has some quad electrostatic speakers and he played Mahler 2 conducted by Bernstein and my mates cart is a low output denon..thru a step up transformer and I must say it was a glory! The dynamics were breathtaking..vinyl still rocks..in this old codgers opinion ☺