The Editors

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Ok, thank you.

Can I ask you a question pls - everybody here seems to be an 'Editor'. In fact, this is the only magazine I have come across where everybody is an editor.

With all these 'Editors', there are still so many errors in your magazine, so someone is not doing their editing properly. I pointed out two.

 

[f1only]

I work in the print industry as a print finisher & you will always find mistakes, hardly anyone proof reads any more properly, we do loads of re-prints because clients just take it for granted things are correct when going to press. They have deadlines to meet. this is due to time constraints as everyone wants it now.

 

[Anonymous]

That is not right. These proof-readers are paid to do a job. It is their job to proof-read, or they should be sacked.

There are mistakes in every issue. That is every issue.

WHF has an international circulation - is this not highly embarrasing?

 

[John Duncan]

Maybe you could publish a magazine and see if you can do it better?

Actually, while you're at it, can you let me know what's wrong with this website, we're a bit short on the QA front at the moment.

 

[f1only]

SamsonD:

That is not right. These proof-readers are paid to do a job. It is their job to proof-read, or they should be sacked.

There are mistakes in every issue. That is every issue.

WHF has an international circulation - is this not highly embarrasing?

This should be a new thread in the About the mag forum SamsonD as it has nothing to do with the op.

Regards to all... Paul

 

[Andrew Everard]

Moved, as suggested.

 

[f1only]

Thanks gd idea i think Andrew

Regards ..paul

 

[Andrew Everard]

No, deleting SamsonD's second - or is it third? - swipe of the evening would have been a good idea; this is a compromise...

 

[professorhat]

SamsonD:That is not right. These proof-readers are paid to do a job. It is their job to proof-read, or they should be sacked.

An editor does quite a lot more than proof reading. In fact, proof reading is probably quite low on the list (if on the list at all) from what I remember of my Dad's responsibilities as editor of a journal.

 

[Andrew Everard]

Indeed: I haven't proof-read a page of the magazine for ages now, as this place seems to occupy my working time, and most of the rest of my life too!

Not everyone is an Editor around here - it's just that you get rather more of the senior magazine staff engaging with the readership on these forums than I gather you do on some other sites.

And we are down a sub-editor on the magazine at the moment, the previous incumbent having gone off to be production editor of FourFourTwo - which I guess is keeping him a bit busy ATM...

 

[John Duncan]

professorhat:proof reading is probably quite low on the list

Or in the case of the Daily Mail, reading full stop?

 

[Andy Clough]

Two errors in an entire magazine is hardly a hanging offence IMHO. Yes, the pages are proof read by at least two senior people on the team, and as Andrew points out we're currently one member of staff down. Oh, and by the way, not everyone on the team is an editor!

And SamsonD: "WHF has an international circulation - is this not highly embarrasing?" Is that embarrasing or embarrassing?

 

[ESP2009]

Whilst it is great fun to spot errors made by others, particularly those who are high profile, may I remind those who cast the stones that to err is human and to get it perfect is to arguably tread on the territory of the divine. There are those who purposely introduce a small error into their work to remind themselves, and the rest of us, that we have no right to aspire to divinity.

A couple of small mistakes in a magazine are at most cause for a small smirk because you have spotted them. Based on what I see on a day to day basis, either on the web or at work, the standards of the WHF are pretty darned high in comparison with the written word to be encountered wherever we look.

 

[John Duncan]

In the Middle East, carpet weavers add tiny imperfections into their carpets because the only thing that can be perfect is God himself.

Or, to put it another way - "imperfection is cool" (thankfully).

 

[Ravey Gravey Davy]

JohnDuncan:In the Middle East, carpet weavers add tiny imperfections into their carpets because the only thing that can be perfect is God himself.

Who spun you that yarn?

 

[John Duncan]

Ravey Gravey Davy:
JohnDuncan:In the Middle East, carpet weavers add tiny imperfections into their carpets because the only thing that can be perfect is God himself.

Who spun you that yarn?

My mother, when I asked her why all the girls called me a munter.

 

[carter]

thats whats great about not being able to spell,i have no idea if the magazine has mistakes or not but even if i could i wouldnt care ive got other thing to worry about like paying my bills ,feeding my kids.

im pretty happy that for my £4 odd a month i get a magazine to read and a website to visit that keeps me pretty entertained so i can forgive a couple of errors hear and there.

 

[Nohairnick]

nodnarb4444:

thats whats great about not being able to spell,i have no idea if the magazine has mistakes or not but even if i could i wouldnt care ive got other thing to worry about like paying my bills ,feeding my kids.

im pretty happy that for my £4 odd a month i get a magazine to read and a website to visit that keeps me pretty entertained so i can forgive a couple of errors hear and there.

here here

 

[f1only]

Mmmm strange there seems to be no reply! still no worries im happy with the magazine i buy from Smiths with or without spilling oops sorry spelling errors as a proir post said to err is human. Having worked in the print industry for the last ooh 20ish or so years i would say that a lot of clients just let it go rather than spending out sometimes 10's of thousands £'s for a reprint especially when working to as i said earlier a deadline for the sake of something that reads perfectly well.It happens where i work more than once a week, most of the clients just prefer it to look good ( understandably ), without it being scummed up, folded badly, & various other misshaps within a binding, most dont seem to proof read as it is done using a spell checker & sent digitally then straight to plates for printing.

Anyway enough said about the print industry.

Love the Mag, keep up the good work with it & the website.

Regards to all ...Paul

 

[The_Lhc]

f1only:Mmmm strange there seems to be no reply! still no worries im happy with the magazine i buy from Smiths with or without spilling oops sorry spelling errors as a proir post said to err is human. Having worked in the print industry for the last ooh 20ish or so years

But not as a proof reader one would assume?

 

[f1only]

No i am a print finisher & mainly work on folding machine, guillotine & stitching line.

 

[The_Lhc]

f1only:
No i am a print finisher & mainly work on folding machine, guillotine & stitching line.

Ah.

Did you work in a glass house?

 

[f1only]

nope

 

[Anonymous]

JohnDuncan:Maybe you could publish a magazine and see if you can do it better?

Actually, while you're at it, can you let me know what's wrong with this website, we're a bit short on the QA front at the moment.

Yes, I could do a better job. You are arrogant, learn to accept mistakes being made and buck up!

HCC has no mistakes, while WHF has mistakes in every issue.

 

[Andy Clough]

Let's not get personal, and please don't make accusations against someone you don't know. John is anything but arrogant, and I do know, because I work with him. (And BTW, he's responsible for the technical side of the website, not the magazine).